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Record Sale drop primarily not p2p related
(old news - 04:12PM Monday Nov 08 2004)
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The Economist (via Slashdot) notes that according to the industry's own research, roughly two-thirds to three-quarters of record sales declines has nothing to do with internet piracy. The factors more responsible were physical CD piracy and resale, increased competition on store shelves, and the fact a good portion of the music simply isn't very good.

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NO SHIT!

quote:
The factors more responsible were physical CD piracy and resale, increased competition on store shelves, and the fact a good portion of the music simply isn't very good.
LIKE NO SHIT!

Did it really take a study like this to tell them that?

Oh, and this is the first post, so booyah to the "first post idiots". This first post is actually right on the money, topic-wise that is. Follow my example.

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Re: NO SHIT!

I think the big story here is that they finally admit it. We knew all of that before.

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said by trparky See Profile:

quote:
The factors more responsible were physical CD piracy and resale, increased competition on store shelves, and the fact a good portion of the music simply isn't very good.
LIKE NO SHIT!

Did it really take a study like this to tell them that?
Best. Post. Ever. :p
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I totally agree with the music simily isn't very good part. Most of the CD's I buy are ones that have been out for years and I've slowly been buying them to replace my vinyl and 8-tracks.
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Re: NO SHIT!

quote:
I totally agree with the music simily isn't very good part. Most of the CD's I buy are ones that have been out for years and I've slowly been buying them to replace my vinyl and 8-tracks.

This is the one instance (i think) where since you've already paid for the rights to the music once, you can now download the mp3's legally, no?

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Re: NO SHIT!

Bingo.

It's just that the guy uploading them has no right to do so.
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Re: NO SHIT!

It took them this long to figure that out? whos running the RIAA a bunch of 4 year olds?

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Re: NO SHIT!

said by Deathsadvoca See Profile:

Who is running the RIAA? A bunch of 4 year olds?
Multiply that by a few billion and you'll get the age right.
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Uh, I'm hoping that's sarcasm, but just in case you're really wondering...

Of course they know their music is shit, but there are certain benefits to chalking declining sales up to piracy, namely that it's politically easier to get more and more restrictive laws passed. The current music business is based on the model of selling CDs, which involves infrastructure that record companies are set up to provide. But wouldn't they embrace music download services like iTunes? You'd think so, since they can then cut out the cost of physical CD production, but then why are they trying to sabotage them by attempting to jack up prices to levels that would approach that of a physical CD? Well, would you pay $10 for an album off iTunes as opposed to $15 for a CD? Maybe, even though the downloaded files aren't CD quality. Now, would you pay $14 for that download? Maybe not, since for just a bit more, you can get the CD, with better sound, plus a physical product. Suddenly, iTunes's business model collapses before it can really take off. But it's already taken off, hasn't it? Not quite. You'll know when it takes off when a popular musician shit-cans their record company and starts selling directly via iTunes or a service like it. That's what the record companies don't want to start happening.

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said by Tikker_LoS See Profile:

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I totally agree with the music simily isn't very good part. Most of the CD's I buy are ones that have been out for years and I've slowly been buying them to replace my vinyl and 8-tracks.

This is the one instance (i think) where since you've already paid for the rights to the music once, you can now download the mp3's legally, no?
I'm not sure. I do have a lot of vinyl records, but all my 8-tracks got eaten by the 8-track POS player years ago. My post was more of joke than anything, especially the 8-track part.

sdghty

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Exactly, I replaced all but about 50 of my vinyl records before it got to the point where it was no longer worth bothering to look for the rest. And that was years ago, by which time I was already tired of 20 new albums to maybe find one that worth it. Of course when the one radio station left that wasn't a slave to the playlists died, that killed radio for me along with buying new CD's.

And no, I never downloaded any "music". I believe the industry killed itself many years ago and suspect many people were just trying to get the music at it's true value.

If they'd gotten smart and offered downloads for a few cents each, they might have turned things around. But now the've generated too much bad publicity by making themselves look blinded by greed.

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quote:
The factors more responsible were physical CD piracy and resale, increased competition on store shelves, and the fact a good portion of the music simply isn't very good.
LIKE NO SHIT!

Did it really take a study like this to tell them that?

Oh, and this is the first post, so booyah to the "first post idiots". This first post is actually right on the money, topic-wise that is. Follow my example.
Ding Ding Ding!!!! We have a winner!

I wonder if this study was handing a teen a pack of smokes and a condom for an opinion over the newest Eminem album.

