  ctceoPremium
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South Bend, IN | Arrrr Mayteeeee! - | |
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 |  ghostpainterI Write for the ApocalypsePremium,MVM
join:2002-05-25
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kudos:3 |  Re: Arrrr Mayteeeee!
said by ctceo:
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Aqui' Aqui' Looks like they have even bought the senate...who says the artists are taken care of...Bull:( | |
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| | DesdinovaPremium
join:2003-01-26
Gaithersburg, MD | Re: Sypware & Privacy Actually, the Freedom of Information Act only covers the release of declassified government documents. | |
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jsouthJsouth
join:2000-12-12
Wichita, KS | More money Figures, those who get paid the most from the RIAA are the ones pushing it the most. These idiots need to be either voted out or recalled. Oh yeah. Prepare for the anonymous, idiotic troll to post some thing for the RIAA. | |
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Figures, those who get paid the most from the RIAA are the ones pushing it the most. These idiots need to be either voted out or recalled. Oh yeah. Prepare for the anonymous, idiotic troll to post some thing for the RIAA.
$$$=happiness? | |
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join:2001-01-24
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kudos:3 | Arrrgh, Matey.. Stop all you want.. We'll make more. | |
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2 edits | Re: OMG!! i know that i dont make a habit of telling all my friends on the phone about all the files i've downloaded...and neither do my friends...i really dont see how wiretapping relates to p2p pirates
arrrrr, LOL  :D
edit: after re-reading the article, i see that "wiretapping" applies not just to phonelines. my mistake  | |
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| | kpatzMY HEAD A SPLODEPremium
join:2003-06-13
Manchester, NH | Re: OMG!! Doesn't the DOJ have more important issues to deal with than petty "piracy" by file sharers? Like going after REAL criminals? | |
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Doesn't the DOJ have more important issues to deal with than petty "piracy" by file sharers? Like going after REAL criminals?
they are running out of criminal to pursue. whatever it takes to squeeze more money out of average citizen. Greed is evil and disgusting!  | |
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Maybe we can score some hits during the boarding action this November! | |
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| | Brain Dead Voters! Wake the heck up Utah and Vermont!
Get rid of these bozos before they sell all of us down the river.
Hey US Senate did you happen to catch Tom Ridge's speech today?
Why not worry about something that has already brought massive tangible harm to the US people? | |
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join:2002-01-06
Vancouver, WA
kudos:1 | You can create all the laws you want .. But you can't stop people who are outside the country. The majority of file sharing goes on outside of the US.
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| nydwarf
join:2001-08-24
St Catharines, ON | Re: You can create all the laws you want .. Hahah one of these days I can see people from the US defecting to Iraq to escape government persecution! | |
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| | | | Re: You can create all the laws you want .. Yah..hahahah...[insert thumbs down sign and make farting noise]
Whatever. Do you think before you post?
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| | only scare tactics Encryption is the answer to this; problem solved. | |
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|  nixenRockin' the BoxenPremium
join:2002-10-04
Alexandria, VA | Re: only scare tactics said by underscore:
Encryption is the answer to this; problem solved.
Somehow, the RIAA will manage to get NSA to steal cycles from decrypting terrorist message traffic to busting crypted P2P streams. Oy...
Talk about some priorities.
You know, if people really gave a damn, they'd simply boycott anything associated with the RIAA. Let the whole house of cards come tumbling down. Yeah, the artists and retailers and everyone else would get hurt, but they helped build and feed this monster. Time to nuke it.
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| | FlizeshPremium
join:2003-08-16
United State | Re: only scare tactics said by nixen:
You know, if people really gave a damn, they'd simply boycott anything associated with the RIAA. Let the whole house of cards come tumbling down. Yeah, the artists and retailers and everyone else would get hurt, but they helped build and feed this monster. Time to nuke it.
