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tpkatl
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2013-May-29 8:52 am
How meaningful can this actually be?Perhaps any *state* law enforcement will have to get a warrant, but in reality, the serious investigation in this country tends to be at the federal level.
And this law has no jurisdiction on federal investigations. So the way I read it, the Texas Rangers will have to get a warrant to read my email, but the FBI, DEA, CIA, NSA, etc., won't.
What good will that do? Seems like this is a populist law that will accomplish basically nothing. | |
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Re: How meaningful can this actually be?the same sort of nonsense is going on in NYState regarding GMO product labeling. what good is a State making such a law when food production and distribution is country wide. it's just politicians wasting their time on unenforceable laws to gain popular support and more votes to perpetuate this stupidity. | |
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Re: How meaningful can this actually be?In the immortal words of Governor Rick Perry: "Oops..."
It sure looks good on the roll call and on paper, till one realizes it accomplishes very little until the federal government takes on similar measures. | |
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GMO labeling is a dumb idea to begin with though. It creates FUD akin to when SF wanted to force phone manufacturers to list radiation output. It's a completely useless figure that serves no benefit for health and well being, and forces phone manufacturers to needlessly add to the cost of the device in order to reach the same sales figures that they would have without that labeling. In the end, all it does is put further burden on the economy with no benefit. GMO labeling would have the same effect. In fact, fighting GMO based foods in general is a bad idea, as the originator of the anti-GMO movement found out for himself: » www.slate.com/blogs/futu ··· ong.html | |
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Liberty
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2013-May-29 4:25 pm
Re: How meaningful can this actually be?said by Rakeesh:GMO labeling is a dumb idea to begin with It's a completely useless In the end, all it does is put further burden I suggest your comment may be true for you but not for many others. Europe has labeling rules in place for over 8 years and food processors are doing just fine What is wrong with proper identification of ingredients? If there is nothing wrong with GMO ingredients, why be concerned if I want to know what I am consuming? | |
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NYR 56
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2013-May-29 8:02 pm
Re: How meaningful can this actually be?said by Liberty:What is wrong with proper identification of ingredients? If there is nothing wrong with GMO ingredients, why be concerned if I want to know what I am consuming? The problem is that people spread FUD about GMO foods and their popularity will plummet if they are labeled. His analogy of the cell phone radiation law is perfect - if there is no significant difference in terms of the final product and our health, it is unnecessary to be on the package. GMOs solve many problems, and I, for one, certainly do not want them to be eliminated because some hipster refuses to eat anything but "organic" produce based on assumptions. | |
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Liberty
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2013-May-29 8:11 pm
Re: How meaningful can this actually be?"I, for one, certainly do not want them to be eliminated because some hipster refuses to eat anything but "organic" produce based on assumptions" Non GMOs will be more expensive so all the Walmart types will keep your preference alive and well. So no worries there
Your option eliminates my option, my option has not affect on yours - can't we play nice and share? | |
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Rekeesh, it's likely he was paid to change his opinion - which is common when you deal with special interests, politicians, and lobbists. the GMO lobby outspends the reform/label lobby 8:1. GMO product labeling is not only about potential health concerns, it's also about sustainability. creating patented plant versions that don't provide viable seeds and using petroleum based chemicals to get your crops out and put the farming environment at risk is not a sustainable form of agriculture. people deserve the right to support whatever method of food production they believe is best, and labeling give them that right to choose with their wallets. the GMO lobby and lawyers should all be fired - let them pore that money into marketing these GMO products as better for the consumer, if they are so afraid of labeling it as such. | |
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It's a nudge to our dysfunctional federal government. There's a reason Texas is the fastest growing state in the nation. | |
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2013-May-29 11:25 am
Re: How meaningful can this actually be?This isn't exactly one of the reasons. Anyone with half a brain knows that local law enforcement doesn't read people's emails because frankly they just don't have the time and resources to waste on that.
There are many things going for Texas (as a native Texan, i'm a bit biased though), but this bill is just easy legislation for politicians to reference for future political campaigns. | |
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The cost of living is the main reason. If someone can afford a 2bdrm apartment in Jersey they could buy a large house in Texas | |
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Anon
2013-May-30 1:28 pm
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Lets say that a vaccine was made available tomorrow which prevented colon and pancreatic cancer. Would you pooh pooh it because it wouldn't defend against all other cancer types? Or, would you understand it as a step in the right direction, and gladly avail yourself of the benefits the vaccine offers? Perfection is incremental. | |
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Anon
2013-May-29 10:00 am
Read my lips- You have NO PRIVACYAnother feel good piece of legislation activity that is worthless. Who is going to stop "authorities" from accessing desired information. Certainly not the SCOTUS, Congress or the President-we've seen how effective they are. Come on get real they(Federal, state and local) just seize the desired data THEN get a warrant (for crowd control purposes only) and/or detain the owner with trumped up allegations while they obtain said data if they even acknowledge they obtained it. Moral of the story- do not send ANYTHING via email that you wouldn't want to see brought up in court. | |
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kevinds
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2013-May-29 11:20 am
Re: Read my lips- You have NO PRIVACYDoes this apply only if the email server is in Texas, or is it for the resident of Texas, regardless of where said emails are actually located | |
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Reyr
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2013-May-29 11:02 am
Governor of TexasGovernor of Austin? Since when is Austin a state? | |
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ndwbr
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2013-May-29 11:42 am
Re: Governor of TexasTrue email privacy: when you encrypt your email at rest, exchange public keys with someone, and then encrypt what you send to them. Only their private key can decrypt the email and only your private key can decrypt theirs. There are vendors starting to deliver this capability e.g. Penango (» www.penango.com/) | |
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said by Reyr:Since when is Austin a state? Well anyone that has lived there knows that Austin isn't part of Texas except in a technical geographic sense
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cb14
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2013-May-29 11:33 pm
Re: Governor of TexasTrue. Austin is different. Same here, South Florida is not Florida. | |
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Well Texas is a whole other county isn't it? | |
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Anon
2013-May-29 12:12 pm
Yes, Yes, yes...A political point that doesn't accomplish much? Yes.
The best they can do since the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in the Arizona case that no state law can trump federal law? Yes.
The federal government usurping way too much power of late, basically ignoring the spirit of the Tenth Amendment? YES! | |
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Anon
2013-May-29 11:16 pm
Online PrivacyThe only way to really protect our online privacy is to use a service where the servers aren't governed by US laws. I've been using one for emails and web surfing that's based in Switzerland. Check it out at forhisglory@pvivacyabroad.com. | |
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