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The Exaflood Isn't Coming After All
Adtran sees carriers adapting to capacity, mostly...
by Karl Bode Monday 27-Jul-2009 tags: competition · business · hardware · bandwidth · networking
Industry analyst Dave Burstein directs our attention to this presentation before the FCC (pdf) by Kevin Schneider, the CTO of network hardware vendor Adtran. Schneider's data is a fairly refreshing departure from the normal hyperbolic exaflood nonsense pushed by carriers to scare politicians into doing their bidding, Schneider noting that the capacity is absolutely there to handle capacity demands (even Michael Jackson). He does see some problems with the shared last mile capacity of WiMax, LTE and coaxial networks (particularly upstream) after 2015, though Burstein claims Comcast told him they'll have 120Mbps upstream DOCSIS 3.0 trials operational this year.

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verolom

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Network Redundancy

What dawned on me is that few of us have a redundant internet access whether in the office or at home. Maybe 3G or WiMax will change that, but so far few people have a wireless card or tether their wireless phone to their home network. By comparison we have a redundant phone service (land line/wireless/VoIP) redundant lights (electrical/generators/batteries/candles), redundant water (tap/bottles/wells), redundant TV (cable/satellite/OTA), redundant transportation (cars/bus/train/boat/bike/walk). I remember dial-up being used as a fail-back connection, but how many people can use dial-up modems with the over-bloated web sites we have these days?

FastiBook

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Re: Network Redundancy

For news i have TV, fios, iPhone 3G, and if all that fails THE CAR RADIO!

The internet is similar to ordering a pizza for delivery, they all have to drive to you, or you drive to them, if the roads are out, no pizza.

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GlobalMind
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Hooray!

Anyone with 1/2 a brain knew this was all crap from the start, so this is no shock.

Broadband isn't a natural resource that's limited or unable to be replenished.

This was always a matter of carriers increasing capacity to meet demand. Afterall, providing connectivity is what they're getting paid (well) for.

Sadly this won't likely stop the spindoctoring on the issue.
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mrkevin
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I'm scared now...

The sky is falling-the sky is falling.

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVnH5D-lWrA

joebarnhart
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Re: I'm scared now...

Ha. What a bunch of cr@p. Gee, if they're so scared of YouTube, why didn't they make this a web page instead of a BANDWIDTH HOGGING VIDEO??!?

mrkevin
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Re: I'm scared now...

I know...isn't that funny
Ga Dawg

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What?

You mean bandwidth is not finite? Say it isn't so!

ThrowDemsOut
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Re: What?

said by Ga Dawg:

You mean bandwidth is not finite? Say it isn't so!
You mean bandwidth is not infinite?

Bandwidth isn't infinite either - because the money to keep increasing it isn't infinite.
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sonicmerlin

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Re: What?

However the money to keep increasing it is quite plentiful. Considering the speeds in other countries are literally 10 to 20 times faster than in the most powerful country on earth, and the US companies providing "broadband" are making record profits in the midst of a global recession, and that across the majority of the country speeds haven't increased for years as these companies took advantage of their monopoly/duopoly positions, I'd say we're far, *far* away from seeing the technological upper limit.
SilverSurfer1

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said by ThrowDemsOut:

Bandwidth isn't infinite either - because the money to keep increasing it isn't infinite.
Apparently you haven't been following along with current events. There appears to be ::PLENTY:: of money available for certain members of the banking industry as evidenced by multiple installment bailout amounts for Citibank et al. The American taxpayer will just be squeezed infinitely to finance private folly. Why would the ISP industry be any different given that the telcos/cable cos. own the Congre$$ional whores representatives part & parcel almost as thoroughly as AIG & Citibank do.

PapaMidnight

join:2009-01-13
Baltimore, MD
said by ThrowDemsOut:

said by Ga Dawg:

You mean bandwidth is not finite? Say it isn't so!
You mean bandwidth is not infinite?

Bandwidth isn't infinite either - because the money to keep increasing it isn't infinite.
I'm sorry but the monetary excuse is overplayed and is, frankly, a crock of bull in my opinion.
Ga Dawg

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said by ThrowDemsOut:

said by Ga Dawg:

You mean bandwidth is not finite? Say it isn't so!
You mean bandwidth is not infinite?

No. I meant what I said.

The argument comes up all the time that we are running out of bandwidth as if bandwidth was a finite resource.

Try to keep up.

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Exaflood = PR stalling tactics

It's all stalling tactics to delay laying new fiber, who will be in turn subjected to Net Neutrality laws.

The longer they keep the old infrastructure the longer they can keep pushing lack of capacity arguments and billing accordingly.
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Quake110
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Ottawa, ON

Re: Exaflood = PR stalling tactics

said by El Quintron:

It's all stalling tactics to delay laying new fiber, who will be in turn subjected to Net Neutrality laws.

The longer they keep the old infrastructure the longer they can keep pushing lack of capacity arguments and billing accordingly.
Yup... like we see here in Canada... until our country joins the third poor countries in term of internet infrastructure.

El Quintron
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Re: Exaflood = PR stalling tactics

Our Country is already far behind some third world countries when it comes to internet, and probably dead last when it comes to mobile broadband.
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NbWY1

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Columbia, MD

!

I CAN FEEL THE FLOOD COMING THROUGH THE FIOS NOW..
WhatNow
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Re: !

And Verizon sold off all the places they had no plans to do Fios or did not bring in a high enough ROI. Most of those areas went from little hope to no hope of or faster internet. It seems the those that have get more and more those that don't get left behind.

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