"Dude, it like sucks OMGLOLWTF"

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said by trparky See Profile:

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The factors more responsible were physical CD piracy and resale, increased competition on store shelves, and the fact a good portion of the music simply isn't very good.
LIKE NO SHIT!

Did it really take a study like this to tell them that?

Oh, and this is the first post, so booyah to the "first post idiots". This first post is actually right on the money, topic-wise that is. Follow my example.
LIKE NO SHIT! I download the old Music it good SHIT.:D

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Well congratulations! The music industry has realized that if they make crap and market crap, that does not equal that millions of people will buy crap.

Note to RIAA, not everyone is stealing music. The reason royalties have fallen into the toilet is that record companies are producing total crap and I, speaking for myself, can find better things to spend our money on other than crap.

Try working on getting better talent and some more diverse music that people may actually get interested in instead of some packaged marketed steamy sack of crap that you call music!
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Re: NO SHIT!

Try working on getting better talent and some more diverse music that people may actually get interested in instead of some packaged marketed steamy sack of crap that you call music!

Yeah, sex doesn't sell everything forever. People at the RIAA are complete morons. Plain and simple. How come it seems like the bigger the company, the dumber it is run? To many college educated, book smart, idiots that know nothing about the real world.

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said by trparky See Profile:

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The factors more responsible were physical CD piracy and resale, increased competition on store shelves, and the fact a good portion of the music simply isn't very good.
LIKE NO SHIT!

Did it really take a study like this to tell them that?
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said by trparky See Profile:

oh, and this is the first post, so booyah to the "first post idiots". This first post is actually right on the money, topic-wise that is. Follow my example.
And since you said "first post", I'll include you in that group.
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said by trparky See Profile:

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The factors more responsible were physical CD piracy and resale, increased competition on store shelves, and the fact a good portion of the music simply isn't very good.
Amen to that! The record companies have been producing disposable pop trash and grunge retreads for years now. It's sickening. I haven't bought a CD in five years, and it's not due to P2P apps. Music today truly sucks.
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said by trparky See Profile:

quote:
The factors more responsible were physical CD piracy and resale, increased competition on store shelves, and the fact a good portion of the music simply isn't very good.
LIKE NO SHIT!

Did it really take a study like this to tell them that?

Oh, and this is the first post, so booyah to the "first post idiots". This first post is actually right on the money, topic-wise that is. Follow my example.
plus there is one thing not mentioned, the fact that cd's cost so much .. i mean i can either buy the new prince cd for 13 bucks or a brand new dvd for around 15 .. what do you think i am going to buy ?

(my dvd collection is at 15 right now ... cd's 2)
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Re: NO SHIT!

i have been buying or downloading underground shit (bands with no record labels) pretty much todays music is remakes of yesterdays but just crapier...i bought all the cd's i want so who cares anymore

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STOP THE PRESSES! The music SUCKS!!!
No sheet Sherlock! How come such an obvious answer took to this route?

Since the late 1990's, music took a turn from mediocre to just plain crap.

It is not about competition. It is about what the record labels are shoveling to us.
It reeks of horse crap and it is packaged to look like a sexy babe or a baddas dude. Either way, it is terrible. AND THEY MAKE MONEY OFF IT!!!
Kids buy it like candy and think it is great.

I am a musician. So lets critique it....hmm
Monotone, artificial, repetitious, lots of moaning. Hmm. They all say "baby" or "Honey" or that "ohhhhahhhh"warble that sounds like someone put a finger on a record player. Sounds like the "other artist" (God knows there are so many wannabees) only they added some skritch scratch drum noise. And that obnoxious BASS BOOOOM that sucks the air out of your lungs and is strong enough to unbolt wheels! WTF is that? MUSIC?

more like NOISE!!!!

This is such a sore subject for me. Not because of the suck azz music but because the essence of being a musician was forsaken over this "noise".

Many professional musicians whom spent hours, months, years creating wonderful masterpieces have seen those dreams fade away over some pretty faced, big boobed nobody from nowhere that does not know what b-flat is.

I'd rather buy an enema and enjoy the crap before I pluck down $18 bucks for crap I won't enjoy.

I hope the business goes under..REALLY! I hope Sony, Columbia, WB, BMG and all the multinationals all go under!
Or else get their heads out their asses.

Last year, we had a reprieve and a nice scent of fresh air when Nora Jones won the Best Song, Album and new Artist award. I laughed my ass off so hard when the losers looked at her and said "whaaa"? Yepper!

