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The ISP Clamp Down on VPNs, Proxies has Begun
by Karl Bode 12:20PM Friday Sep 06 2013
In the UK, where ISPs are now being forced to impose Internet filters to block everything from BitTorrent websites to porn, some carriers are going the extra mile and taking this mandate to mean they should block VPNs as well. After ISPs signed a voluntary code of conduct requiring they block all porn by default (unless you're in Parliament, where viewing porn is apparently all the rage during free time), some UK ISPs have started blocking tools allowing users to bypass those filters:
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...VPN provider iPredator is already blocked under the “adult filter” of some, if not all, mobile providers. TorrentFreak has seen communication between the mobile provider GiffGaff and iPredator which makes it clear that the VPN’s website is blocked because it allows kids to bypass the age restrictions.

"[...] websites or services that offer, inter alia, a method for younger members to access over 18 content, without age verification; such as VPN services, are blocked [...]," the provider explained.
If ISPs are to be liable for the filters working, they'll obviously be encouraged to take steps against tools allowing users to bypass those restrictions -- illustrating the slippery slope critics often bring up when discussing filters. The same problem may rear its head in Australia, where reports this week surfaced that some in the government are eager to follow the UK's lead in opt-out filtering of the Internet's naught bits.

With the entertainment industry's six strikes initiative not impacting piracy much here in the States, a broader assault on VPNs, proxies, and other tools used to avoid copyright infringement monitoring seems inevitable on this side of the pond as well.

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FFH5
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Logic; something illegal; make tools to bypass law illegal

Is anyone even mildly surprised that when something is made illegal, that tools advertised as being able to subvert the law would also not be made illegal?
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Re: Logic; something illegal; make tools to bypass law illegal

Who needed VPNs anyway. All they're used for is villainy.

FFH5
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Re: Logic; something illegal; make tools to bypass law illegal

said by Karl Bode:

Who needed VPNs anyway. All they're used for is villainy.

I doubt any of this will affect VPNs used by private corporations for their employees. But public VPNs and proxies could be in a fight to remain in business.
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90115534
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Re: Logic; something illegal; make tools to bypass law illegal

What is the difference ?
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Re: Logic; something illegal; make tools to bypass law illegal

Corporate VPNs are typically used to allow a user access to non-public networks.
Public VPNs are typically used for rerouting traffic (i.e. game providers had these to bypass the milk run to their site for lower latency). It can be used for other useful items such as accessing 'local' programming (eg. accessing Canandian TV programs that are only available in Canada if your VPN has a presence/proxy there).

Companies like Google would hate proxy/vpns as they skew their data harvesting/collection. Eg. Most residential IPs are geotagged. Using a proxy would really skew that.

Basically - it makes it harder for big brother/big corporate to collect off of you, but can be lucrative for the VPN/proxy provider.
Kearnstd
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Re: Logic; something illegal; make tools to bypass law illegal

I am sure to some weird people using a VPN to get around region based programming blocks should also be illegal.

*Those weird people being entertainment industry shills.
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Skippy25

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I am sure his question was more to the difference in the software/usage pattern.

"Commerical" VPNs use the same encryption/encapsulation method and ports as "residential" VPNs.
Expand your moderator at work

KrK
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Re: Logic; something illegal; make tools to bypass law illegal

I doubt this will affect VPNs use by private corporations, the power elite, politicians and their special friends. But public VPNs and proxies would be out of business.
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said by Karl Bode:

All they're used for is villainy.

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axus

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Since when is porn illegal?

90115534
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Re: Logic; something illegal; make tools to bypass law illegal

Porn has always been illegal.

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Re: Logic; something illegal; make tools to bypass law illegal

It has?
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Re: Logic; something illegal; make tools to bypass law illegal

Maybe he should have said "Why is porn legal?" instead to get a different response.

Here's one sarcastic reason: Without porn, rape activities may increase as a result of a loss of outlet for adults to let loose on.

KrK
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Yeah, like CSS.

KrK
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Logic: Take that which is legal, and make it illegal, therefore allowing you to persecute people as criminals... and for what goal? The God of the USA: $$$$
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r81984
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Every major company that has remote or traveling employees has a VPN setup.
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90115534
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Don't care

I don't use one so I don't care.

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Re: Don't care

Then why did you waste your time posting?
Next time you at are a Starbucks I'll try make sure that I don't share your Facebook and twitter passwords with the other patrons.

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Re: Don't care

I don't go to Starbucks.

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Re: Don't care

How about airport / gentlemen's club / child day care center?

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Re: Don't care

Nope. Why ?

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Re: Don't care

Any time you use public WiFi, it could be WiFi at a local library, a restaurant, gas station, McDonalds, college campus, or anywhere else that provides free public WiFi, you run the risk of sending your information "in the clear" on the WiFi link.
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90115534
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Re: Don't care

What about when you use 3G or 4G ?

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Re: Don't care

If you use 3G or 4G, then no; your data is encrypted over the airwaves until it hits the cell phone tower and from what we've learned in the past, once that data is in the hands of the carrier all bets are off because the NSA has a connection that they are funneling all your data into.
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said by 90115534:

I don't use one so I don't care.

Right, only people who are up to no good hide their identity! So I assume that you won't mind posting your real name address and telephone number. After all, you don't have anything to hide, do you?
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Re: Don't care

and yet I don't care for Google building a Psyc profile on me to better target ads as they share this information with various police and other government agencies. Of course they don't give a fsck if I'm suicidal as it just means one less peon who's at the public trough

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said by 90115534:

I don't use one so I don't care.

People just won't learn from history.

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First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me.
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Slippery Slope

First they came for the child porn suspects and I said nothing because I'm not a pervert. Then they came for the terrorist suspects and I said nothing because I am not a terrorist. Then they came for the copyright scofflaws and I said nothing because I am not a pirate. Then they came for the porn, the free press, the VPNs, and everything else that is or enables free speech, effectively turning the Internet into nothing more than a government white-list of corporate content.
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Re: Slippery Slope

Very true. 1984 here we come.

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Bye Bye Internet

Bye Bye Free Speech...

•••

Corehhi

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Not a surprise

Actually I'm surprised it took so long for governments to head down this path.

Probitas

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there is only one thing left to do

Round up all suspected dissidents and shoot them. Back when there WAS no internet, they made up their own handouts and distributed from hand to hand. The only way to stop that is shoot people. I really think this needs to get reigned in before the internet becomes useless for most people. I doubt most people are going to pay to use a system that only offers advertisements and paid programming. Oh wait, they are that dumb, it's called TELEVISION.

90115534
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Aaryn from Big Brother 15 makes that place look so racist

Though then again it is racist and horrible. Just like Aaryn.

I always hated her.

toby
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Re: Aaryn from Big Brother 15 makes that place look so racist

said by 90115534:

Though then again it is racist and horrible. Just like Aaryn.

I always hated her.

Why do you have so much hate within you?
That's not good.

90115534
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Re: Aaryn from Big Brother 15 makes that place look so racist

I don't have hate within me. Just don't like people who are racist.

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info wars

this site is turning into infowars.com

clssclmu

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Does this mean no first run Downton Abby on Sept 22? LOL!

whoa

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Was this prophetic?

»www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/2 ··· w/230292
Made Apr 8th, 2005.

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUep-4v_ ··· p-4v_M9k

ohreally

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It should probably be pointed out that...

The filters that the mobile networks use have been in place for *years* - that they are an opt-out service is a coincidence (and in many cases, you are automatically opted out if you take a contract which requires the account holder to be 18+ anyway). They have very little to do with the recent UK govt announcement, which doesn't appear to have progressed any further than hot air.