-tom
I give a damn. I haven't bought a CD since the RIAA started being annoying. | |
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join:2001-06-27
Land O Lakes, FL | Re: only scare tactics Same here. | |
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| | | |  mrchrisOut and aroundPremium
join:2002-10-01
North Babylon, NY | Re: only scare tactics Same! | |
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| | |  loserhead3 Billion Chinese People Can Be Wrong
join:2004-01-01
Ellijay, GA | i have bought a total of One (1) CD in the last four years.
if i really must hear a certian song, there are plenty of ways to do so without paying the enormous amount $$ that the RIAA thinks they deserve. the ITMS is one of the best things to come around in the history of music. pay a buck, get a song. simple as it should be.
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| | | | nixenRockin' the BoxenPremium
join:2002-10-04
Alexandria, VA | Re: only scare tactics said by loserhead:
if i really must hear a certian song, there are plenty of ways to do so without paying the enormous amount $$ that the RIAA thinks they deserve. the ITMS is one of the best things to come around in the history of music. pay a buck, get a song. simple as it should be.
If you're paying for music, you're supporting the RIAA.
-tom
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join:2003-11-10
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1 edit | Re: only scare tactics said by nixen:
said by loserhead:
if i really must hear a certian song, there are plenty of ways to do so without paying the enormous amount $$ that the RIAA thinks they deserve. the ITMS is one of the best things to come around in the history of music. pay a buck, get a song. simple as it should be.
If you're paying for music, you're supporting the RIAA.
-tom
he didn't say he's not supporting the RIAA, he said not paying the enormous amount they THINK they deserve...which IMHO is the only "right" thing to do.
its wrong to "positively reinforce" the RIAA's behavior by continuing to purchase their inflated albums.
it is also wrong to steal music (only morally & legally )
so finding a cheap, legal alternative way to purchase a few songs is the way to go...you usually end up skipping half of the garbage that's on cd's anyway | |
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join:2002-10-04
Alexandria, VA | Re: only scare tactics said by rosco35:
said by nixen:
said by loserhead:
if i really must hear a certian song, there are plenty of ways to do so without paying the enormous amount $$ that the RIAA thinks they deserve. the ITMS is one of the best things to come around in the history of music. pay a buck, get a song. simple as it should be.
If you're paying for music, you're supporting the RIAA.
-tom
he didn't say he's not supporting the RIAA, he said not paying the enormous amount they THINK they deserve...which IMHO is the only "right" thing to do.
its wrong to "positively reinforce" the RIAA's behavior by continuing to purchase their inflated albums.
it is also wrong to steal music (only morally & legally )
so finding a cheap, legal alternative way to purchase a few songs is the way to go...you usually end up skipping half of the garbage that's on cd's anyway
Most of the online music services wind up being as or more expensive per song than what you'd pay in the record store. Wile purchasing the whole CD, you get 12-17 songs and pay $15-$20, it only works out to a little over a dollar a track, you have to add in that with the CD (which isn't node-locked in its default format), you get the media, you get the jewel case and you get the liner notes. Minus the cost of those extras, your per-track cost drops to less than $1. So, how is paying for "legal alternatives" cheaper and costing the RIAA and associates anything?
-tom
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so finding a cheap, legal alternative way to purchase a few songs is the way to go...you usually end up skipping half of the garbage that's on cd's anyway
You are correct regarding the entire cd....but it is cheaper to pay $2-5 for the few quality tracks on the album instead of 17 for the whole album...thats all I was saying. | |
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join:2000-11-14
Augusta, GA | actually I bought 2 cds last year
Bing Crosby and Glenn Miller (Christmas songs)
Did You Know That you are a pirate if you go a caroling
without paying royalties to the Riaa? | |
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| | | | | | | Re: only scare tactics Why I think I'll double up on carolling.
I had no idea I was sh*tting in the RIAA's face!
Double Egg Noggs for everyone!
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join:2000-07-02
Lakewood, OH | No... it's a live performance:)
And you aren't even charging admission. Cookies and Cocoa don't count:)
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said by nixen:
You know, if people really gave a damn, they'd simply boycott anything associated with the RIAA. Let the whole house of cards come tumbling down. Yeah, the artists and retailers and everyone else would get hurt, but they helped build and feed this monster. Time to nuke it.