But alas....we got nothing this year and next year, we get another shaft.

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Re: NO SHIT!

Ironically, opinions like yours that this newfangled music is just noise are exactly what my parents say my grandparents said about the beatles...

I always find it shocking when musicians can't tolerate music that they don't like.

As has been said before, it would be a perfect world if everything could be unique and individual, just like you.
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Re: NO SHIT!

But if you look at it, The Beatles in the eyes of our parents was different than the Glen Miller stuff. It was loud rock and roll. But not noise per se.
But it was music made by musicians and not by a Yamaha machine.

Because I am a musician, I listen to all generes. From Metal to Jazz, Latin to New Age, Pop to Polka (my name should be a hint). I even love bluegrass! But I like a little bit of a variance within the styles. Unfortunately Hip Hop and the mainstream top 40's of today all sound cookie-cutterish. AND most are non-musicians.
Just someone with a nice voice or jiggly tits being exploited.

It is the same formula. No artists taking risks, no producers willing to front the money.

Go to FM radio and scan the dial. Tell me what you hear.
Sounds all the same.

You are right in a sense. But tell me what do you like about whats out there now. Please do.

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Beatles aren't noise.

Download songs from Killswitch Engage and you will know what repetitive "noise" is. Rap is repetitive, they all sound the same, and have a curse word every 2-3 words.

All the songs I have are because of no particular artist, because they sound quite pleasant to my ear and aren't just random guitar string banging with the amp all the way up times a million.
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Re: NO SHIT!

said by redxii See Profile:

Beatles aren't noise.

Download songs from Killswitch Engage and you will know what repetitive "noise" is. Rap is repetitive, they all sound the same, and have a curse word every 2-3 words.

All the songs I have are because of no particular artist, because they sound quite pleasant to my ear and aren't just random guitar string banging with the amp all the way up times a million.
i actually like killswitch:) (although could just be because of the metal kick im on lately,who knows )

i've known for along time p2p hasnt been the decline of record sales, i personally own 350 cd's not including my 3 box sets, plus i have around 50 albums on vinyl that i cant find on cd, and i still download music.
i dont listen to the radio,i gave up on that years ago(although i do listen to talk radio,but thats another topic).i mostly find new music thru friends or just searching the web.
my car stereo is a sony mp3 deck, so i just burn what i want to hear that day or week or whatever, when im driving.
the music industry needs to wake up,its not that we dont like buying cd's, we just dont like most of that crap your recording onto them.

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making music on a computer takes skill too...... sure you cant really do liveact but you CAN try to add some real instruments playing your own shit and do some live "mixing" and add various things to as well.... that takes alot of skill imo to do that..... and yes a nice bass IS music.... however the usual commercial crap we're seeing such as the commercial rap, pop etc truly sucks =(

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Re: NO SHIT!

Yes, computerized music takes skill. So does typing a form letter or posting a DSLR reply, doesn't make it art or music necessarily.

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Well, like the other guy said, rock and roll, while not fitting the "popular" classification of that era, still classified as music at basic levels. It had melody, harmony, and rhythm, all played with instruments that require more than a pulse to play. Now, with rap, it does not qualify as music by ANY musician's definition. It has only rhythm (barely) and poetry. It could be classified as art (though I would debate even that), but certainly not music. Even today's "rock" from bands like Nickleback has about as much creativity as a room full of accountants. It's always the exact same thing over and over again. Oh, and most of what's out there today is remade from older songs. My sister is always shocked when I point out the recognizable melody from an eighties song embedded in something she just heard on the Top 20 station.

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Ugh, 99C for a britney spears tune.. Nope sorry, don't think so. I only buy music of artists I support.. someetimes is the physical packaging/coverart that is the novelty because anyone can download the music now... Some value-added features must be "phyical property, not zeros and ones"
The only way people buy is on the merits of the product......... which has gone into the gutter lately, with few exceptions

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Well now they

Admitted it now they are going to have to deal with it...

Unfortunately, I am not a

• brittney spears
• Christina Agulera (sp?)
• anything with the last name of "moore"
• any type of "boy" band

fan...

I do like eminem (don't ask please) and bands like nickelback, seether and others. I am a Metallica, and STP fan.

Techsponge... Thumbs up... I just about spit up soda when I read that..

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But you can bet...

they will try and bury this info as much as possible from the main stream media and still say it is all because of P2P technology.

