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It's a start. | |
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| | | | Re: Maybe they made a typo in the criteria Copps has been pointing this out for a while. As has the GAO. Nobody else at the FCC is listening because their currently dysfunctional methodology helps obfuscate failed and non-existent policy. | |
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Banks, OR | Re: Maybe they made a typo in the criteria said by Karl Bode:Copps has been pointing this out for a while. As has the GAO. Nobody else at the FCC is listening because their currently dysfunctional methodology helps obfuscate failed and non-existent policy. Not only that. If they do improve the measurement methodology, and admit that broadband deployment is faltering, under the law (1996 Telcom Act), that would require the FCC to start taking immediate action, intervening in the market.
That's something that Republican's are just not ideologically wired to do, so they'll use any method they can to justify not doing that. | |
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Not only that. If they do improve the measurement methodology, and admit that broadband deployment is faltering, under the law (1996 Telcom Act), that would require the FCC to start taking immediate action, intervening in the market.
Exactly why they've done nothing to improve their data methodology, correct. It would like require regulation, and you've got a deregulatory think tanker heading the FCC.
Somehow they're wired to spend $400 billion on Iraq, yet $100 million for domestic telecom infrastructure improvements here and there is akin to insanity.
Corporate coddling (mergers with no conditions) and endless incentives with no oversight (ERate) is not a policy. It's pay to play politics. | |
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kudos:4 | Then also ask him what the solutions are? In his editorial he admits he has none - except for maybe spending lots of tax dollars with no plan on where the money would go. Pointing out problems is easy - pointing out solutions seems to be beyond him.
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Pointing out problems is easy - pointing out solutions seems to be beyond him.
He's repeatedly suggested that revising data collection methodology is the first step, so we can understand the width and depth of the problem.
I find your commentary about being concerned about "solutions" disingenuous, considering the current policy is simply to do absolutely nothing. | |
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kudos:1 | Re: Maybe they made a typo in the criteria said by Karl Bode: quote:
Pointing out problems is easy - pointing out solutions seems to be beyond him.
He's repeatedly suggested that revising data collection methodology is the first step, so we can understand the width and depth of the problem. I find your commentary about being concerned about "solutions" disingenuous, considering the current policy is simply to do absolutely nothing. Maybe I should find some quotes in the bible that say not having broadband is a sin or not christian or gods will. Run a smear campaign and hire a televangelist, im sure Bush will be forced to pass a mandatory broadband to 100% of USA law or he will lose the Divine Right to rule. Remember you can prove anything from the bible. | |
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| | | | | said by Karl Bode:I find your commentary about being concerned about "solutions" disingenuous, considering the current policy is simply to do absolutely nothing. Sorry Karl, but I agree with him.
Too many times I have dealt with people who say a process is wrong. When asked what they would do, they either offer nothing or a solution with no thought behind it.
"Put up or shut up" is my mantra. If you don't like what I am doing, then show me a better way and be prepared to defend your position. Can't speak for anyone else, but I like making suggestions as long as they don't "throw out the baby with the bathwater." | |
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| Re: Maybe they made a typo in the criteria quote:
Too many times I have dealt with people who say a process is wrong. When asked what they would do, they either offer nothing or a solution with no thought behind it.
And again, he suggests starting with fixing the FCC's botched data collection methodology. You can't shape telecom policy if you don't know the "reality on the ground."
Copps is a little too wishy-washy for me on many votes, and I think his tersely worded pdfs on the FCC website are always too little, too late.
But, I think calling what the FCC is doing now (pandering to corporate interests, aka nothing) a "process" seems generous. | |
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East Lansing, MI | Deborah Tate We had the pleasure of having FCC Commissioner Deborah Taylor Tate on the campus of Michigan State University last week, to give a speech on the current state of their policies. Apparently, she is very happy with the state of broadband deployment, and according to her, BPL will be the way to go for future developments.