-tom
I give a damn. I haven't bought a CD since the RIAA started being annoying.
Same here don't even turn on the radio in my truck anymore.
Last record i purchased was fingereleven from one of their live shows a couple months back. No RIAA payment for them to make so I am happy
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You know, if people really gave a damn, they'd simply boycott anything associated with the RIAA.
quote:
Boycott - To abstain from or act together in abstaining from using, buying, or dealing with as an expression of protest or disfavor or as a means of coercion.
By definition, to boycott the RIAA would include not downloading any of their music. | |
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 Augustus IIIIf Only Rome Could See Us Now....
join:2001-01-25
Gainesville, GA | crap Time to dig that bomb shelter up in the woods and stock up on AR15s...
or something. This is rediculous. Never even thought it would reach to the point of voting. | |
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Never even thought it would reach to the point of voting.
This would have never been considered if non-party candidates were elected (those that you actually agree with), funded by their supporters. The only reason this gets on the floor is people seem to overlook funding by interest groups such as the RIAA. Politicians are to serve you, the voter, not Corporate America. | |
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ViviMr Happy
join:2002-07-28
MD | hilarious... You have stuff like this in the us and yet in Canada it's now legal to file share(right?). Who the hell are they kidding? So they are going to sue a third of the US population? Then there's that word theft again. Tranferring a song from one computers to another is not stealing nor is letting your computer upload. It's copyright infringement sure but not theft. The RIAA just hates it because they get cut out of profit revenue. Well wake the **** up I'm not out to give you money, I'm out to get my music. I don't have the problem directly cutting the artist a check but screw the riaa. Are we any more greedy than they are? | |
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join:2003-02-16
London, ON | Re: hilarious... It's legal for now, but they are trying to close that "hole" in the system as fast as they can. | |
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You have stuff like this in the us and yet in Canada it's now legal to file share(right?). Who the hell are they kidding? So they are going to sue a third of the US population? Then there's that word theft again. Tranferring a song from one computers to another is not stealing nor is letting your computer upload. It's copyright infringement sure but not theft. The RIAA just hates it because they get cut out of profit revenue. Well wake the **** up I'm not out to give you money, I'm out to get my music. I don't have the problem directly cutting the artist a check but screw the riaa. Are we any more greedy than they are?
For the love of $$$? | |
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| | $157,860 from the Entertainment Industry? Why the hell isn't that illegal?
Congratulations RIAA, looks like you own some of the best politicians money can buy. | |
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| | Time to Vote Keep track of who votes yes on this law and make sure they don't get back into office | |
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|  Pz_
join:2001-03-31
Brownsburg, IN | Re: What? Me worry? Yeah really. I haven't bought a CD for about 10 years now. I think this comic from Penny-Arcade expresses how I feel about the RIAA... | |
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join:2004-05-19
Saint Paul, MN | Re: What? Me worry? Yeah really. I haven't bought a CD for about 10 years now. I think this comic from Penny-Arcade expresses how I feel about the RIAA...
not blank CD that the olny cd I ever bought and game CD AND DVD I will never buy Music a gen | |
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| | | Re: It's OK, We Didn't Use those Rights Much Anyways Regime change in the United States is the first step to correcting this situation.
Once Bush and his corporate masters are removed from the White House we can get to work on the congressional offenders. | |
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| |  Derek_WildstarWhy the fck is Shane walking in there?
join:2001-02-24
Iscandar | Re: It's OK, We Didn't Use those Rights Much Anyways To be replaced by whom? John Kerry and his corporate masters? Republican, Democrat, it makes no difference anymore and hasn't for over 20 years now. Unless you include Congress, "regime change" in this country is little more than rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.
