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The Top 25 Fastest Broadband Counties
Verizon FiOS a catalyst for faster speeds...
by Karl Bode Thursday 04-Mar-2010 tags: business · bandwidth
A company by the name of ID Insight has released their list of the nation's fastest broadband counties. At the top of the list sits Nassau County, NY, where users see a median download speed of 15 megabits per second and a median upload speed of 4.4 megabits per second. ID Insight says they're using a system called Broadband Scout, a broadband coverage tool they developed to sell to communities trying to get a portion of the $7.2 billion in broadband investment funds.

Not too surprisingly, there's a lot of areas in the top ten that Verizon has upgraded significantly with FiOS, which in turn prompts local cable operators to quickly upgrade to DOCSIS 3.0 technology. In Nassau and Putnam counties in New York, both are in the top five because of the speed competition occurring between carriers like Verizon, Cablevision, and Comcast -- all three of whom have dumped money back into the network in those markets. All three, not coincidentally, offer next-gen speeds between 50 Mbps and 100 Mbps downstream.

At the same time you'll note that you don't see many counties from more rural states like Maine or West Virginia, markets Verizon has either offloaded or in the process of offloading because they don't believe them to be profitable. You also won't see many states dominated by companies that are busily nursing last gen infrastructure (either because they can't afford to upgrade, or are putting investor fear above consumers and future proofing the network).

Of course if you compare this list to a list of the nation's wealthiest counties you'll note the lists don't sync up particularly well. In part that's because while wealthy counties may have some very wealthy residents, it's counties where there's a litany of upper-middle classers packed into suburban sprawl where the real money's made. Carriers traditionally consider higher end housing developments the tastiest targets in terms of ROI.

There's several strange omissions from the list, including the entire state of California, and several cities in Utah served by municipal fiber to the home service.

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blueeyesm

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Wealthiest Counties vs. Fastest Broadband...

..can be explained.

"You don't become rich by writing a lot of checks."


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Re: Wealthiest Counties vs. Fastest Broadband...

i dont think fast speed are important for many of us that don't even have a clue what 1mbit or 100mbit is...
the younger generation and the older generation just want a connection that's faster then dialup
the one that care about fast connection are in the minority of 10 percent
chronoss2009
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no you produce a product cheaper and better then your rivals and when you dont have any you can overcharge and gouge people.

this is kinda how the Sicilian mafia operates
GET RID A COMPETITION raise extortion rates
Core0000
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I like that. First time I have ever heard that saying. And you know, not trying to get off topic, but this saying if our Federal Government followed it, this country might be in decent shape.
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Where's the Comparison

said by Karl Bode:

In part that's because while wealthy counties may have some very wealthy residents, it's counties where there's a litany of upper-middle classers packed into suburban sprawl where the real money's made.
So where's the comparison between counties populated by "upper-middle classers" and broadband throughput? If you're going to throw that stake in the ground, it'd be nice to see the data to back it up. Redlining is often claimed, but it's never actually been shown to be true to my knowledge.
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California is left out

I didn't see a single county in California on the list.

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Re: California is left out

said by daveinpoway:

I didn't see a single county in California on the list.
Funny -- I noticed the same thing, came here to post about it..... but you already had!

If there was a county to be on the list, I'd say it'd be somewhere near/around SoCal. Sadly, Verizon services (specifically anything other than cellular) don't exist up here. If FiOS ever came here, Comcast would likely be out of business within a few months.

Footnote: Just because we have Google doesn't mean jack squat. Mountain View got free WiFi (with its spotty-as-hell coverage; those pole-mounted repeaters don't go very far!), but so what? Totally different metric, demographic, and speed.
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Re: California is left out

I would have to say it would be Sacramento or Placer Counties with the fact Surewest is pushing out 50/50 speeds on their fiber service.

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Re: California is left out

said by fiberguy:

I would have to say it would be Sacramento or Placer Counties with the fact Surewest is pushing out 50/50 speeds on their fiber service.
don't forget kansas city, well they haven't even cover half the states yet so yea fiber optic is still the future and many in the future will still not have it unless
1. they want it
2. willing to pay more
3. surewest are making effort to cover more area.
4. surewest has to reap huge amount of profits
fabulous

you a speed lover
dude what ya do with your 20/20 24hrs a day for 67.00 a month?
i mean 25/25
fixed
LOL
a speed upgrade of extra 5mb make ya really happy?

