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Columbus, OH | Re: if you can get dsl or cable in your area Keep in mind that DSL still has a relatively small footprint (particularly in more rural areas) compared to cable and dialup. So for many people it's either dial-up for ~$20 or cable for $40+. For casual users it's, I imagine, had to justify the added expense of cable.
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Tallahassee, FL | Re: if you can get dsl or cable in your area My parents live out in the boons, but do have DSL as an option. They stick with dial-up though, because they log on a couple time a week to check e-mail. The bad part is they are on AOL. I've been trying to get them off, but no dice. I don't blame them for sticking with dial-up, but wish they'd get off AOL. It even makes there computer run slower than constipation.
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| | | You know there is something here that has been irking me for a while and frankly its the mindset.
In this scenario, the ploy is to force customers to a broadband solution but frankly many of these poor users can't get affordable broadband either because it's too rural an area or the telcos are too cheap to invest in updating the infrastucture. I have many clients and friends that just can't get broadband solutions....so they're stuck with dial-up. And now, they want to raise the prices...not to support an upgrade in quality or service but simply as a marketing ploy. Oh pound salt on that one,
It seams more and more people assume the standard method of access to the internet is broadband...when its still in fact a dial-up connection. Gone are the days when websites used to have a text only option on the default web page and gone are the days you used to be able to patch the Windows OS on dial-up.
I have to regularly remind Web developers that although pictures are pretty, content and communication is what a commercial web page is about. And if a potential customer has to wait 7 minutes for pages to load they'll go elsewhere for solutions.
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If we had any sort of competitive market at all there would probably at least be "broadband lite" tiers at $15-20/mo. | |
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join:2000-05-11 | Re: pretty sad There are "broadband lite" tiers at that price point in SBC and Verizon territory at least. $12.99/mo for 1536/384 (SBC) and that includes a free unlimited nationwide dialup account you can use a the same time while travelling, etc. Even factoring in the cost of the phone line (which you need with dialup anyway) it's less than what AOL wants to charge for dialup alone.
It's not broadband availability, it's inertia keeping these folks on a $25/mo dialup.
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join:2000-05-11 | Re: pretty sad If they are on AOL dialup they wouldn't be 'current customers' now, would they?
And in fact if you know what you are doing you can be re-rated to the $12.99 rate even if you *are* a current DSL customer.
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yeah thats sad but they do give you a lil deal i was paying 29.99 now I pay 21.99 for dslpro only 4 bucks over the first time buyer price and if you're lucky you might get a operator that will charge you the first time buyers price some people on here got that deal | |
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kudos:4 | Re: You've got mail, some where else said by OldschoolDSL:I currently am using BYOA (Bring your own access) for 9.95 and they seem to offer even less then when I first tried them sometime ago. I see others that pay for BYOA. I have only 1 question - WHY?
You can get email anywhere for free. And everything else AOL supplies with BYOA can be had elsewhere.
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| | | | Re: You've got mail, some where else said by Romney2012:You can get email anywhere for free. And everything else AOL supplies with BYOA can be had elsewhere. It all depends on the person.
My parents, who recently moved in with me, still pay for MSN dial-up. I have Comcast HSI. They hook in via my router and never use dial up. They ONLY reason they keep the dial up is for the email. I have already informed them of the free email thing but they don't want to change. (Sidenote: I am going to see if MSN has a BYOB option.)
Look at the whole cell phone number portability issue. People wanted to change service providers but wanted their old phone numbers. That is what drove those laws through. I still wish they would keep certain exchanges for landlines (or VOIP) and certain ones for cell. | |
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| Re: You've got mail, some where else said by moonpuppy:said by Romney2012:You can get email anywhere for free. And everything else AOL supplies with BYOA can be had elsewhere. It all depends on the person. My parents, who recently moved in with me, still pay for MSN dial-up. I have Comcast HSI. They hook in via my router and never use dial up. They ONLY reason they keep the dial up is for the email. I have already informed them of the free email thing but they don't want to change. (Sidenote: I am going to see if MSN has a BYOB option.) Look at the whole cell phone number portability issue. People wanted to change service providers but wanted their old phone numbers. That is what drove those laws through. I still wish they would keep certain exchanges for landlines (or VOIP) and certain ones for cell. I had a MSN.com address when I was with them. I canceled them 2 years ago when I tasted RoadRunner Cable internet for the first time. A few weeks after I canceled MSN Dial Up, I noticed my MSN.com address was still active and receiving mail, although it was taking me to the hotmail.com site instead.
