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join:2004-05-15
Houston, TX
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| Just like a wreck on the Freeway The Internet is a path to locations - if a site is unavailable, thanks to data-backup solutions, it isn't lost forever - even if someone follows the cloud model.
The network can't be perfect - and every time a weakness is exposed (in dramatic fashion like the crashes of YHOO and AMZN this past year or otherwise) it improves.
But you still can't expect perfection, and I don't think it's unreasonable to operate under the assumptiont hat you won't get it. | |
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join:2006-04-27
Kalispell, MT
| Re: I got bit by this IMHO, "cloud computing" is a fad that will fail within the next 3 years. Why? Large enterprises aren't going to touch it--thankfully, there are some existing legal standards that require handling of data in certain ways to protect data, such as financial information (I can only hope those standards get strengthened. Then, you have the added responsibility of proper handling to maintain potential privileges for certain information, should it ever be sought in discovery during litigation. You also must properly handle your intellectual property to be able to protect it. Most corporate clients that I have worked with just aren't going to park their data anywhere other than in-house servers.
Without enterprises coming onboard, this will remain a niche market with individual consumers as clients. Even with ad-based revenue, for this type of service to survive it will need to charge those individual consumers at some point, and, well I don't see most people being willing to pay. (I also suspect you're going to see data emerging about identity theft via hacking of these type of services.) | |
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NetAdmin
join:2008-05-22
| Re: I got bit by this said by voipdabbler  :IMHO, "cloud computing" is a fad that will fail within the next 3 years. Why? Large enterprises aren't going to touch it--thankfully, there are some existing legal standards that require handling of data in certain ways to protect data, such as financial information (I can only hope those standards get strengthened. Without enterprises coming onboard, this will remain a niche market with individual consumers as clients. You've completely forgotten about small business, of which there are, from the number I last heard, several million. While you correctly point out that large business won't adopt cloud computing widely, small businesses are going to be the biggest users of it. Right off the bat, the can save a good bit on upfront licensing fees. It also makes life much easier when adding new users and systems as the business grows - all the new machine needs is an OS and a web browser.
However, for cloud computing to really catch on, there needs to be a vast improvement in the ability of the applications offered to match the performance and flexibility of applications that typically run on a desktop - databases, spreadsheets, etc.
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AnonProxy
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join:2001-05-12
ß | I would wonder if they did this on purpose, if by chance there was a threshold of use that put you into the "mess with him" queue so that you buy the software. | |
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Skeedatl
Ah, push it - push it real good
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join:2007-12-26
The Cloud | Re: I got bit by this I don't think so. I think they just had issues that plague all services (whether it's them, online banking or any other site). | |
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CarterStClai
X-Out The W
join:2002-04-17
Sugar Land, TX | A virtual machine might make sense for you. | |
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Skeedatl
Ah, push it - push it real good
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join:2007-12-26
The Cloud | Re: I got bit by this I thought about that but saw one of the dirt cheap Dell server deals in the hot deals forum. We already had a W2K3 SBS license so it seem the easiest route. | |
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Dryvlyne
Far Beyond Driven
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join:2004-08-30
Newark, OH
| Ironic... I find it somewhat ironic that we went from the days of mainframe (aka centralized) computing, to distributed computing and now it's coming back around again to "cloud" (aka centralized) computing again. Why would anyone want to go back to the days of a more centralized system again where the risk of a single point of failure grow exponentially? Thanks, but I'll stick with my Personal Ccomputer and client-side software as much as possible.
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NetAdmin
join:2008-05-22
| Re: Ironic... said by Dryvlyne :Why would anyone want to go back to the days of a more centralized system again where the risk of a single point of failure grow exponentially? A MYRIAD of reasons... Single install/update/upgrade point... Better security... Easier license tracking... It increases the useful lifespan of the client system... Lower utility costs (assuming the use of thin clients)...
As for the single point of failure concerns, there are lots of solutions that can lessen or eliminate those problems. For example, VM clustering with failover comes to mind.
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phxmark
What Country Are We Living In?
join:2000-12-27
Glendale, AZ
| Re: Ironic... Clustering is still not perfect. The cluster system our central office uses, which is remote, has issues constantly. Especially when they don't sync up properly. The cluster is at two different sites connected by DS3 and they are constantly not synced. It is managed and hosted by an outside company. My boss thought it would be cost saving and increase our availability for the system, but now he is under the gun from higher ups with the issues of this system. Ended up costing two to three times and availability has gone from 98% to 92%. Makes the whole IT department look bad. I am not for cloud computing at this time. Still too many bugs to work out.
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join:2008-05-22
| Re: Ironic... said by phxmark :Clustering is still not perfect. The cluster system our central office uses, which is remote, has issues constantly. What are you guys using for your setup ?
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phxmark
What Country Are We Living In?
join:2000-12-27
Glendale, AZ
| Re: Ironic... It is a hosted set up. We don't manage it. My boss thought it would be cheaper to use a hosting company so we don't have to manage or purchase hardware or operating systems.
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AnonProxy
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ß | Simple answer VAX/VMS RULES! | |
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