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People said the same thing when FiOS started rolling out in MA and NY. Instead, Verizon peaked and is losing customers.
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I think they got it all wrong.

There is no mention of Grant county in Washington state which has had 100mbps (some reports put it at 114mbps) for years now. Grant county PUD's fiber network is available to 80% of it's residents and 95% to businesses.

Any other county can top such coverage with such speeds?

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Re: I think they got it all wrong.

Wow. If I didn't have Paxio or couldn't get it, your county is where I'd move to in a hurry!

Wait... It doesn't rain a lot up there, does it??
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Re: I think they got it all wrong.

said by joebarnhart:

Wow. If I didn't have Paxio or couldn't get it, your county is where I'd move to in a hurry!

Wait... It doesn't rain a lot up there, does it??
No, it doesn't rain like in Seattle but we do have hot summers and cold winters. This side of the state has a different weather than western Washington.

The area is also very rural with the biggest town having a population of around 19,000.

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Re: I think they got it all wrong.

Oh.... Then there's no Fry's Electronics nearby?

Bummer!


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Wow

All of RI made the list, if this is the case I should shut up and enjoy my Internet speeds as it is obvious the rest of the country is not so lucky
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200megabit novis offering in canada

no mention of that neither its a completely american biased study and whoever posted this garbage should be shot

BAD REPORTING
plenty a other countries give better speed then yankies and not only that have little to no caps

who cares if i can go a gigabit speed if i can only use it one hour a month
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Re: 200megabit novis offering in canada

reading and writing not one of Canada's strong points i guess

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Re: 200megabit novis offering in canada

said by plat2on1:

reading and writing not one of Canada's strong points i guess
Ha! Thumbs up!
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Re: 200megabit novis offering in canada

said by Gbcue:

said by plat2on1:

reading and writing not one of Canada's strong points i guess
Ha! Thumbs up!
Well look what we have here, two genius's. Incase you couldn't tell, that's taking sarcasm and smacking you in the face with it.
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This....

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said by chronoss2009:

no mention of that neither its a completely american biased study and whoever posted this garbage should be shot

BAD REPORTING
plenty a other countries give better speed then yankies and not only that have little to no caps

who cares if i can go a gigabit speed if i can only use it one hour a month
This is about "counties" within the US not "countries."

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Article subtitle:
"BroadBand Scout Database Provides Data to Rank U.S. Counties by Actual Internet Connection Speed"

U.S. company => U.S. focus

I mean, if you put up the top 25 localities in the world, then the U.S. might not have even one in there... maybe not even one in the top 125. Meh. (And, yeah, caps are evil.)

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Chester County, PA

Chester County PA IS the most affluent county in PA....

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Re: Chester County, PA

And not Bucks?
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Re: Chester County, PA

I have some friends who work for Chesco, and they're always saying that when they bitch about pay.

Guess my source is a little skewed, but there is BOO COO buckaroos in that part of the state...
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Dollar Bill $$$

Ya, no surprises here. The top five counties are all well off. No question Nassau and Suffolk County are on this list.

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Re: Dollar Bill $$$

said by tphillips:

Ya, no surprises here. The top five counties are all well off. No question Nassau and Suffolk County are on this list.
I was a little surprised to find Nassau County #1 and Suffolk County - right next door - much further down on the list. I guess that accounts for the decreased FiOS penetration further out in Suffolk compared to Nassau? Who knows.

I used to live in Nassau, had Fios. 30/5, it was great. I now have Cablevision, and currently just about the same with respect to the speeds.
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Long Island

Home to FiOS and cablevision. No surprise they're the fastest.

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Re: Long Island

said by fifty nine:

Home to FiOS and cablevision. No surprise they're the fastest.
Agreed
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What Qualifies as Rural?

Frederick County, VA is nearly in West Virginia. The dimwitted may not play a mean banjo, but it's out there a bit. The horse to human ratio is quite high.

