aSicapplication specific Premium Member join:2001-05-17 Wakulla, FL |
aSic
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2009-Jun-1 8:35 am
Wow.."...a personal visit from very annoyed government employees in black SUVs within minutes." Thats one hell of an SLA. | |
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Maynard G Krebs
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2009-Jun-1 11:21 am
Re: Wow..said by aSic:Thats one hell of an SLA. There's No Such Agreement. | |
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| DarkLogixTexan and Proud Premium Member join:2008-10-23 Baytown, TX |
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I don't think is as much of a SLA as a you cut my cable I'm coming after you agreement | |
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GlenQuagmireGiggidy Giggidy Giggidy Goo Premium Member join:2004-02-16 Grand Rapids, MI |
OppsOpps No more youtube for the NSA. | |
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BillionJust a small correction. The metrorail extension is $5.2 billion, not million. | |
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Re: BillionI figured that was probably the case. Otherwise that's a mighty expensive extension. Spend $5 million on the extension, but spend $150 million moving utilities before the actual extension can be done. Ouch.... | |
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That was the snoop line! The construction crew was wrong, no one in our government is intelligent. That was the line carrying everyone's communications in the world. The NSA could no longer listen on Aunt Bee's conversation with Barney. That is why they were upset. | |
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| BarneyBadAssBadasses Fight For Freedom Premium Member join:2004-05-07 00001 |
Re: That was the snoop line!said by Mr Matt: The construction crew was wrong, no one in our government is intelligent. That was the line carrying everyone's communications in the world. The NSA could no longer listen on Aunt Bee's conversation with Barney. That is why they were upset. I never talk w/aunt Bee on the phone. I only talk to her using a couple o'tin cans n' some string! | |
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NiceId love to be on the job site the day that happens, just to see how the foreman handles this one... LOL | |
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Re: NiceHell it be enough for me to see the foreman's "Oh Sh*t" look on his face. | |
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| KearnstdSpace Elf Premium Member join:2002-01-22 Mullica Hill, NJ |
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great would be the foreman telling the government guy, Tough shit we called 811 and you guys where too dumb to have yours on the plans. | |
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2009-Jun-1 9:19 am
Hmmm"it takes some time to fine out the owner" Do you think that they get fined or does it take time to FIND the owner. Hmmm I wonder if it the Men in Black that come to see you. | |
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| DarkLogixTexan and Proud Premium Member join:2008-10-23 Baytown, TX |
Re: HmmmI'd tell you but then I'd have to neuralize you | |
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2009-Jun-2 7:19 am
Re: HmmmI think the currently acceptable term is "marginalize" | |
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tomkb Premium Member join:2000-11-15 Tampa, FL |
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2009-Jun-1 9:20 am
ya, but here is the kickerWho's service is better to the general public? Government or Utility? | |
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black wirequote: Georgelas, the developer whose company was overseeing the work in 2000 when the Chevrolet Suburbans drove up to the Greensboro Corporate Center, said he figured that the government was involved when an AT&T crew arrived the same day to fix the line, rather than waiting days. His opinion didn't change when AT&T tried to bill his company for the work but immediately backed down when his company balked.
"These lines are not cheap to move," Georgelas said. "They said, 'You owe us $300,000.' We said, 'Are you nuts?' "
The charges just disappeared.
Non-existent wire means a non-existent repair bill | |
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| morboComplete Your Transaction join:2002-01-22 00000 |
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2009-Jun-1 9:38 am
Re: black wireI'm certain AT&T tried to bill the company as well as the government for the same work. | |
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2009-Jun-1 11:29 am
Re: black wiresaid by morbo:I'm certain AT&T tried to bill the company as well as the government for the same work. They probably billed them both more thern once. | |
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| rcdaileyDragoonfly Premium Member join:2005-03-29 Rialto, CA |
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What happens when they have to give up those Suburbans and drive around in eco-friendly little cars? They won't be nearly so scary. Of course, they could just remove $300,000 from the bank account of the developer without asking. That would shake him up, probably even more than a formation of black SUV's. | |
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The NSA showing up in a black smart car instead of a SUV....not so intimidating. | |
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Re: black wireHow about this one? Makes more since to me.. | |
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| | | Mr NeutronImpassioned Gibberish Premium Member join:2005-05-30 Gorham, ME |
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said by averagedude:The NSA showing up in a black smart car instead of a SUV....not so intimidating. What about a clown car? You know, something about half the size of a smartcar that pulls up and suddenly a dozen guys start leaping out of it? (Well, it would scare the hell out of me, anyway.) | |
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said by rcdailey: Of course, they could just remove $300,000 from the bank account of the developer without asking. That would shake him up, probably even more than a formation of black SUV's. Then the bank will swallow the loss after the account holder says fraud, then the bank will withdraw the $ from TARP. | |
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I'd say the Gov't will be footing the bill to repair their own lines. They failed to mark it, claiming it was "secret". Ya well thats all good and nice but you could of had it setup under a dummy owner name. Failure to mark your facilities normaly means the damager is free from libility. Esp if they called 811/One call number to have them marked BEFORE they dug. | |
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Re: black wiresaid by OSUGoose:Failure to mark your facilities normaly means the damager is free from libility. Esp if they called 811/One call number to have them marked BEFORE they dug. Yep, if One Call didn't mark it, you have no liability in repairing it. | |
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| KearnstdSpace Elf Premium Member join:2002-01-22 Mullica Hill, NJ |
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im sorry since your wire "Doesnt Exist" we "Didn't Cut it"..... | |
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Fine out the owner?I suppose they might try a fine....
