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The Boy Who Cried Fiber
Verizon excites media with tales of TV
by Karl Bode Friday 14-May-2004 tags: Fiber · business
Business Week gleefully notes that Verizon will soon be offering 5, 15, and 30Mbps fiber speed packages; even 100Mbps for those interested - is next week good for you? If you've paid attention (which Business Week hasn't), you've been hearing these same fiber promises from Verizon for more than a decade.

From Nynex in their 1993 annual report: "We're prepared to install between 1.5 million and 2 million fiber-optic lines through 1996 to begin building our portion of the information superhighway."

From a Bell Atlantic press release in 1996: "Later this year, Bell Atlantic will begin installing fiber-optic facilities and electronics to replace the predominantly copper cables between its telephone switching offices and customers - The company plans to add digital video broadcast capabilities to this 'fiber-to-the-curb,' switched broadband network by the third quarter of 1997."

As of 2003 however, only 39,000 US homes were connected to fiber lines. While we're finally seeing some very strong movement toward fiber by Verizon in 2004, it's far from a national rollout, which some analysts predict could take up to a decade to complete. Yet Business Week seems to hint you'll be seeing 30Mbps in no time? Nortel's CTO says 20Mbps within several years? Many users still can't get DSL!

And it isn't because of a lack of funding. Aside from traditional revenue streams, states like Pennsylvania have doled out billions in incentives to Verizon to deploy fiber state-wide. Once that money was paid, lawmakers watered down state legislation to lower the bar on deployment. A decade old bill designed to deliver residential fiber gave Verizon billions, but gave residents scattered 1.5Mbps DSL.

The truth is, promises of fiber to the home have been held out like a carrot in the face of regulators for decades. Just last month, the New Jersey state Board of Public Utilities ruled that Verizon could only "moderately increase" the wholesale rates the bell charges competitors to lease their lines. Verizon's response to such an "outrage"? A threat to pull away from a quarter-billion dollar fiber optic deployment in the state.

Traditionally skeptical of bell behavior or not, news outlets need to treat Verizon (and their fiber promises) like the boy who cried wolf, and stop clapping like children watching clowns make balloon animals every time Verizon issues a press release. At this point, believe in Verizon fiber to the home only when you're seeing the soft glow of the LEDs from your 30Mbps connected Verizon modem.

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ropeguru
Premium
join:2001-01-25
Mechanicsville, VA

Yeah right!!

"Verizon will soon be offering 5, 15, and 30Mbps fiber speed packages"

Yeah right... Maybe in places like D.C. where Verizon has pulled over 250 of their installers to so they can roll out wireless, pots, dsl and everything else in one bundled package. But not anywhere or any city like where I am. Hell, they have been promising to get my DSL for over three years and I am still stuck with crappy connections.

It will never happen... They are to self centered on making the big bonuses and millions of dollars to give their Executives. Not about doing something for the customer.

technick
Premium
join:2000-12-16
Wheat Ridge, CO
kudos:1

We can do it

I will probably not see fiber in my life time, though I have wanted fiber for so long. There's some major changes that need to happen to make this a reality. One, we need a new telco, a telco that is worried about it's customers, not their revenue. One that doesn't overcharge, and one that constantly innovates.

Maybe we should start our own telco in a small city, kick out any large carrier, and buy their lines from them in that area, and start our own. Then slowly grow, and creep through out the state. I know it won't be cheap, but in the long run we will do more good than any telco can ever do.

Just a thought... someone needs to do it
bogey780

join:2004-03-19
Here
kudos:1

my thoughts

FTTP won't be providing DSL. At least not how we think of it. It would drop straight to an ethernet connection from the converter.

Also the 39,000 customers is pure FTTP. I'm fairly confident the 1996 stories were referencing FTTC. Mainly because in thsoe years that's precisely what happened.
ParanoiaInc

join:2002-08-28
Tucker, GA

Re: my thoughts

Also, its not cheap deploying the elements at the end of that fiber pipe, let alone what the fiber is connected to in the first place. What good is a local-loop segment capable of 5,10, 20, or even 100 Mbps if they run smack into a telco's core ATM that has trouble supporting 1.5x256 copper local loops without over-subscribing 5-10x?

I cannot imagine an ATM or routed core in a telco network where no over-subscription takes place and 100-Mbps is delivered to the customer. That's a pipe dream and I doubt, seriously doubt, it will get done before I die.

My stance on this is based on the 'best effort' business model. Best effort with no minimum guarantee of service, which is today's business model in the wholesaler world.
wentlanc
You Can't Fix Dumb..

join:2003-07-30
Maineville, OH

Re: my thoughts

Even fiber to the neighborhood would be a miracle anymore.

puritan

alanhdsl
Premium
join:1999-10-09
Phoenix, AZ

Miracles can happen...

