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I think people should stop purchasing services without reading the terms first... Purchase a service, sign a contract and not know the companies policies?
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| Re: T-Mobile said by Tzale  :I don't even use text messages. I think people should stop purchasing services without reading the terms first... Purchase a service, sign a contract and not know the companies policies? So in the TM contract is states that you cannot opt out of text message and any messages received, no matter the reason, will be charged? I think people should _think_ before they post crap they know nothing about.
Again, the suit is that TM won't allow customers to stop the receipt of text messages and TM then charges for them. It's extortion. | |
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| Re: T-Mobile said by tcope :said by Tzale :I don't even use text messages. I think people should stop purchasing services without reading the terms first... Purchase a service, sign a contract and not know the companies policies? So in the TM contract is states that you cannot opt out of text message and any messages received, no matter the reason, will be charged? I think people should _think_ before they post crap they know nothing about. Again, the suit is that TM won't allow customers to stop the receipt of text messages and TM then charges for them. It's extortion. You should have asked T-Mobile prior to signing the contract. End of story.
I'm sick of people whining about things they DON'T KNOW SHIT about!
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| said by battleop :Uhm. Ok if you don't like the policy then don't buy their service. It's not like they are the only cell phone provider out there. Just happens to be a little something called a contract. TM won't allow people to break it without a fine. Again, customers were not told they would be getting spam text messages and they were not told that they could not stop this "service" they never asked for. But to add to that, TM simply _won't_ turn off the service those people don't want. | |
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| Re: T-Mobile said by battleop :So they hand you a contract but they cover up every thing but the signature line so you can't read it until after you have signed it? Yup. Read my post... it points out that the contract says nothing about having to be charged for text messages you did not want nor not being able to have TM stop the abuse and charges of spam text messages. I'm not sure how much more clear I can be about the _contract saying NOTHING about this issue_. I hate to be abrasive in my posts but I can't see them as being anything but very clear. | |
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| You come out talking about not signing a contract if you do not want certain restriction of the service which may or may not be stated in the contract. Let me ask you, have you ever read every word of every contract, lease, agreement, procedure, tos that you have come across. If you have then please continue talking out of your *ss as you just lied to yourself. Next time give some thought to your comment instead of just saying.. don't like don't buy it. There are times when one has to make stand as all alternates to not buying are just as bad as buying it.
As for the suit, I have a personal and business contract with tmobile and on my personal account i have received on average 20-30 txt message from unknown people costing me 10-15 dollars additional a month. I had to get a basic txt addon for $5 in the end to deal with as I have no choice to stop tmobile from sending me messages. I am glad people are starting to fight the 4 services (no competition providers) we have.
In Korea, I was able to get a very decent service with no stupid strings attached. Same in Japan while staying in both countries for short while. Can't we get some decent providers here.. oh wait I forget we are about free market (Market where everyone has to be greedy in order to create real competition) | |
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| Re: T-Mobile said by Tzale :said by tcope :said by battleop :Uhm. Ok if you don't like the policy then don't buy their service. It's not like they are the only cell phone provider out there. Just happens to be a little something called a contract. TM won't allow people to break it without a fine. Again, customers were not told they would be getting spam text messages and they were not told that they could not stop this "service" they never asked for. But to add to that, TM simply _won't_ turn off the service those people don't want. They should have picked a service that allowed them to turn off that feature... They could have researched this better prior to locking into the contract. Their fault.. Sorry... And usually I don't side with big corporations, but this time... Sorry. So your first thought was that they should have read the contract. When your error was pointed out you stated that they should go to another provider. When again your error was pointed out your response now is that customers should have some how thought of the idea that this odd situation could happen at some point and then searched for an answer (again, to a problem that did not yet exist). {inappropriate remark removed and apology inserted} . About the stupidest things I've ever seen posted.
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Ron Paul - No Bailout Conservative
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| Re: T-Mobile said by tcope :So your first thought was that they should have read the contract. When your error was pointed out you stated that they should go to another provider. When again your error was pointed out your response now is that customers should have some how thought of the idea that this odd situation could happen at some point and then searched for an answer (again, to a problem that did not yet exist). Does your head come out of your butt at any time? About the stupidest things I've ever seen posted. 'course, you could side step the real issue again and change your reasoning. I've never changed my views.. Simple.. Read the contract, ask whatever questions you have and make a decision... You're the one with serious problems...
You didn't prove me wrong at all.. Your posts make no sense.
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Again, you can read a fucking contract all day long, but if the terms aren't there, and are added in the future, no matter how ridiculous (how about double billing per month...triple billing...) you're just ducky about giving it all because you "signed a contract"??
