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University of Washington studies the Internet's dark corners....
(old news - 03:11PM Wednesday Apr 09 2008)
tags: bandwidth · world · networking
Tipped by ytsejammer39 See Profile
"At any given moment, a portion of Internet traffic ends up being routed into information "black holes," says research from the University of Washington. "These are situations where advertised paths exist to the destination, but messages - a request to visit a Web site, an outgoing e-mail - get lost along the way." Since September 17, 2007, the Hubble Project has operated continuously to find persistent Internet black holes as they occur. Since the project started, they've found 883,139 black holes and reachability problems.
In the most recent quarter-hourly round, completed at 11:29 PDT, 04/09/2008, Hubble issued 86,327 traceroutes to 3,231 prefixes it identified as likely to be experiencing problems (of 78,772 total prefixes monitored by the system). Of these, it found 1,474 prefixes to be unreachable from all its vantage points and 1,379 to be reachable from some vantage points and not others.
This overview has additional information. Also see stories today from both Dailytech and Slashdot.

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ElJay

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Cue John Barry music

"Increase power to maximum. We are going THROUGH!"
permalink · 2008-04-09 14:55:07 · Reply to this

phrolic
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Re: Cue John Barry music

^-- what he said. --^
permalink · 2008-04-09 15:35:46 · Reply to this

Transmaster
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Re: Cue John Barry music

There was only two good things about the Movie "Black hole" the end and the sound track.
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Send a prayer to Allah, eat Beans.
permalink · 2008-04-09 19:19:17 · Reply to this

blueeyesm

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Re: Cue John Barry music

..and the robots...
permalink · 2008-04-11 10:29:53 · Reply to this

Transmaster
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Re: Cue John Barry music

said by blueeyesm See Profile :

..and the robots...
Except for the R2D2 rip-offs this is true
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permalink · 2008-04-11 14:45:56 · Reply to this

FicmanS
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clubs:		 Flame On... Full Speed ahead...
permalink · 2008-04-09 16:21:00 · Reply to this

ahulett
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Hmm...

I thought I replied to this earlier, but I don't see my post. I wonder where it went...
permalink · 2008-04-09 15:19:14 · Reply to this
firewire9999

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Re: Hmm...

NSA is currently reviewing it. Don't worry they will get back to you.
permalink · 2008-04-09 15:20:33 · Reply to this

anonomous

@comcast.net		 It might of been swallowed by a black hole!
permalink · 2008-04-09 16:31:43 · Reply to this

mod_wastrel

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Help!

Daleks ate my packets!
permalink · 2008-04-09 15:27:48 · Reply to this

MrMoody
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4.1%

So, 4.1% of all the routers on the internet are malfunctioning. Sounds about right.
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permalink · 2008-04-09 15:34:25 · Reply to this

LaZ3R
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It's not a black hole...

If they were... they'd have gravity... and that'd mean the internet would be all sucked up by now since it can suck up anything including light itself. GG
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permalink · 2008-04-09 15:55:12 · Reply to this

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Re: It's not a black hole...

said by LaZ3R See Profile :

If they were... they'd have gravity... and that'd mean the internet would be all sucked up by now since it can suck up anything including light itself. GG
But you need to understand that the dump trucks have and anti gravity thingy, that resists most of these black hole thingies. ????
permalink · 2008-04-09 16:18:46 · Print · Reply to this

Flibettigibbet

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Nice pic, but wouldn't the evil visage of Maximillian be more appropriate here?

Nah, just save that for Comcast posts...
permalink · 2008-04-09 16:07:02 · Reply to this

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Re: VINCENT

said by Flibettigibbet :

Nice pic, but wouldn't the evil visage of Maximillian be more appropriate here?

Nah, just save that for Comcast posts...
your learning
permalink · 2008-04-09 18:25:07 · Reply to this
t0KE

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Why not call for a credit or complain to your ISP?

I'm surprised that no one has posted a thread or follow up article detailing their experience where they called Comcast and complained about this, demanded credits, etc etc.

This seems like a perfect article for the Broadband Reports service "gurus" to translate into filth blaming ISPs/traffic shaping/Ted Stevens for "black holes".

Seriously... I mean this is someone/some companies fault and they must be ruthlessly harassed about it?? RIGHT!?!
permalink · 2008-04-09 17:02:42 · Reply to this

KrK
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Re: Why not call for a credit or complain to your ISP?



Do they pay you to do it, or do you do it for free?
permalink · 2008-04-09 17:36:46 · Reply to this
t0KE

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Re: Why not call for a credit or complain to your ISP?

Who is "they"?
What is "it"?
What currency?

permalink · 2008-04-09 18:04:38 · Reply to this

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permalink · 2008-04-09 18:01:07 · Reply to this

Doctor Four
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Lamest attempt at sock puppetry I've ever seen:
permalink · 2008-04-09 18:08:45 · Reply to this
t0KE

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Re: Why not call for a credit or complain to your ISP?

Seriously... so if I said I'm not even in/from the USA and the only reason I wrote "Comcast" is because the post immediately previous did, would that satisfy all your off the mark "analysis" of me being some paid industry hack?

I mean, even an Admin could probably confirm that I'm in Canada and all the posts that came from this username in the last 5 years are from Canada.

But why do that, when wild conjecture and finger pointing are so much fun!

Ironically, this really fits nicely with the substance of my original post... too many here are quick to judge and prone to theatrics.
permalink · 2008-04-09 18:29:21 · Print · Reply to this

KrK
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Re: Why not call for a credit or complain to your ISP?

said by t0KE See Profile :

too many here are quick to judge and prone to theatrics.
I agree with you. Yes, yes you are.
permalink · 2008-04-14 04:48:36 · Reply to this

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We need more black holes

What we need is more black holes on the Internet.

I have a collection of IP addresses/blocks in my iptables IP block list that I will donate to any organization who wishes to bury them permanently in a black hole.
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We can never have enough of nature.
We need to witness our own limits transgressed, and some life pasturing freely where we never wander.
Test your firewall.
permalink · 2008-04-09 18:20:05 · Reply to this

fireflier
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How much?

I wonder how much spam gets sucked into these black holes?

By some strange internet cosmic quirk, spam is probably underrepresented in traffic that gets lost.
permalink · 2008-04-09 19:24:58 · Reply to this
patcat88

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repossess

Any IPs that are blackholed are IPs that could be given back to the IANA. Actually, they should be seized. Nothing like unroutable public IPs allocated to a organization, with the only access to the internet from the organization is through a proxy server.
permalink · 2008-04-09 20:37:08 · Reply to this
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