...if only in a few areas. I'm using Qwest's FTTN right now, which uses VDSL from the fiber termination to the premises. So it can work.
B
Premium,MVM
join:2000-10-28

Thumbs Up, Karl


I wish there were a thumbs-up feature for news posts. Nice job!

-- B
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In a realm outside causality and function

catseyenu
Ack Pfft
Premium
join:2001-11-17
Fix East

Re: Thumbs Up, Karl

Thumbs up!
neftv

join:2000-10-01
Broomall, PA

I don't pay attention no more.....

...to anything what Verizon or any other company when they promise stuff. It's all to just get attention that's all.

rec9140
Provoice just DO it

join:2003-07-29
Mulberry, FL

Re: I don't pay attention no more.....

said by neftv:
...to anything what Verizon or any other company when they promise stuff. It's all to just get attention that's all.
Exactly, and more to the point this is to manipulate their stock for "the street."

I am pretty sure the SEC has regulations on this kind of crap.

Kickroot
Java Heathen
Premium
join:2002-11-24
Glassboro, NJ

Riiiiight....

I'd be thrilled if Verizon would increase my download speed past 768k.

Meh.

MTC_Wes

join:2004-04-22
Fergus, ON

mmmm.. fiber

I live 45 minutes outside of Toronto, and up here not only does the local Bell run fiber, but the regional and provincial electricity companies operate their own fiber optic network that is basically anywheres you can find a utility sub-station. No, we don't have fiber to the home, but your never very far from a fiber loop. AND yes, the utility does offer internet transit/point to point links for a fair fee (Dedicated 5Mbps link for $700/mth CAD, or shared for cheaper) on top of that the transportation authority also operates fiber optic networks along any major highway, they also offer connections to anyone that wants it. I don't know how it works in the US. but the general idea here is that these utilities/authorities have lots of extra capacity to sell off.
bmn
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Premium,ExMod 2003-06
join:2001-03-15
hiatus

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Re: mmmm.. fiber

Well, in America, I can say that the backbone providers have been complaining for years that they've overbuilt and that there is tons of capacity yet to be tapped. This overbuilding and lack of utilization has kept many providers from reaching profitability. What they need to do is pressure the last mile providers to expand and get faster speeds to the end user.

I've long said that Level3, Worldcrap (err, Worldcom) and the other backbone providers should get into the last mile market and sell capacity directly to the customer. $300/Mbps is way inflated, but its what they are having to charge because of extreme under-utilization.
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lesopp

join:2001-06-27
Land O Lakes, FL

Sure we'll see it, about the time ....

somebody invents a "remote viewer/ESP" interface. Then Verizon will claim it is unfair and want regulatory relief from those pesky laws of physics that are holding them down.

bigdaddy175

join:2003-05-08
Miami, FL

yah right!!

"The new fiber-optic lines also will allow Verizon to offer the most advanced consumer broadband service the U.S. has ever seen. Internet connections of up to 30 megabits per second, more than 10 times faster than a state-of-the-art cable modem or digital subscriber line (DSL), will be possible, Verizon executives say. Five- and 15-megabit versions will be available for customers who don't require all that juice. Although specific pricing hasn't been decided, the 5-meg version will be competitive with cable modem service, which typically costs $40 to $45 a month. Eventually, if there's demand for it, Verizon intends to offer consumers Net connections of 100 megs or more."

Is this a joke or something? I'll believe it when I See it.. 100 megs is not scheduled for another 25-30 years. I doubt Verizon will roll out 5 megs for $40-$45 because.. well.. its too damn cheap lol.

orldf

@verizon.net

3mb dsl yes - fiber maybe by 2010

Verizon won't upgrade until some competitor forces their hand. They honestly don't give a care about giving anyone the best or fastest service, they care only that you keep paying them each month for whatever it takes to keep you paying them.

So honestly you won't see fiber to your house in this decade I think. Laugh you might, but you will see.
Fierytemplar

join:2003-07-11
Warminster, PA

eh?

so what? if you guys keep paying them each month and they mantain a profit, theres no reason for them to upgrade. when states pay them sackloads of money to upgrade though, it is a different matter and verizon should be held accountable
bfranks

join:2002-06-22
Arlington, VA

Texas.... Didn't PA give enough?

Maybe I am missing something here, but if Pennsylvania gave Verizon money to roll out a fiber network that was abandoned, and then was later forgiven of the grants, why is Verizon rolling the service out in Texas?

That doesn't make any sense to me.
Underplay

join:2003-10-19
Tacoma, WA

bs

This is pathetic, if i had the power i would crush verizon and fource all the other providers to make 5mbp/s there lowest package for $40 a month.
Tim2
Premium
join:2006-06-19

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Oops.

Forgot this was a very old thread.

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