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Re: What Qualifies as Rural?

said by jmn1207:

Frederick County, VA is nearly in West Virginia. The dimwitted may not play a mean banjo, but it's out there a bit. The horse to human ratio is quite high.
Same with Salem County,NJ. Not sure how they made the list. It is mostly rural and poor to boot.

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Re: What Qualifies as Rural?

I was wondering about Salem County too. Maybe they have so few users that there's no congestion.

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Here come the accusations of Broadband redlining

You know that someone, somewhere, is going to start accusing the telcos and cable companies of this after this study came out.

This will be followed shortly afterward by the filing of class action lawsuits. I may be cynical here, but in today's litigious society, this is easily possible. And of course, the only ones that will win are the lawyers.
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rahvin112

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No Sandy on that List.

Guess this puts the previous list to shame, no Sandy Utah no this one!

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Availability vs Buying ?

This list only tells me what the average speed people are currently paying for, not necessarily what's available.... so using this list to try and identify weak spots in broadband map means you're only looking at part of the problem.

For example, I can think of several counties here in Texas that have some pretty high speeds available right now... but if most of the users are only buying the "budget" tier then that will skew your average. Heck, even if every internet user in San Antonio signed up for Time Warner or AT&T's highest speed then Bexar County would be at the top...

So this list is nothing more than a "huh, that's interesting" report that has more to do with people's free discretionary or disposable income than strong vs weak spots in our nation's broadband availability.

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I'm liking this one

8. Snohomish County, Wash. (off the speed list, we're a ways down the money list )

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Holy competition

Wow who would have thought having more than one provider in a area would create low prices,high speed's,probably awesome customer service and no bickering between providers because they are worried about keeping customers, because the grass might be a little greener with the other providers since there is more than one,i guess the FCC missed this report freaking amazing.
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Only 3 in the Midwest,

I noticed.
The other 22 are all located in states on the East/West coast.
Would like to hear from these areas on the speed merchants that helped get them on this list.

7)Delaware County(Muncie), Indiana
Has AT&T U-Verse since late 2006. Comcast offers 50Mbps there.

21)Allen County(Fort Wayne), Indiana
They are only the Verizon FiOS metro area in the Midwest. Offered in 2005. Believe that FiOS and Comcast both offer 50Mbps. The wonders of competition!

23)Ramsey County(St. Paul), Minnesota
State capital, and home of part of U of Minnesota campus.
Has Comcast and Qwest.

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Wealthy?

Here in Nassau County there are wealthy enclaves, primarily here on the North Shore of Long Island but take a trip to the southern part of the county and the demographics change considerably. Yes I have 15/2 speeds and part of the is due to competition from Verizon. Previously, our speeds were 10/1 which was one of the fastest speeds in the country at the time.
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fud

At the same time you'll note that you don't see many counties from more rural states like Maine or West Virginia, markets Verizon has either offloaded or in the process of offloading because they don't believe them to be profitable.

I count at least FOUR counties on that list that have heavy FiOS penetration that are being sold off to Froniter:
Snohomish County, WA,
Washington County, OR
Yamhill County , OR
Multnomah County, OR
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ROI proven, yet slow progress

In the 7 years the speeds offered to residential customers barely breaks 100 megabits(10:1 asymmetrical no less) at a STEEP price, chock full of early adopter activation/installation fees. That fantasy of 1996 telco reform didn't exactly do a whole lot for the best of the deployed networks much less the worst of them. Competition did not take off... the worst of behaviors including consolidation and price collusion involved with cherry picking municipalities and blood letting rural and poor "roi" parts of existing footprints are the reality on the ground.

Can one blame consumers getting ripped off by staying loyal to companies while "temporary" price reductions got them locked in for 1-2 years of savings and after that they have to switch off to another carrier to continue the discounts? Yes, apathy is part of the problem, but not the whole part... companies preyed on this apathy and took it as a sign to experiment with higher pricing and capping services with a total bytes consumed monthly limit. Consumers can't afford to be apathetic to these companies because they will screw you over at every turn if your not demanding the best price each and every time your discount fades into history..

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