Have your parents back up any important emails and addresses then cancel MSN. I think you'll be glad to tell your parents they don't even need MSN to keep the MSN.com address.
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I will even have the 2gig email service for some reason. My brother in law still gets his msn mail but they dropped the amount of storage back to what it would be with hotmail. But, he still gets to use the msn email address.
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Indeed you can, but with what you're paying AOL, why not just get a domain for 10 bucks and have it hosted for 5 and you could have: IusedToBeAnAOLluserButNowImNot@IusedToBeAnAOLluserButNowImNot.com
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said by DaMaGeINC:Ya. I never got why you would pay EXTRA just for their crap???? You are already online, and have full access to the Internet. WTF are you thinking? It's their so-called "content," plus 12-year old 1337 h@x0r w@nn@b35 need their chat rooms.
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Many of us have friends that we hook up with on AOL. People that we have met, etc. there are numerous reasons why one would wish to pay $7.95 for BYOA, even if you dont happen to have any.
On top of which, AOL has excellent mail controls. AOL radio, which includes XM satellite, is also quite good. The chats can be excellent sources of entertainment, not to mention being able to set up private rooms that you control and where no bots come so your group can congregate in peace.
Overall, 7.95 is peanuts, especially if you are on the 12.99 plan from at&t, both of which cost less than AOL dialup together.
What it amounts to is to each their own. No one says you have to like AOL, or, use it and bashing it with the same stupid posts time after time every chance you get is meaningless in the end. | |
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kudos:10 | Re: You've got mail, some where else I'm seriously considering paying the 10.00/mo for aol simply to be able to access the radio@aol using my Dlink dsm320 media center. I've been using the 6 month trial and it's freaking awesome.
You can use live 365.com with it for free but it's just not the same quality.
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| | | | | | Ah, news flash; free program which allows use of Aim, MSN, Yahoo, and several other chats, private chats, IM's, file send. Also, AOL radio w/XM is now free on aol.com. All the folks who continue to make up an excuse to stay with AOL, will stay no matter what choices people will show they have.
My sister, just finally get rid of AOL dialup, after this price rip-off. They now have Cox cable, and WIFI in the house. Best part, they can all finally use their individual PC at the same time. They finally go it and see the LIGHT.
I told them to make a second SN before they canx AOL, signup with AIM, and now they can stay in contact with their aol buddies, all without paying for silly dial-up with aol. | |
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Ah, news flash; free program which allows use of Aim, MSN, Yahoo, and several other chats, private chats, IM's, file send. Also, AOL radio w/XM is now free on aol.com. All the folks who continue to make up an excuse to stay with AOL, will stay no matter what choices people will show they have.
My sister, just finally get rid of AOL dialup, after this price rip-off. They now have Cox cable, and WIFI in the house. Best part, they can all finally use their individual PC at the same time. They finally go it and see the LIGHT.
I told them to make a second SN before they canx AOL, signup with AIM, and now they can stay in contact with their aol buddies, all without paying for silly dial-up with aol.
A second SN is ok, but why? I canceled AOL 5 years ago after the free year and billing screwup and 2 years later I found out my AIM name was still active and usable even after my AOL Dial Up account was long dead and cold.
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Not everyone who goes online is a pimply faced teenager who can't get a date and still lives at home with his parents and whose only connection to anything is via a computer.
$9 a month dial up is more than enough for the baby boomers and other more rural people in America and many inner city people. In many cases the TV and the radio serve all the entertainment needs of a great majority of people.