You say you want a revolution? More people need to start holding their elected representatives at the state and local level responsible for their actions. If more people paid attention to their U.S. Senators and Representatives than the President, then we would have an easier time of things. Remember, nothing gets done without the consent of Congress. Futhermore, unlike the President, U.S. Senators and Representatives in most states don't have term limits, so they are more subjective to the desires of their constituency.
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join:2004-02-02
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| Re: It's OK, We Didn't Use those Rights Much Anyways Remember, nothing gets done without the consent of Congress. Not true. For example, the President can declare war on a country for...what is it, 30, 60, or 90 days without congressional approval? I think it was 90 days, last I looked that one up.
So, don't write off the president as the congressional bizatch, he's now got plenty of things he can do solo. | |
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join:2001-02-24
Iscandar | Re: It's OK, We Didn't Use those Rights Much Anyways True, but for more extended operations (like Iraq), he needs the approval of Congress. Furthermore, if he felt that he couldn't get the approval of Congress to stay longer, he wouldn't have sent troops in. So, in the end, it all comes back to Congress. | |
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| | | | | | | Re: It's OK, We Didn't Use those Rights Much Anyways LOL why are people so offended by this? It's common sense that piracy is wrong. If these politicians didn't vote yes for this bill that would be defying logic. The prospect that it might be soon when this internet piracy free for all is put to a halt or slowed down is depressing. But the fact remains that logic dictates piracy is wrong and congress and the RIAA is doing the right thing to taking steps to stop it. I've not agreed with the RIAA's tactics but I recognize their right to protect serious laws from being broken and a crime that is costing them money. Instead of blaming congress and the RIAA some of these file sharing makers need to start looking into the possibilities of making their networks anonymous.
BTW the blaim Bush post LMAO. Some of these blaim Bush people man they could be at a resteraunt and have some stranger fart next to them while they're eating and they would blaim Bush for it. By god. I hope Kerry gets ellected just so we don't have to hear it anymore. | |
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join:2003-01-23
Indianapolis, IN | This is SAD!
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1 edit | Burden of Proof The following is what I consider to be the most disturbing part of the ZDNet article: quote:
The Justice Department has indicated that it won't target peer-to-peer networks for two reasons: Imprisoning file-swapping teens on felony charges isn't the department's top priority, and it's always difficult to make criminal charges stick.
The Pirate Act was crafted to respond to the Justice Department's concern. "Federal prosecutors have been hindered in their pursuit of pirates by the fact that they were limited to bringing criminal charges with high burdens of proof," Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., said in March. "Prosecutors can rarely justify bringing criminal charges, and copyright owners have been left alone to fend for themselves, defending their rights only where they can afford to do so. In a world in which a computer and an Internet connection are all the tools you need to engage in massive piracy, this is an intolerable predicament."
Apparently it is more acceptable to sue the shit out of teenagers than jail them - without having to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that they actually did what they were accused of. | |
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| yabos
join:2003-02-16
London, ON | Re: Burden of Proof Boohoo, they have to show proof before charging someone? WTF kind of complaint is that. Have the RIAA never heard of innocent until proven guilty?
They just want the law to be "we can sue whoever the hell we want, and not have to have any substantial proof whatsoever." | |
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| | | | Re: Burden of Proof The RIAA already has the ability to take civil actions using the terms that you so eloquently state. A large part of The Pirate Act appears to be to enable the United States government to pursue actions under civil law that they can't prove under criminal law. | |
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The following is what I consider to be the most disturbing part of the ZDNet article: quote:
The Justice Department has indicated that it won't target peer-to-peer networks for two reasons: Imprisoning file-swapping teens on felony charges isn't the department's top priority, and it's always difficult to make criminal charges stick.
The Pirate Act was crafted to respond to the Justice Department's concern. "Federal prosecutors have been hindered in their pursuit of pirates by the fact that they were limited to bringing criminal charges with high burdens of proof," Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., said in March. "Prosecutors can rarely justify bringing criminal charges, and copyright owners have been left alone to fend for themselves, defending their rights only where they can afford to do so. In a world in which a computer and an Internet connection are all the tools you need to engage in massive piracy, this is an intolerable predicament."
