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1 edit | Garbage channels anyway HDNet schedule
Oh God!, You Devil
The Hunt for Red October
Starman
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join:2002-04-19
Miami, FL | Re: Garbage channels anyway Three channels for $5 dollars isn't worth it no matter whats on the channel, when for $10 your getting more then 70 HD channels. | |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| said by Jon  :HDNet scheduleOh God!, You Devil The Hunt for Red October Starman are they serious? who'd pay for that? I mean.. Starman? LMAO! Then you shouldn't have an issue with them moving the channel. | |
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| Re: Garbage channels anyway said by BF69 :Then you shouldn't have an issue with them moving the channel. Don't recall saying that I did have an issue with it. | |
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| "One man's garbage..."
Still, maybe this is their way of keeping the "regular" HD package price from increasing--moving the "pricey" channels to another [who really wants them anyway] package.
Or, over time, more and more channels might be moved into the "extra" package, as the regular package gets smaller and smaller.
Yep, time will tell. | |
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ninjatutle
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join:2006-01-02
San Ramon, CA | Yeah those channel are garbage. I wouldnt even watch them if they offered me free cable each month by watching one of those channels for an hour each day. | |
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@sprintlink.net | Re: Garbage channels anyway you may not care for them but someone must(I don't have the service) kind of reminds me of the ole "they came for the Jews but I'm not Jewish" story because sooner or later they will get to the channels you may like | |
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@verizon.com | liars However there word it, its still a rate hike. Sorry but there is no other way around that.
I could care less about those channels anyway. | |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| Re: liars said by Me22 :
However there word it, its still a rate hike. Sorry but there is no other way around that. when those 3 channels were part of the HD package but before the recent HD additions how many HD channels did you get for $10? How many do you get now for your $10? And you complain about a rate hike? More channels, same price = rate hike?
I could care less about those channels anyway.
So what is the issue then? | |
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@verizon.com
| Re: liars Wasn't complaining about the hike. Its the way they are interpreting it. They still deny this is a hike. To me I could care less cause I'm not interested in the channels they are including in the new tier.
The debate here is they said prior to the launch there would be no hike in price and actually there still stating that! But some how if you want to keep those channels its another $4.99.
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join:2000-02-24
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| Re: liars said by TKJunkMail :A rose by any other name smells the same. They can call it anything they want, but if you have to pay more to keep the channels you already had, then it is a rate hike. Of course, a rate hike may be justified given the additional costs of providing all the extra channels. Just when I think I have actually seen you stand up for consumers, you blow it with the last sentence. 
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| Re: liars said by Jovi :said by TKJunkMail :A rose by any other name smells the same. They can call it anything they want, but if you have to pay more to keep the channels you already had, then it is a rate hike. Of course, a rate hike may be justified given the additional costs of providing all the extra channels. Just when I think I have actually seen you stand up for consumers, you blow it with the last sentence. And your refusing to accept the fact that costs are going up isn't being pro-consumer. It is merely refusing to face reality.
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·T-Mobile US
| Re: liars said by TKJunkMail :said by Jovi :said by TKJunkMail :A rose by any other name smells the same. They can call it anything they want, but if you have to pay more to keep the channels you already had, then it is a rate hike. Of course, a rate hike may be justified given the additional costs of providing all the extra channels. Just when I think I have actually seen you stand up for consumers, you blow it with the last sentence. And your refusing to accept the fact that costs are going up isn't being pro-consumer. It is merely refusing to face reality. Where in my post did I claim anything, to any side sir? 
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join:2004-07-28
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| said by Jovi :said by TKJunkMail :A rose by any other name smells the same. They can call it anything they want, but if you have to pay more to keep the channels you already had, then it is a rate hike. Of course, a rate hike may be justified given the additional costs of providing all the extra channels. Just when I think I have actually seen you stand up for consumers, you blow it with the last sentence. I suppose adding nearly 40 HD channels should be FREE to the consumer? Actually it is. Still $10 for HD tier. Anyone complaining about what you get with DirectTvs HD tier for $10 and what you get with ANY cable service HD tier for the same price is crazy. | |
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join:2000-12-14
Upper Marlboro, MD
| Get VOOM please I think recently was that the reason why they did this was because Directv has to pay quite a lot extra for these channels since they don’t have a SD counterpart.
So basically its $9.99 a month for the HD package and $4.95 for the HD “Extra Package” . I think the HD extra package would be worth it if Directv also signs an agreement with VOOM to include VOOMS 15 HD channels in that “Extra Package”. But as it is right now, I don’t see a lot of people going to subscribe to that HD Extra Package.