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Amen

Yes, it's about time. Maybe instead of just pointing the finger they should get some more better artists.
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What About Boycotts?

Some folks may have decided not to support the RIAA by refusing to purchase their offerings.

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Well Hello Mr. Obvious....!!

Gee, you think that the "industry would actually LISTEN to their populace considering the Music Biz is all about LISTENING!!

said by BBR Article:
The factors more responsible were physical CD piracy and resale, increased competition on store shelves, and the fact a good portion of the music simply isn't very good.
We've been saying the music suxors for waaaaay too long now. And that P2P DOES NOT "hurt" the industry as much as the street corners of Taiwan where a Boxed Bon Jovi set is $10.
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Gee, you think that the "industry would actually LISTEN to their populace considering the Music Biz is all about LISTENING!!
Yes your right. And you'd think that this would wake them up and that they'd finally listen to us.

But my gut tells us they'll try to find some shiny beads something to buy us off with. Like they've already been doing bonus tracks, videos etc. Or for a limited time limited availability of free CD, DVD, Book by the artists whos CD you just bought.
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remenber METAL?

I remenber when there were DIFFERENT kinds or music, not 3. Pop, R&B, Rap. Somehow i dont like any of those three. But years ago before the record industry starting there draconian brainwashing. Music was enjoyable, We had Metal, Alternative, and Dance. You cant find any other genres on the radio, but RB, and pop. XM is about the only thing worth listening to. Wake up Music companies, i havent bought a CD in years. There are many varieties of music aside from britney spears.
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Re: remenber METAL?

Don't forget sirius.

I spend about 8 hours a day in my truck out of a 12 hour day. And sirius makes the day a whole hell of a lot better.

Favorite is 063 great one.
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OMG IT'S A REVELATION FROM HEAVEN!

Wow the heavens just opened up and I had a revelation! P2P actually HELPS the music industry in some ways and hardly hurts it others! RIAA have been nothing but bullies to the overall mass public and using lapdogs such as John ASScroft to do their bidding!

Someone preach it high on the mountain tops and low in the vallys. P2P is not the devil!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Amen my brother, preach on.

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Sales have dropped because....

1) People can now sample the music online before buying.
2) You can buy individual songs now online instead of the whole CD, just to get one or two songs you like.
3) Because people can now sample music online before buying, they can find out if it's crap or not before they commit to buy it.

All of these add up to consumers can now make wise purchasing decisions on music. Which in turn actually affects the RIAA more as their sales have dropped because people are not buying as much crap music or whole CD's for one or two songs they like. But the folks at the RIAA would have you believe their music is great and that folks are pirating it instead of buying it.

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Re: Sales have dropped because....

So downloading music from a P2P network can tell you that you don't like the CD. This would cause you to not purchase said CD and the record industry has a lost sale. Therefore P2P is hurting the music industry.

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Re: Sales have dropped because....

Yes and no. The fact that folks don't buy the CD, because they find out its crap music, then yes. But it doesn't hurt in the way the RIAA would have you believe, in that folks like the music and are pirating it instead of buying it.

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Re: Sales have dropped because....

Yes, I agreee, if it's crap and people downloaded it from p2p they delete it... I read somewhere people are not keeping the songs they download anymore... if it's crap that's more likely to happen.. or they back it up... would be interesting to see what happens with Blank CD/DVD media this-and next year....

Personally, I can't wait for a portable dvd player that can play multple audio/video formats not just mp3s but dvd disc based not hard drive... 4.7 / 8.5gb is enough for lots of video/audio in the right formats (avi/mp3/mpeg/asf/wma/ogg/etc)

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Not likely to happen, but.....

The RIAA needs a major overhaul.

1. Stop putting out songs that suck and fire the artists that suck. Bye Justin and Britney.

2. They need to start planning out the future system with a service such as XM. Instead of just listening to some DJ speak lame one-liners and playing a song off of the list you don't want to hear, they need to create a system that is similar to InDemand.

Instead of the station deciding what you want to hear, why not let the consumer decide what they want to hear? If you just want to listen to music, leave an option just to have the station pick for you.

While this is not possible now, it is always good to think ahead. They've not done this and are paying the price right now for not doing so.

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Re: Not likely to happen, but.....

While I agree with both points, point #2 isn't really up to the RIAA. The bad DJs are a product of nearly all radio stations being owned by two companies (mainly Clear Channel Corporation). We need more locally run radio stations who play a better variety of music. (And by variety, I don't mean that same 50 top 10 songs from 1970 - 2004.)

