said by Bit :

Tell that to China who is pushing "Buy China" in their own stimulus plans.

It seems that the US is the only one worried about participating in the "global" economy. Everyone else is looking out for their own best interests and if it fits the "global" equation so be it and if it doesn't, so be it.

We will never "compete" with the slave wages, zero environmental regulations, lower taxes and near-zero regulatory burden companies face overseas. The 'big sucking sound' is the reality of the global economy bitch slapping the US into 3rd world status.

said by Matt :

So, let China keep their low-wage manufacturing while we create high-paying science and technology jobs. They can continue to make products that are, as Apple puts it, "Designed in California, Made in China" That arrangement works out rather well for us.

said by patcat88 :

So what happens when China embargoes us? Military police seizing all electronics in the USA to find components and transistors to build a tank or a radar system or avionics?

said by Bit :

What high paying science and technology jobs? Thanks to H1b even work done in the US is done at substandard wages because what jobs aren't outsourced, we bring in immigrants to depress our wages.

You have NO economy without a large manufacturing base, period. It is manufacturing, not design, that drives an economy.

said by Matt :

So, let China keep their low-wage manufacturing while we create high-paying science and technology jobs.

said by Bit :

It seems that the US is the only one worried about participating in the "global" economy. Everyone else is looking out for their own best interests and if it fits the "global" equation so be it and if it doesn't, so be it.

said by russotto :

I'm not sure what good math and science will do, perhaps we can export engineers to countries which still can make things?

said by JSRoman :

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

said by LeftOfSanity :

Would you have liked it if your ancestors were shown that sign?

said by Bit :

A design only economy is not sustainable. There simply aren't enough design jobs. Ongoing manufacturing is what sustains an economy. Supply a man a fish and you have a fishing job for life. Teach the man to fish and you are unemployed as soon as you are done teaching.

said by Matt :

The sooner we realize that we are moving to a global economy and the money is no longer in manufacturing, the better off we'll be.

said by S_engineer :

You can't have a major economy without manufacturing...you can't even have a middlel class without manufacturing. Without manufacturing we become a service sector nation, with wages that compete on a global scale, or to be specific, Chinese wages. Those that push a global economy can only look at themselves when taxes go through the roof for subsidies for Americans to have homes, healthcare, and services. The Chinese have been subsidizing thier own manufacturing through manipulation of the yuan, lowering the value of the dollar in China. Asian Steel Companies have flooded the market with cheaper low grade steel killing the US steel manufacturers. And you want to apease these same countries by saying "we're moving on"?
The Chinese have actively been in a trade war with the US for over a decade......and typical of US policy, we won't act until it's too late.

said by Matt :

The sooner we realize that we are moving to a global economy and the money is no longer in manufacturing, the better off we'll be. This is why we need investment in math and science, we're never again going to be able to compete in the manufacturing sector like we did post-WWII. It's time to move on.

said by Bit :

And if the WTO wants to bitch that our government is finally taking the side of the American worker, we should leave the WTO.

said by Bit :

The second that dollar leaves it is gone.

said by mrkevin :

Could this really be done using ONLY American made products?

This just goes to show how F-ing stupid these people really are.
Even American flags are made in China...

said by Bit :

There is nothing stimulating about these pork bills. It is paybacks to public employee unions and giveaways to foreign companies who make the products going into these projects. Joe Taxpayer ain't gettin' nothin' but the bill.

Meanwhile we have quadrupled out deficit spending and will double the national debt within a decade with the result being debt service costs that will bankrupt us.

We were told if we passed this insane pork spending, unemployment would be halted at below 9%. Now we are at 9.4% quickly heading toward 10%.

Our problems were caused by excessive debt and over-leveraging. Doing more of the same isn't going to fix it. ALL it will result in is INSANE debt and hyper inflation.

You want the rest of the nation is total fiscal collapse like Kauleefournya...keep spending asswipes.

said by Bit :

There is nothing stimulating about these pork bills. It is paybacks to public employee unions and giveaways to foreign companies who make the products going into these projects. Joe Taxpayer ain't gettin' nothin' but the bill.

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