Listen up Directv, sign an agreement soon with VOOM to get those 15 HD channels. | |
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@nextweb.net | Re: Get VOOM please Voom content sucks. I have it with E* and other than an occasional movie on Kung-Fu, it's all worthless filler. | |
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join:2000-12-14
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| Re: Get VOOM please said by VoomSucks :
Voom content sucks. I have it with E* and other than an occasional movie on Kung-Fu, it's all worthless filler.
I now. I have watched VOOM on Cablevision in NY and I wouldn't find anything on the 15 channels to watch. But that is not the issue. People need to feel that they are getting a perceived value when they sign up for a package. That $4.99 as it is is worthless. However, if you add 15 more HD channels(VOOM) to it, then people will perceive they are getting a deal and will subscribe.
Remember, people only watch a few channels on TV anyway.
Also, VOOM is only on Dish and Cablevision even though its website says that it is available to all subscribers. VOOM needs to ramp up with customers base by signing deals with all the other cable/satellite companies. This would results in millions more in income to VOOM which hopefully, they could use to buy better programming. That just me looking at it from a business angle. VOOM needs to sign agreements with Comcast, FIOS TV, Charter, TW, etc. This would mean millions of dollars in more revenue to them. | |
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| Still cheaper than E* My Dish Network HD tier is $20 and has fewer channels so while it sucks they're taking an increase, it's still competitively priced for DBS. And forget CATV, Comcrap just gone done taking the 2nd increase this year.
When my promos are done and my basic service+HD goes up to $90/mo (no premiums or anything mind you), I'm going back to MCE and a pair OTA ATSC tuners. Other than South Park, Robot Chicken and Battlestar Galactica I don't find myself DVRing anything off cable. Nearly all of the channels on E* are overpriced crap (eg FoodTV HD). For the price of any of these CATV or DBS providers you can get Netflix or Blockbuster plus buy whatever episodes you want off Amazon Unbox (if you're a TiVo user) or iTunes. | |
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join:2001-04-20
| Re: Still cheaper than E* I am so confused. I just read articles that Dish added a NHL HD. In these articles it mentions Dish has the most HD channels (for example: »biz.yahoo.com/pz/071018/129120.html) but over the past few weeks reading DSLreports with Direct adding all these new HD channels it appears Direct has more... which is true?
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join:2001-08-08
Springfield, IL
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| Nothing is free What did the satellite users believe, that they where going to get the extras for the same price? It does cost money to pay the providers for the services, and Direct is not going to dip into their pockets for it. Plus they have to pay for the new rocket to be launched next year.
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@verizon.com | Re: Nothing is free Amen nothing is free! but dont tell me there is no price hike when there is one. I dont think the issue is the price hike but the denial | |
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join:2001-11-25
Orchard Park, NY
clubs: | Whats Next Direct TV EXTRA HD Sports Pack - 4.99
Direct TV Extra HD Homes Improvement Pack - 3.99
LMAO
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join:2003-12-08
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| Once Scifi is HD, universal HD can go away. I only watched universal HD for Battlestar Galactica, and even that was a season behind.
i would not be complaining if this happened to me. Hell, if Cox wants to lump Mojo, and Universal HD into a different package i would not complain one bit. | |
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join:2000-04-10
Richland, WA | Re: Once Scifi is HD, universal HD can go away. SciFi IS HD on DTV, was just turned on a couple weeks ago. Gotta have the new MPG4 receiver and 5 lnb dish. | |
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2 edits | I called yesterday I called Directv yesterday (10/18 /07)& NOW talking to "SUPERVISOR"/Resolution Specialist,Joseph(10/18/2007@10;02 c.t.
ASKED about the HD Extra HD PACK, because some said they called& by signing up early they received 3 months off.
so i called last night and was asked IF wanted to sign up early for the HD package (which i have at present) & the HD extra pack,would i get the discount also
am NOW ON PHONE AGAIN TO this morning,and told,
1, Come December 16th,you'll along with everyone else will that want to keep the HD channels will HAVE TO
1,Call and re sign back up with u,there is NO early sign up, (at that time then you may be offered the discounts)thats why we are presantly allowing everyone to see these channels for free right now.
2, You will have to continue to pay for your HD package, ($9.99) and then you'll also have to pay ($4.99) for the HD extra package.
just got off phone @ 10:13 CT.