"When a normal fiber line gets cut (and they've spent $150 million to move the lines of 21 private utilities) it takes some time to fine out the owner..." | |
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Re: Fine out the owner?When you find what's obviously a typo, why not send Karl a private message instead of post a public message? | |
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Re: Fine out the owner?Because I was only 95% sure it was a typo, could have been a joke considering the gov does like to hand out fines.
Besides, if I send him a private message then I don't get the credit for being a wise ass spelling freak.
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OwlSaverOwlSaver Premium Member join:2005-01-30 Berwyn, PA |
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2009-Jun-1 9:37 am
This sounds like a potential security problemMy understanding is that in the past, any sensitive copper links would be run through hardened conduit with leakage detection. That would make taping or signal inject nearly impossible without detection.
It sounds like they have decided that Fibre plus encryption is secure enough that it does not require special conduit. I am not so sure. But, then again, they did detect the break location, so there must be some sort of detection mechanism. | |
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Why not just label them "Top Secret"?Seems like a stupid way to identify the lines! Now everybody knows which are the government ones! Just cut one, and wait for the SUV's. | |
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Why are they called "secret" lines ?We all know what info goes thru them...... | |
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2009-Jun-1 11:28 am
Why SUVs?Can't they drive something a little more eco-friendly and less wasteful of tax-dollars? | |
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Wow 15 minutes...Man I atleast give my company 20 minutes before I phone them. I know online gaming is all the rage at the NSA but 15 minutes, these guys must be so addicted to WoW and FPS games. | |
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Re: Wow 15 minutes...a Friend of mine who works for Qwest, and also has the necessary security clearances to work on the fiber used by the Space Command in Colorado Springs. He told me he was working on the fiber lines at the resident of the General in command of The Air Force Space Command. He and his co worker had cleared this with the Generals staff and the Security staff, or so they though. They where working on the system they where challenged and when they looked up from where they where working right into the muzzles of several M4's carbines and M9 pistols. Mark dryly remarked it was apparent not everyone in security had been informed they where there. It turned out the section they where working on had recently had the security requirements increased and part of that was a Air Force Security Officer had to be present at all times too watch the technician do their work. | |
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Who ya gonna call?Fiber-Busters!
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Re: Who ya gonna call?said by cableties:Fiber-Busters! I believe it. lol I busted my gut reading this.. | |
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tmh
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2009-Jun-1 1:03 pm
What fiber?The NSA will neither confirm nor deny the existence of any fiber, so if the line gets cut, TS. | |
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2009-Jun-1 1:20 pm
Re: What fiber?So, the work crew accidentally cuts a piece of unidentified fiber. They report it to the appropriate authorities. They go home for the night. When they get back in the morning, either the fibre is mysteriously fixed or it is gone. That sounds more like the NSA. | |
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did they know?All i want to know is. Did the SUV folk know there was construction going on. Or did the come with m16's and rocket launchers stashed in their car to take someone out.
SUV: "Finally some action" SUV: "Ye i hope i can test out my new gun" SUV: "ahhhhh hell its only construction" | |
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2009-Jun-4 10:47 pm
government SUV'sWhy is it that The Government gets to drive SUV gas hogs but wants to put the rest of us in gas efficient little mini-me cars? | |
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Hpower
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2009-Jun-5 3:14 pm
Re: government SUV'slol yup that's what I think of too. | |
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mc5w
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2009-Jun-6 12:44 am
Cut the FiberWhat we really need to do is to cut the fiber going to India. Then, companies would be forced to move the call centers over here. | |
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