You sir, are an idiot, and if your "reasoning" is as elementary as "you signed a contract", well I'd hate to see what you're like in the workplace, or some other stressful situation. God bless the people around you. (rolls eyes) | |
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Ron Paul - No Bailout Conservative
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| Re: T-Mobile said by satellite68 :(pfffffffffffpffffffffffffttttttttttttt) Again, you can read a fucking contract all day long, but if the terms aren't there, and are added in the future, no matter how ridiculous (how about double billing per month...triple billing...) you're just ducky about giving it all because you "signed a contract"?? You sir, are an idiot, and if your "reasoning" is as elementary as "you signed a contract", well I'd hate to see what you're like in the workplace, or some other stressful situation. God bless the people around you. (rolls eyes) The education system in Kentucky must be as bad as I heard..  If you can't use some simple logic and ask ALL questions prior to entering into a contract / business agreement, then you shouldn't be doing business... It might not be T-Mobile's best move to be doing this, but they are not doing anything illegal. If they told people they could turn off the service or cancel their contracts if they were spammed, prior to signing of the contract, then they would be wrong for denying them. Otherwise, fair game.
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| You sound like you are good with contracts, fast path me to the part that states text messaging can't be disabled...
»www.t-mobile.com/Templates/Popup···int=true
Not saying it is or isn't there, just didn't find it quickly.
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| Re: T-Mobile said by Q97531 :
You sound like you are good with contracts, fast path me to the part that states text messaging can't be disabled... That would require some actual knowledge about the subject. I don't think that is going to happen.
It's a clear case of TM knowingly setting up a system in which their customers accrue charges for a service they did not ask for, did not want, and _don't_ want. TM is telling them they don't have a choice but to pay for the service they never asked for, don't want, and asked to have discontinued.
I agree with djrobx, TM should have simply added the ability for customers to opt-out of text messages. Problem solved. Oh, but that would cut off TM's revenue from people text message spamming their customers. | |
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| said by Tzale :You should have asked T-Mobile prior to signing the contract. End of story. I'm sick of people whining about things they DON'T KNOW SHIT about! Ask them what? What is everything you do and don't do? Get a clue, know what you're talking about and then post. You can't ask about something that is not disclosed. Read my post again if you can't figure that out. | |
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Ron Paul - No Bailout Conservative
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| Re: T-Mobile said by SilverSurfer :said by Tzale :I think people should stop purchasing services without reading the terms first... Purchase a service, sign a contract and not know the companies policies? -Tzale You're right about entering into a contract without first reading the terms, but stupidity notwithstanding, the fact that the customer then specifically called in to specifically ask T-Mobile to disable texting on his phone should be a no brainer. Since when can't features be disabled? I smell a class action lawsuit that will smack T-Mobile way down if it doesn't wise up soon. No one forced them to signup for service with T-Mobile in the first place. They should have found out if it was possible at first... We need less government and lawsuits in this world.. Not more. Stupidity should not be rewarded.
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Valencia, CA | Re: T-Mobile quote:
We need less government and lawsuits in this world.. Not more. Stupidity should not be rewarded
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| said by Tzale :Not more. Stupidity should not be rewarded. You're finally right about something. A company should not get away with forcing charges against a customer for which the customer has no control and the company won't correct the problem that THEY created. THAT is stupidity. | |
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Ron Paul - No Bailout Conservative
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| Re: T-Mobile said by tcope :said by Tzale :Not more. Stupidity should not be rewarded. You're finally right about something. A company should not get away with forcing charges against a customer for which the customer has no control and the company won't correct the problem that THEY created. THAT is stupidity. Don't sign the contract.. Simple as that.
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| Re: T-Mobile said by Tzale :said by tcope :said by Tzale :Not more. Stupidity should not be rewarded. You're finally right about something. A company should not get away with forcing charges against a customer for which the customer has no control and the company won't correct the problem that THEY created. THAT is stupidity. Don't sign the contract.. Simple as that. So basically you're saying all people (yourself included) have always gotten exactly as they deserved, no more, no less-because if they sign a contract, well that's tough shit-even if the contract does not specifically define or it is added without the customer's knowledge?
For example, what if Verizon adds "No Ron Paul supporters can use FIOS without paying 1000 dollars extra per month" to YOUR contract without your knowledge...that's okay by you because by your logic, you signed a contract, and therefore should STFU and stop whining and blah blah blippity blah.
No? Didn't think so. You'd scream to high heaven, hire a lawyer if you didn't get your way, and whine your way out of the contract as well.
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Ron Paul - No Bailout Conservative
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| Re: T-Mobile said by satellite68 :So basically you're saying all people (yourself included) have always gotten exactly as they deserved, no more, no less-because if they sign a contract, well that's tough shit- even if the contract does not specifically define or it is added without the customer's knowledge? For example, what if Verizon adds "No Ron Paul supporters can use FIOS without paying 1000 dollars extra per month" to YOUR contract without your knowledge...that's okay by you because by your logic, you signed a contract, and therefore should STFU and stop whining and blah blah blippity blah. No? Didn't think so. You'd scream to high heaven, hire a lawyer if you didn't get your way, and whine your way out of the contract as well. Yeah. That's classic. Check out all of the details about the service prior to signing the contract. That includes general service quality and any policies that the company enforces that are not within the contract.
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@alltel.net | That is not spelled out in the glorious contract you deliberately obtuse person!