Apparently it is more acceptable to sue the shit out of teenagers than jail them - without having to prove within a reasonable doubt that they actually did what they were accused of.
This is bs, nuff said. | |
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| | | The poor copyright owners (like Universal, BMG, etc) have been left alone to fend for themselves against those nigh-omnipotent file-sharers. So obviously it's necessary to bring in the awesome power of government to crush the file sharers. Yeah. Right. That's why the RIAA is losing so many file sharing suits; it's because their ultra-rich opponents have such great lawyers. Uh-huh. | |
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Zunger
join:2003-08-24
Fayetteville, AR | oh noes No more calling 1900 numbers and bragging about the metallica CD i just downloaded to skanks. All the fun is going bye bye :-( | |
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| | | Re: oh noes America is going south
When a father is arrested for not applying ENOUGH sun screen on his 12 year old son(son is old enough to know better)
And to all those who say "if you don't like it, leave"....you won't like it when your life has been directly affected...sheep
"if your not branded a criminal today, there's always tomorrow"
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join:2001-08-25
Charlotte, NC | Re: oh noes said by daniyel:
America is going south
When a father is arrested for not applying ENOUGH sun screen on his 12 year old son(son is old enough to know better)
And to all those who say "if you don't like it, leave"....you won't like it when your life has been directly affected...sheep
"if your not branded a criminal today, there's always tomorrow"
"In a neighborhood near you......1984"
Yup, all the naysayers will be also be trapped in this endless assault on our American Republic. The sheep "saying I have nothing to hide" will eventually be cubbie-holed as a terrorist when tailor made legislation for "them" blows into town. Boy it feels drafty in here. Fascism at its best folks... Criminalization of everything will be status quo. There will be a barrage of internet stazi working for Big Brother scouring the far corners of the web looking for unscrupulous file trading. Welcome to the New Amerika. | |
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 lflarry1Analog Is Not A MythPremium
join:2003-07-15
THE VOID | I didn't mean it...Really! I was at a public carwash today and overheard a song coming from the next bay.
can I be sued? [sarcasm ON]
I better call the RIAA right away and turn myself in. My bad:D
Think they'll let me settle? I sure hope so!
I think they have my phone bugged.:p Thank God for Tin foil hats. I'm wearing it now so I should be safe. Now got to hide all my CD's pronto. Ahhhh....SAFE!
[sarcasm off]
Thank you and Good night. Wire tapping now Geesshhh!
Lots of us laughed at that grotesque video starring the RIAA police. Remember? well maybe it's not so far fetched afterall, eh?
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mikey43Premium
join:2002-02-11
Merritt Island, FL | Screw The RIAA Make sure your downloads are safe and don't buy new CD's from the bastards. If their revenues really fall they will do something different. They may even get smart enough to make downloading reasonable and also profitable for them. $15-20 for a mostly lousy CD is still the biggest crime around! | |
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| | 3DESBaby What's so funny about this is the exact people who useto support those record exec bastards, are getting screwed now. Who do they think buys all these CDs to begin with? Not adults, not older people, all 13-20 yr olds, and that's who they are targeting, and who are the most computer savey demographic...not a smart thing to do.
As one brilliant poster already posted, encryption is the key (get it, key..anyway)...simply have a server outside the US, you have a secure connection to it, it has a secure connection to another computer in the US...file share away, they can count packets, they can bitch and moan, but they can't break into 3DES encrypted packets...and if they ever break that on a supercomputer, simple double the keylength to 128bits for all 3 keys...no breaky...
For the people who have been sued by the RIAA already, how did they get the info about them? Was it from Kazaa for example about what songs they got/shared? Or was it from different ISPs?? I can't believe Kazaa would in any way help the government...and if just ISP's, that's cake to get around with encryption...
I just finished a big project with 3DES encryption, and am putting it into a windows state...we'll see how it goes...if well then maybe this will be the p2p encryption one.. | |
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