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Crisis Management Squad
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join:2002-02-08
Houston, TX
clubs: | Re: I called yesterday Thank you for sharing that. I am probably moving to DirecTV soon so I'm looking forward to putting this information to good use. | |
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join:2001-08-08
Springfield, IL | Most likely, they left out the part where you will have to sign a contract & pay the ETF to cancel and resign. | |
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join:2001-09-10
Fredericksburg, VA | lol So they add tons of HD content, and people complain about $5? | |
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Hooks, TX
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| Re: lol EXACTLY! Everyone with an HD TV finally has some HD channels to watch. Now they can stop whining about not having any HD channels to watch, and start whining about having to pay a measly $5.00 to get them.
It reminds me of a story I heard about the Wright brothers and their airoplane at Kitty Hawk. The critics and whiners were all along saying "it'll never fly! It'll never fly!" Those same people were running along the ground below it when it finally did fly and they were yelling up at it "It'll never land! It'll never land!
I wanted a home phone for nothing. Then I found Magic Jack at »www.magicjack.com It cost me $39.95 to buy and use for a year. Then $29.00 for the second year. It isn't free, but I'm sure not going to complain about the cost. I can only imagine how much money the guy pulled out of his own pocket to get this project up and flying. The cost seems fair, and more than worth it to me.
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My views are my own.
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| Re: lol said by Mercurybird :EXACTLY! Everyone with an HD TV finally has some HD channels to watch. Now they can stop whining about not having any HD channels to watch, and start whining about having to pay a measly $5.00 to get them. Since when is HD, the new generation of technology, a "premium" in the first place?
$5, so you know, is not tier 1, but tier 2 in the HD lineup.
If Comcast did this, there would be well over 100 responses by now.. when DirecTV does this, they get a pass.
Day in and day out, around here, it's "upgrade my service... drop my price..." and "I want more and I'll pay you less"... so maybe this is confusing me.. or otherwise there are A LOT of hypocrites on this web site who are ingenious about why they REALLY desire what they do.
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join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| said by Mercurybird :I wanted a home phone for nothing. Then I found Magic Jack at » www.magicjack.com It cost me $39.95 to buy and use for a year. Then $29.00 for the second year. It isn't free, but I'm sure not going to complain about the cost. I can only imagine how much money the guy pulled out of his own pocket to get this project up and flying. The cost seems fair, and more than worth it to me. They jacked the second year $10?
weren't years 2+ $19.99/year?
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join:2004-09-23
| You don't know all the details To get any of the newly added HD channels you are required to give them $300 as an "upgrade" to their new mpeg-4 decoder box (DVR version). For that $300 you get the privilege of RENTING the box (they don't sell them anymore).
So yeah, we now have to fork over another $5 monthly to get absolutely nothing more than we got before OR we get less for the same amount of money. It's just another company nickel-and-diming us with rate increases hidden by another name. | |
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| If can't be satisfied... I have Direct TV with DVR and the bill is around $90 a month. There lots more channels than cable had plus I get some satelite radio channels. If you can't find anything you like with all those channels for that money you need to stop watching TV and pursue another form of entertainment, thats as good as it's going to get.
I remember paying $10 a month for 13 cable channels in the 1970's - two were public access. The cost/content/performance curve for television is probably ahead of personal computers. | |
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Raptus Regaliter
Premium
join:2003-01-29
Tijeras, NM
| That's not the point... No. We are complaining that we have been supporting DTV by paying $10.00 a month for years for crap practically nonexistent HD content. Now that they are finally making it worth the $10.00, they want even more.
Not going to happen from this charter subscriber.
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Fire Survivor
join:2000-10-10
Lake Arrowhead, CA
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| One Price, ALL HD I maintain that if you pay one set fee for HD Programming, you ought to get every stinking HD channel they have.
I don't care if they call it extra pak, I don't care if it's a movie channel (and frankly, if you don't have HD, and you pay for movie channels, you don't get the HD one anyway, so why make the HD movie channel a subset of a movie package when it should be an HD package), or a sports channel (same reasoning as the movie channel, that HD channel is not part of a Sports Pak, unless you already pay for HD, then woohoo, one more HD channel).
DTV has been stupid about this from the start. Now I don't have DTV anymore, bt my dad does and he can't understand DTV either (and he agrees that one HD fee should equal all HD content). HD is what's important these days, and we want it, but not at the expense of buying every premium package just to get a few HD channels here and there. It's a scam.
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Kash76
join:2003-09-08
Burnsville, MN
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| Other than the hardware it doesn't cost them anymore! In the most recent earnings call the CEO verified that it doesn't cost them anymore to carry channels that are in SD already.