Unfortunately, she said that "with 98% of the country having access to broadband" we are in a very good state of affairs. | |
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Regina, SK | Re: Deborah Tate said by quetwo: ... she is very happy with the state of broadband deployment, .... The princess has no cloths. | |
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Marietta, GA | Re: Deborah Tate Well I *was* eating lunch until I saw that hideous pic. *pushes food away* I'm suddenly not so hungry. | |
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As long as there is a Republican majority at the FCC, nothing will be done to encourage real competition and the U.S. will fall further behind the rest of the world. Their methodologies will not change and they will continue to report misleading statistics about the state of broadband in the U.S.
There is some hope with the new FCC commissioner, as he lobbyed for the CLECs before being appointed, but until he actually does something we won't know. | |
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| | | | Re: Deborah Tate He's the token. There is little he can do by himself except issue these diatribes against the policies currently in force. It is easy to point out the obvious when you don't have to be the one who picks up the pieces (or the proverbial baby). | |
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Glen Carbon, IL | Encourage real competition – ha there that is again. Like choosing between wireless, cable and telco are not real choices. yes there is SAT download too and Maybe someday BPL and floating blimps will work, but in the mean time the big 3 are the only game in town. So how is there NOT competition now between those 3 methods? I just don’t get it. Or do you really mean you want the holy grail of 100mg down and 3mg up and until you get that for $40 dollars a month there is no real competition. Never mind who pays for building it – you just want it now – is that what everybody means by real broadband competition? | |
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East Lansing, MI | Re: Deborah Tate said by lvas:Encourage real competition – ha there that is again. Like choosing between wireless, cable and telco are not real choices. yes there is SAT download too and Maybe someday BPL and floating blimps will work, but in the mean time the big 3 are the only game in town. So how is there NOT competition now between those 3 methods? I just don’t get it. Or do you really mean you want the holy grail of 100mg down and 3mg up and until you get that for $40 dollars a month there is no real competition. Never mind who pays for building it – you just want it now – is that what everybody means by real broadband competition? How about us that can't get all three in our area. My area has (some) DSL, and some areas served by Comcast. My home (which is pretty much in the middle of the city), can get a max of 300/300 DSL (thank you Bell for not upgrading our infrastructure since 1950), or well, nothing. | |
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| | my 3.5 cents correct me if i'm wrong, but wasn't it our president that stated his goal to work for universal broadband (broadband for every american household) by 2007, and not the FCC?
from what i'm seeing, the so-called "big/corp business minded" republicans that currently hold the majority in the FCC, seem to have been doing a considerable amount to keep the big names in data service providers from gaining too strong of a hold and monopolizing that market, at the same time, trying to keep up with the goal of "universal broadband"
doesnt hurt to actually read up on what has been accomplished, why our statistics compare that way to other countries, rather than taking an excerpt from an editorial in a newspaper as fact
i find it disturbing that Michael Copps is trying to use that medium as if to say "the american people will be gullible enough to believe that since a reputable author has written an editorial, it must be fact"
some of the facts, but only the parts that support the stance he wants the "gullible" people to support
blah blah blah...ok ok...i think i'm just like putting in way more than my 2 cents....
inflation, so we get 3.5 cents? | |
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| Re: my 3.5 cents said by duckie73:from what i'm seeing, the so-called "big/corp business minded" republicans that currently hold the majority in the FCC, seem to have been doing a considerable amount to keep the big names in data service providers from gaining too strong of a hold and monopolizing that market, at the same time, trying to keep up with the goal of "universal broadband" LOL!! "Keep the big names from gaining too strong a hold"? How? You mean by APPROVING every Cable and Telco merger possible, while BLOCKING the merger of some of their smaller competitors who were trying to expand their bandwidth and licenses holdings to offer a nationwide broadband alternative? (I'm talking Echostar + DirectTV here, something that BOTH the Cable companies and the Bells DID NOT want, and so SURPRISE it's the only thing the FCC comes out against)...
Encourage universal broadband how? Via one Telecom monopoly, if that monopoly feels like it?
From what I'm seeing it seems like what you're seeing is exactly BACKWARDS from what's been going on.
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038xx | said by duckie73:... from what i'm seeing, ... Therein lies the operative? | |
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i just dont like the whole idea of the misuse of media by politicians... | |
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