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Long Beach, CA | And what's sad about this is... If they SPOKE to the Tech Support side of things... They can deactivate texts at the service side of things so they're completely blocked... Fine, it may not be in policy to do, but it's done. | |
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| You think this policy is spelled out in the contract? It likely just references a T&C document that is not furnished with the contract and you have to pull teeth to get a copy of. That is if they even "signed" the contract at all. Nowadays a verbal agreement to an contract available for view online counts as a "signature". | |
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Louisville, KY | On a wholly different subject, I too have T Mobile but use prepaid...and I don't get any of those text messages.
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| About time I had a problem with Verizon with this crap and its about time something is done. I know a few people with T-mobile and have had this issue.
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Pittsburgh, PA | Re: About time Yes but .... Big red will block your text useage. The problem with t mob is they don't even give users the option. | |
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Glenville NY | Re: About time Not Premium text messaging and that is where the problem was. | |
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Warren, OH | Re: About time Verizon does have the ability to block premium text messaging now, I had to call in about another reason and they said they just started to offer that block. | |
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join:2004-01-04
Houston, TX | I don't want SMS too! This is very annoying issue with T-Mobile. Even SMS from their own system are being charged.
Why should we pay for them I don't know. I do not use SMS service and tried disabling it with no success. | |
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I'm so much cooler offline
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clubs: | Re: I don't want SMS too! Are you sure that you are getting charged for SMS's from t-mobile, as in company business texts? My bill shows that all the texts from t-mobile are free so you may want to check in to that with customer service.
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| Re: I don't want SMS too! When I started with t-mobile a few months ago, system messages WERE being charged, and they were coming in at all hours of the day.
It was stupid stuff, like my fav five was updated or I paid my bill.
I was ready to pay the fine and leave, but I guess they heard me because it hasn't been a problem since that day I gave them hell. | |
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join:2005-05-01
Granite City, IL
| I called them 2 or 3 weeks ago about disabling incoming text messages and they walked me through how to do it online. Since doing so I have not received any text messages what so ever. T-Mobile never charges me for the text messages they send. However, I typically only get payment notifications after paying my bill. It sounds as if you signed up for some types of notification services for which they may be charging, such as weather, sports, news updates?
Call 611 on your mobile and see if they cannot help you disable your incoming text messages. If not message me and I will go try and remember how I did it. | |
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@mindspring.com | Re: I don't want SMS too! They only block email generated messages. No messages sent via text are blocked. You are mistaken. You are just lucky you haven't gotten any others.
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clubs: | another solution would be just to give people free unlimited incoming texts... that's what my provider (U.S. Cellular) does... | |
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| Texts Get T-Mobile Into Trouble I just started receiving spam texts form mobile aol that was hacked. t-mobile csr tells me he can block those no problem and then he tells me to go to the communications tools on the web site and add a filter that by entering any number i can block them out.
Of course i try it and it doesn't work, which they tell me on the next call. Called last week to have all charges removed. they would only do the spam texts until i asked for a supervisor. then it was a courtesy credit for all of them.
I don't even think they had texting when i first signed up with them.
Do any other companies do this also?
I was told at one time that if i sent 1000 messages to a friend, that yes indeed he would have a $150 bill. (and i did record it) | |
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| It should be fraud Other people not on your account should NOT be able to run you up a bill. That should be considered fraud. It's impossible with any other service, why is it possible with SMS?
You can choose to ignore a call and not be charged minutes, so why can't you choose to ignore a text so you aren't charged for it?
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@mindspring.com | Re: How this spam is "free speech" is baffling Also, email can be blocked.
Phone numbers can be blocked on a land line.
On a cell phone you can choose not to answer.
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Miami, FL | Great How do I sign up? I called them up three times already asking them if they could block test messages and they said there is nothing they can do. | |
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| More information As a T-Mobile customer I too requested to have SMS removed due to an influx of spam and recycling of my current number about 5 months ago. I was told that they cannot do this due to the necessity to allow the phone to receive SMS messages from T-Mobile (billing alerts, etc).
However, I have virtually eliminated all incoming SMS spam (except for the occasional person sending me a real human entered message from an old address book) using T-Mobile's anti-spam tools and changing my phones email address. It's worked great for the past 5 months.
Here's how you do it.
1) Sign in to My T-Mobile via »https://my.t-mobile.com/login/?
2) Click the Communication Tools menu item.
3) Click Change my phones email address in the bubble-menu on the right.
4) Change your address to something obscure, not mobilephonenumber@tmomail.net. For example, I use UNDISCLOSED_NULL_UNDISCLOSED_XXXX@tmomail.net where XXXX was the last four of my mobile phone number.
5) Update your settings to commit the changes.
6) Click Create e-mail filters in the bubble-menu on the right.
7) Select the Yes radio button for Block all messages from E-Mail to handset.
8) Select the No radio button for Allow messages ONLY to "My Phone's E-Mail address".
9) Update your settings to commit the changes.
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Facts do not cease to exist when ignored
join:2001-03-23
Milwaukee, WI | Re: More information Nice, thanks for the info. I just got a new number with T-Mobile and have been getting spam ever since. This should take care of it. | |
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