So, I have paid $10 a month for almost two years for maybe 8 HD channels of which DTV paid those HDNet and the others that are now going to be in the $4.99 package. Now they are separating them and it doesn't cost them a penny more than before to offer them. It doesn't cost them (other than the investment in the sats) anymore to broadcast all 100 HD channels that are simulcast. That's where I have a beef with this whole thing.
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join:2007-07-18
Newport, KY
| Re: Other than the hardware it doesn't cost them anymore! You don't think that 2 satellites that cost in the hood of $400,000,000 each adds to the overall cost????
DirecTV didn't need these birds to replace any currently in orbit. They did these two sats to add this HD content. Should they have spent $1,000,000,000+ (launch fees ya know) out of the goodness of their hearts?
You want the HD content including those without SD as well? Pay the $15 a month. You don't want it? Don't pay it. Simple.
Me? I have waited to buy an HD TV waiting for some actual content from a provider. I will wait until after Christmas to see where TV prices go after that. Then, HD all the way. And I will pay the $15 a month fee to get ALL of the HD content. | |
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@verizon.net
| The Cable Equal-izer As long as you have broadband, you have cable... well, sort of:
»thepiratebay.org/browse
»www.chooseandwatch.com/index.php
Those who pay for what can be gotten at those two sites above for free; I pity the fool!
Make sure you make those sentiments KNOWN to customer service when you CANCEL THE ACCOUNT, same goes for Comcast, Cox, Cablevision, AT&T, Verizon and the rest. Cable-Tv customers are ON STRIKE! | |
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rahlquist
Redeye
join:2001-10-30
Villa Rica, GA
| Someone is crying over nothing Oh for crying out loud Karl get a grip.
These additional channels are not HD versions of existing channels but are NEW channels. You want to ADD those 3 new channels then you're going to have to pay for them. Just consider the 3 channel freebie to mid December and extened preview weekend like Showtime and HBO run (matter of fact the Smithsonian HD channel last I heard which is produced by Showtime was part of this pack too).
So no, your existing hd service isnt going up, yes you are getting all the new HD channels except those 3 which didnt have corresponding standard def channels in the past anyway.
I'll make sure to alert hollywood that the next movie you go to you expect free admissions to all the movies released after that.
Wahhhhh
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join:2002-10-06
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| Re: Someone is crying over nothing What are they not said in is that Customer who had and old package will not be able to get the hd pack if they do not change they package, Example if you got a package front 2 years ago and you want hd with that package they will tell you can not get. and force to change package. | |
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join:2002-05-24
Sandy, UT
| You don't have DirecTV. I know that because if you did you would know those 3 channels have been part of the HD Tier for YEARS. In fact in all the time there were only 7 HD channels those 3 were part of it. In fact those 3 channels are 3 of the 7 that the HD TIVO can see. | |
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join:2002-04-19
Miami, FL
| receiver I would like to add that back a couple of months before DirectTV started add more HD channels, I called and said I wanted to get HD for one room because I got a new HDTV. They said no problem, and they offered a free dish upgrade(my old one didn't support hd) and free hd receiver (no dvr cause my parents don't want it.) I don't remember the model number, but I can see all the newly added HD channels.
Try and call and see if maybe you can and say you got a new HDTV and see if you can get a free receiver upgrade. | |
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obeythelaw
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join:2003-04-16
Bayonne, NJ
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| Should be included free with premium package What Directv should at least do is for those that have the premium plan and pay the $10 for the HD channels, that those that pay for the premium plan, which in essence, is the highest package you can pay for, they should include those three channels and not force an additional $5 out of its users that happen to subscribe, already, to the most expensive package. You know that once next year comes, some more channels will move into this new tier. Alas, many people will break down and just say it's "only $5" and Directv wins again.
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| Re: Should be included free with premium package I can promaise EVERYONE, when I am fed up with they're $10.00 here, $5.00 there GD,I'll go back to SD. but i want to ""look & see" first, (test drive)
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Norm, The Enourmous Basset
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join:2001-02-08
San Francisco, CA
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| Construction The CFO is, obviously, a lawyer. They could just as well carve 50 channels out of a present package; call them the "A" lineup; charge and addition price for it, and claim nothing had changed.
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join:2001-06-23
Puyallup, WA
| Paying Extra for HD........ I think having to pay Extra for HD is Bull*hit in the first place....I mean really.
HD is the future of Television. Why should I have to pay through the nose to subsidize something that you will have to do to stay in business anyhow..... 
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