As far as an "OnDemand" type of setup, I don't think a pure-onDemand setup would work. I could see a playlist based one working, but the details would be tricky (hardware support, playlist management, infrastructure for streaming the music, etc).

For me, my current solution is an MP3-CD player and an MP3 CD filled with about 10 hours of music. (The MP3s are ripped from my CD collection.) I can play them randomly and even make a 'custom-mix' beforehand depending on the trip. (CDs are so cheap, that I could dispose of them after each trip if I wanted to.) You could adapt this solution to use an iPod if you'd like. I just don't have the funds to buy one yet.
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Stinks in all formats


Bottom line for me is that if music stinks on CD or the radio, it will stink in Mp3 format, stink in Flac format, stink in .ogg format, ...etc

lol, you get the idea.

If I was to download music, it would only be music that I enjoyed listening too. That's the same when I buy used CDs. I only buy music I enjoy listening too.

If music sales do indeed fall, it's because music listeners simply do not want to listen to it.
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LMAO...

well no CRAP huh? It only took these assclowns 4 friggin years to figure out that people don't buy music anymore because it sucks? The sad thing is that in all likelyhood they have MBAs or other advanced degrees.

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Man, people are eating this up like candy!

Ok, on one side, we have the music industry claiming that file sharing is killing them. On the other side, the consumers are saying that the quality of the music sucks. Yet, the consumers are still downloading the "suck" music. So who is right?

The answer: Both parties in some way

The RIAA is losing money to file traders, but not as much as they are saying. That and the fact if the RIAA would grow a brain and choose the internet as a distribution method, they could make billions. Imagine selling a cd for $10 and allowing high quality downloads for .25 cents. Buy the CD, you get other extras you can't get when you buy full CDs. Thats a win-win right there. The RIAA does have a right to choose their distribution method however. It is, after all, their product. I just think it is foolish to not look at the internet as a distribution engine.

On the other hand, you have the consumers saying the music sucks. Yet, file trading continues to be popular. I think I saw a story that said bit torrent use was consuming 35% of internet bandwidth. That does not suprise me. So why are people saying this music is crap, but continuing to download it? Simple answer, they think it is crap, but at the "free" price, it is a steal (literally). Sorry, but the "current music is crap" arguement doesn't fly with me. Especially when the crappy music is being traded heavily.

I think these studies are stupid anyway. I haven't seen one study I have trusted yet, mainly because smart consumers lie about it and the RIAA lies as well. We will never see a truthful survey. All we will see is estimates and guesses.
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think goodness

if we did not haave studies how would i function. finally proof. hahha

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Iv'e Been Saying it for Years!

My feeling about this is that 10 years ago artists were still playing their instruments and writing music that was more diverse and interesting. In the past couple of years the record company's are going for the fast kill (POP Music) 1 hit wonders. It stinks that all Hip Hop & Rap Sounds The Same, and every pop song lasts about a week on the charts. Rock has always been the answer for reviving the industry but it too has gone into slumber. We need another Pearl Jam or Guns & Roses to kick it up.... Maybe a band that can compete with AC DC... In My Dreams

Oh... And most bands today even the big Caliber Names are writing Crap, I'm talking About Metalica, U2, Aerosmith....etc. What ever happened to Eric Clapton, Sting, Pink Floyd, David Bowie....are they just enjoying the royalties of past hits?

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Re: Iv'e Been Saying it for Years!

said by ShootToThril See Profile:

We need another Pearl Jam or Guns & Roses to kick it up.... Maybe a band that can compete with AC DC...
I agree, but 10 years ago there was plenty of crap around; New Kids on the Block, Boyz II Men, Michael Bolton, Madonna, Def Leppard even coughed up a new hairball for our listening pleasure back in '92 or so.

There were also about 10 bands each that sounded a lot like Pearl Jam and Guns and Roses and AC DC.

Unfortunately that is how the music industry reacts to a Pearl Jam or Guns and Roses or AC DC; by trying to sell us knock-off crap that sounds "like" the band who came up with the original sound.

I like hard rock/industrial/metal/punk/alternative music. I like almost anything but country and Celine Dion, but the aforementioned is what I listen to mostly, and yeah, I think Metallica should have hung it up after Master of Puppets. Sure, Aerosmith should have never stopped doing drugs and died young and with some dignity after "Rock in a Hard Place" and before pinching loaves like "Permanent Vacation" (1987)"Pump" (1989) for us.

But I digress.

