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 |  KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
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| Re: American Innovation said by josephf:American innovation at its finest.
Sadly, it is something we have squandered away. Not entirely, but it's now at a much reduced level when examined globally.
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| | | | Re: American Innovation Much of the product lines coming out of the rest of the world is built upon American innovation. | |
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| | | KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
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| Re: American Innovation said by josephf:Much of the product lines coming out of the rest of the world is built upon American innovation.
Valid point... and yet think about that. They produce, and have the manufacturing base. We then import it to consume. Their economies get stronger and wealthier, benefiting them greatly. We become a service industry economy, buying everything on credit. Hmmm.
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kudos:5 | said by josephf:Much of the product lines coming out of the rest of the world is built upon American innovation.
And much of it is stolen by the Chinese thru industrial espionage and flagrant ignoring of patents. | |
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Salem, OR | Re: American Innovation said by Linklist:And much of it is stolen by the Chinese thru industrial espionage and flagrant ignoring of patents.
Yeah as a country, we want China to respect our patents, but as individuals, we feel free to ignore copyright and pirate whatever the heck we want.
Isn't intellectual property hypocrisy great!
[@Linklist: please note this is not a personal attack on you -- just a general commentary that came to mind after reading your post, which I agree with, by the way] | |
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Glen Head, NY | said by KrK:said by josephf:American innovation at its finest.
Sadly, it is something we have squandered away. Not entirely, but it's now at a much reduced level when examined globally. We must be doing something right. Other countries, such as China, are still falling all over themselves to steal as much intellectual property from us as they can. If we weren't innovating, there wouldn't be anything to steal.
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| | | KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
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Tulsa, OK | Re: American Innovation Yes, absolutely.... but we are flagging while they are ramping up. | |
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Glen Head, NY | Re: American Innovation said by KrK:Yes, absolutely.... but we are flagging while they are ramping up.
Back when VAX computers where king of supermini industry and the Russians were our enemy, Digital Equipment Corporation had fun knowing there would be industrial espionage: »micro.magnet.fsu.edu/creatures/p···ans.html
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kudos:7 | Quote: quote:
"They promote productivity, they make people more comfortable, they make them feel safe and all of those things."
and it makes the business for "independents" and Johns much much easier as well as illegal drug sales. 
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| I thought the cell phone was as old as me The first commercial cell phone launch was in October of 1983 and it ironically happened to launch on the day I was born. That was when Bell System (under the name of AMPS) and US Cellular launched cellular service.
Two month later the Bell System was broken up. | |
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| | | AMPS Mobile telephone service predates AMPS. | |
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Frederick, MD | Re: AMPS said by josephf:Mobile telephone service predates AMPS.
Right. Maybe cell phones are 40 years old today, but mobile phone services goes way back before that. I remember when you picked up a telephone receiver (mounted under the dash in your car) and hit some buttons and told an operator what number you wanted to be connected to.
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of···e_phones | |
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| | | | | Re: AMPS There've been radio-telephones for a long time.
The seamless handoff is what makes cellular phones so much more than mobile phones.
It's interesting that American English has preserved the "cellular" terminology, while the rest of the world uses "mobile." May have something to do with the fact that the US had a better pre-cellular mobile network. | |
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| | | Re: I thought the cell phone was as old as me To clarify, 40 years ago Motorola placed the first prototype test call with a portable mobile telephone. 30 years is when such a product became first commercially available. | |
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Salem, OR | Re: I thought the cell phone was as old as me said by josephf:To clarify, 40 years ago Motorola placed the first prototype test call with a portable mobile telephone. 30 years is when such a product became first commercially available.
And you can thank the FCC for the ten year delay in approving the necessary licenses. | |
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| Saw Martin Cooper on TV interview lately... Cooper claimed that he called his AT&T competitive engineering counterpart, to rub it in. Cooper told him that Motorola had invented a handheld phone, that you could walk around with. The design above was the winner in a Motorola engineering team contest. Motorola designed/built the innards AFTER the outside body was designed.
TV segment claimed that Cooper called from a NYC street, near the AT&T building. Reporters were alongside to witness the conversation.
AT&T guy claimed later that he could not remember the conversation with Martin Cooper. | |
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Waterbury, CT | Re: Saw Martin Cooper on TV interview lately... That's the correct version of the story. AT+T engineering in those days was Bell Labs (which is now a part of Alcatel Lucent) Motorola and Bell Labs both had some amazing talent that was always very competitive with each other. | |
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Waterbury, CT | To correct Karls Story... The first call was made from Mr. Cooper (at motorola) to a friend at Bell Labs. (not to a fellow Motorola engineer as stated in Karls story). The competition in those days between Motorola and Bell labs was fierce and it undoubtedly was a friendly jab to say "look what we managed to do before you".
In any event..great history about the wonders of technology. | |
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| | Motorola Cell Phone In recent months, I have seen several accounts in the press discussing Martin Cooper's role in the development of the cell phone. I worked for Martin at Motorola Communications and Industrial Electronics (C&IE) from November 1959 to June 1960. Motorola was developing the latest in a series of two way radio products of ever smaller size. These developments were part of an evolutionary process that led eventually to the cell phone. I was fresh out of school and my contributions were of no particular significance.
But let me tell you about something I observed on a daily basis at Motorola's plant in Chicago. Motorola C&IE had two black employees. They tended an incinerator on the opposite side of the parking lot from the plant. They were not allowed into the building. Not to take a break or eat lunch. Not to use the rest rooms. Not to warm up in the middle of Chicago's sub zero winters. And my fellow employees would take their breaks at the second floor windows overlooking that parking lot, and they would make insulting, racist comments about the two black employees.
I went to human relations, and in the most non-confrontational way that I could muster I asked why Motorola did not employ on the basis of ability, without regard to race. And at my six month review, I was terminated.
You don't have to take my word concerning Motorola's employment policies. In September of 1980, Motorola agreed to pay up to $10 million in back pay to some 11,000 blacks who were denied jobs over a seven-year period and to institute a $5 million affirmative action program, according to the federal Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.
I have a question for Martin Cooper. Marty, what did you ever do to challenge the blatant, toxic racial discrimination at Motorola?
Robert Gilchrist Huenemann, M.S.E.E.
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