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Grand Rapids, MI | Re: Hmm That closed minded idea. When I first got a cable modem I was in college and still living at home. When I moved out I moved my account to my new place. It was not more than 6 months my father (who is 50) had a cable modem installed in his name. He hated how slow dial-up was. My point is that he is not a pimply faced teenager but he still has a use for broadband. Just because some one is old does not mean that are not going to keep of with technology. Think before you make stereotypical comment like that. | |
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The fact (with a few exceptions, just like in anything) is that older people generally do NOT keep up with technology. Analog Cable TV and off air radio are plenty for them. They are products of a different generation and mindset. People try to judge them by todays mindset/standards and that's where they make their mistake. | |
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| | It used to be free Hell, it used to be free. I used to have Access4Free as a backup for when my broadband ISP went down. Of course I have no POTS now so that doesn't count anymore.
They charged a $5 activation and gave you 10 hours free per month then $1 per additional hour with a maximum of I believe $10.
Of course around April or May last year they went out of business.
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There are ways to avoid the ad bar.
And I think it is only for Windows so I have no use for it.
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a whole 10 hours a month? Hell, I get that NATIONWIDE with my at&t broadband, as well as another 15 with my AOL byoa. Allmost guaranteed that AOL has a access number near where you are, no matter where. Cant say that for the low cost dialup outfits. Besides, AOL ALLREADY offers $9.95 dialup service. It's calles NETSCAPE, ever hear of them? Yes, using the AOL network and dialup numbers.
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Saint Louis, MO | Marketing Jeenuses! Gee, I guess that makes AOL the "New Coke" of ISPs. I would liked to have seen the circle jerk of "Group Think" where this idea was launched. If the Dial-Up Wars are still raging, picking a winner at this point won't be so difficult. Just remember:
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Fayetteville, AR | Guess what AOL... America is already online. It ain't just through your service either. | |
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kudos:5 | hmm I just don't understand how aol could have gone down hill so fast after inventing the internet. | |
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Their mindset is that you are not just paying for basic dialup internet service (which they offer through Netscape). You are also paying for the content that comes with the dialup (no matter if you use it or not, just like the bundles from the telcos). This has been their basic business model for a long time and is also what made them successfull.
Now, however, you have widely available broadband and this, coupled with losses in customer base (much of which is caused by festering problems in the service and AOL's long time unwillingness/inability to deal with them) that, if they are even half awake, they can no longer afford to ignore, they are being forced to do something about.
This business about raising the price of the dialup is typical AOL. Besides, in the adverts they run here, their broadband is "STARTING as low as $25.95".
I'm sure part of it is typical AOL arrogance, thinking that the suckers will stay with them no matter what and they can still rake in the cash, while the rest will migrate to broadband, hopefully with their co branded package, which is, of course, conveniently packaged for the convenience of Joe and Jane box of rocks.
I'm sure they think that, at least this way, they will keep some of them no matter what. Not that Time Warner isn't one of the greediest and most arrogant corporations in the world to begin with, of course. | |
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Maybe AOL should have, um, checked the telco and local loop/CO databases and not punish millions of users who can't get broadband anyway. | |
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2 edits | Dear AOL.. ..I just want to thank you for offering me a FREE 2GB e-mail account(thru aim.com) using a account name/password that I created through you back in October 1993. Also, Netscape.net offer's me a 256Mb account using the above mentioned screename/password as well. Trillian does a great job of keeping tabs on both those address's as well as Yahoo, ICQ, MSN.
By the way, LOVE AOL/TV-keep up the good work..okay? Oh, did I mention that these offerings are...like...FREE??!!
And your NEW FREE web site isn't bad either-using my '93 vintage screename/password.
C'mon, AOL, get real. Offer standard dialup for $10.00 a month unlimited, and you'll be golden. BYOA for $7.50 unlimited as well.
Think about it, Ad-driven internet sales are on the up-swing, why not LOWER pricing to keep what customers you have left!!!! | |
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Edit: Actually I used this tweak even with the software then I could sign out anytime and still stay connected. As well as apply modem tweaks for reliability and full 56k connection that only work on manual connections. Just tell the software you already are connected and set it to use the one you set up. My wife still keeps MSN as a backup because she likes $17.95+the content being accessable through broadband with a totally seperate from ISP backup to broadband. So I know it still works on MSN 9. | |
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