I know you didn't mean that they should put out some new music that sounds like Pearl Jam, G 'n R, or AC DC, I get what you're saying- a band with a style and a sound that's something different, something that's not just some familiar-sounding formulaic crap, a CD with more than just 2 good songs to suck us in and 7 filler tracks to give us the bare minimum to fill an "album" so we'll plunk down our $15.

We are, at least in Indy, fortunate enough to have an "Alternative Rock" station which means we are currently listening to the latest crop of "Alternative" bands that sound like the alternative bands that sounded like Pearl Jam and STP and Nirvana. I can't tell any of them apart, and from the albums I've downloaded, I've found there are typically 2 good songs, and I'll be damned if I'm paying $15 for that. There has to be some real talent out there somewhere, but the record companies don't seem to be able to find it.
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Re: Iv'e Been Saying it for Years!

Do you think listening to "AC DC - Highway to Hell" kinda becomes the rain dance for the music industry.....as in it's only going to get worse. Even Boyz II Men had some Unique flavor to add to the R&B World.

The Sad thing is that bands like Pearl & Guns started a new style of bands in the Pop Rock culture called One Album hit Bands, I would have to add Counting Crows in the pile as well.

It seems that there is a trend of Bad Writing accompanied by Crap Producers All over the place. I can' even listen to Sting or Dave Matthews any more since they both have gone off the wall trying to sound more like billboard material than actually writing good Music. Even Korn.. The most promising Band in the Heavy Metal/ New Age Group has failed with their awful last album.....what the hell was that...Simple they are running out of material just like all the rest of them out there. The only band i heard this year that has a solid album were Audioslave and they just sound like a better polished Sound garden mixed with Rage.

I keep my old AC DC, ZZtop & other True rocking legends on re-play until the something interesting comes my way.

And to all teens who are listening to Punk bands like sum 42, Ataris, My Chemical Romance.......Get a life, your music is as interesting as Rap or Hip Hop....It all sounds the Same.
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www.DivinityDestroyed.com a local band from toms river new jersey is realy kicking it up over in the tri state area and is doing better then any record sales could ever do Band name: Divinity Destroyed Genre: Wold Metal or Rock (many types of rock)
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Re: Iv'e Been Saying it for Years!

Iv'e heard better sounding 15 year old Metal Bands in my lifetime. Sorry.

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poor starving music companies

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Online pricing is unstable too. It is likely that download prices will vary in future far more than they do now. Apple forced the industry to accept a fixed fee per download of 99 cents, but the majors will push for variable, and probably higher, prices.

God...I LOVE how they make Apple look like they are strong arming the industry.....99 cents a song is a HUGE HUGE profit considering there's no production, shipping, storage, or packaging....
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Re: poor starving music companies

Wow. You mean, all along it's been because most of the stuff out there is overrated and overpriced??

Say it ain't so....
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Are you naive enough to think that Apple gets even HALF of that 99 cent price?

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Are you naive enough to think that Apple gets even HALF of that 99 cent price?
wha? Where was I talking about apples profit?
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indie

independent music..... where all the real talent is

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independent music..... where all the real talent is
You've got that right, for sure. To be a mainstream artist, you have to be a soundalike of what's already out there. AND you have to be Clear Channel ready. A lot of the best music I've ever heard is indie. Either unsigned artists or ones signed to indie labels.
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I drink to that!

The multinationals.....DIE!!!

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Or music not made in this country

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Most music suck now

Most music just plain sucks now.. Not even worth the download. For this music pirate.

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Re: Most music suck now

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Most music just plain sucks now.. Not even worth the download. For this music pirate.
Now that I think of it, the most recent song in my library is from about 1999. Even then I have *maybe* 15 from all of the 1990s-2004.
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Re: Most music suck now

Branching out stylstically might be the answer for you. Here's a start:

»www.wayoutwest.uk.comwww.wowest.cc for a decent fansite). Way Out West, churning out electronic-infused variation over the past 10 years.

1 more: »www.kilowattsandvanek.com/
An unheard of fusion of glitch and pop, done tastefully and with care.

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Re: Most music suck now

way out west is good but i do think their latest album disappointed a bit...... although i LOVE killa :P
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Re: Most music suck now

haha, I'm impressed that someone on here knows who they are. Yea, I can understand where the disappointment stems from, since they've moved in a poptastic direction. The best part is that they are on an indie label and worth supporting, IMO!

Currently on a US tour too (just hit Chicago tonight ).
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