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this is kinda how the Sicilian mafia operates GET RID A COMPETITION raise extortion rates | |
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 |  Core0000Premium join:2008-05-04 Somerset, KY | I like that. First time I have ever heard that saying. And you know, not trying to get off topic, but this saying if our Federal Government followed it, this country might be in decent shape. | |
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 openbox9 join:2004-01-26 Alexandria, VA kudos:1 | Where's the Comparison said by Karl Bode:In part that's because while wealthy counties may have some very wealthy residents, it's counties where there's a litany of upper-middle classers packed into suburban sprawl where the real money's made. So where's the comparison between counties populated by "upper-middle classers" and broadband throughput? If you're going to throw that stake in the ground, it'd be nice to see the data to back it up. Redlining is often claimed, but it's never actually been shown to be true to my knowledge. | |
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 | | California is left out I didn't see a single county in California on the list. | |
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 |  koitsuPremium,MVM join:2002-07-16 Mountain View, CA kudos:13 1 edit | Re: California is left out said by daveinpoway:I didn't see a single county in California on the list. Funny -- I noticed the same thing, came here to post about it..... but you already had! 
If there was a county to be on the list, I'd say it'd be somewhere near/around SoCal. Sadly, Verizon services (specifically anything other than cellular) don't exist up here. If FiOS ever came here, Comcast would likely be out of business within a few months.
Footnote: Just because we have Google doesn't mean jack squat. Mountain View got free WiFi (with its spotty-as-hell coverage; those pole-mounted repeaters don't go very far!), but so what? Totally different metric, demographic, and speed. -- Making life hard for others since 1977. I speak for myself and not my employer/affiliates of my employer. | |
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 |  |  fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium join:2005-05-20 kudos:3 | Re: California is left out I would have to say it would be Sacramento or Placer Counties with the fact Surewest is pushing out 50/50 speeds on their fiber service. | |
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 | | I think they got it all wrong. There is no mention of Grant county in Washington state which has had 100mbps (some reports put it at 114mbps) for years now. Grant county PUD's fiber network is available to 80% of it's residents and 95% to businesses.
Any other county can top such coverage with such speeds? | |
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 |  joebarnhartPaxio evangelist join:2005-12-15 Santa Clara, CA Reviews:
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| Re: I think they got it all wrong. Wow. If I didn't have Paxio or couldn't get it, your county is where I'd move to in a hurry!
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The area is also very rural with the biggest town having a population of around 19,000. | |
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Bummer!
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 wyndmanPremium join:2009-08-28 Warren, RI | Wow All of RI made the list, if this is the case I should shut up and enjoy my Internet speeds as it is obvious the rest of the country is not so lucky | |
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 | | 200megabit novis offering in canada no mention of that neither its a completely american biased study and whoever posted this garbage should be shot
BAD REPORTING plenty a other countries give better speed then yankies and not only that have little to no caps
who cares if i can go a gigabit speed if i can only use it one hour a month | |
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 |  plat2on1 join:2002-08-21 Hopewell Junction, NY | Re: 200megabit novis offering in canada reading and writing not one of Canada's strong points i guess | |
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| Re: 200megabit novis offering in canada said by plat2on1:reading and writing not one of Canada's strong points i guess Ha! Thumbs up! -- My Blog 2.0 | |
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| said by chronoss2009:no mention of that neither its a completely american biased study and whoever posted this garbage should be shot BAD REPORTING plenty a other countries give better speed then yankies and not only that have little to no caps who cares if i can go a gigabit speed if i can only use it one hour a month This is about "counties" within the US not "countries." | |
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U.S. company => U.S. focus
I mean, if you put up the top 25 localities in the world, then the U.S. might not have even one in there... maybe not even one in the top 125. Meh. (And, yeah, caps are evil.) | |
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 N3OGHCertified GLG-20Premium join:2003-11-11 Philly burbs kudos:1 | Chester County, PA Chester County PA IS the most affluent county in PA.... | |
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| Re: Chester County, PA I have some friends who work for Chesco, and they're always saying that when they bitch about pay.
Guess my source is a little skewed, but there is BOO COO buckaroos in that part of the state... -- Petty people are disproportionally corrupted by petty power | |
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 | | Dollar Bill $$$ Ya, no surprises here. The top five counties are all well off. No question Nassau and Suffolk County are on this list. | |
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| Re: Dollar Bill $$$ said by tphillips:Ya, no surprises here. The top five counties are all well off. No question Nassau and Suffolk County are on this list. I was a little surprised to find Nassau County #1 and Suffolk County - right next door - much further down on the list. I guess that accounts for the decreased FiOS penetration further out in Suffolk compared to Nassau? Who knows.
I used to live in Nassau, had Fios. 30/5, it was great. I now have Cablevision, and currently just about the same with respect to the speeds. -- "Soulshine. Better than sunshine. Better than moonshine. Damn sure better than rain."
I'm waiting, rather patiently I believe, for springtime.
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 | | Long Island Home to FiOS and cablevision. No surprise they're the fastest. | |
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| Re: Long Island said by fifty nine:Home to FiOS and cablevision. No surprise they're the fastest. Agreed -- The Why Anything Radio feedback line (347) 632-8561 | |
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 jmn1207Premium join:2000-07-19 Reston, VA | What Qualifies as Rural? Frederick County, VA is nearly in West Virginia. The dimwitted may not play a mean banjo, but it's out there a bit. The horse to human ratio is quite high. | |
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 |  ThrowDemsOutIf you can't convince 'em, confuse 'emPremium join:2002-03-03 Mullica Hill, NJ kudos:4 | Re: What Qualifies as Rural? said by jmn1207:Frederick County, VA is nearly in West Virginia. The dimwitted may not play a mean banjo, but it's out there a bit. The horse to human ratio is quite high. Same with Salem County,NJ. Not sure how they made the list. It is mostly rural and poor to boot. | |
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 Doctor FourMy other vehicle is a TARDISPremium join:2000-09-05 Dallas, TX 1 edit | Here come the accusations of Broadband redlining You know that someone, somewhere, is going to start accusing the telcos and cable companies of this after this study came out.
This will be followed shortly afterward by the filing of class action lawsuits. I may be cynical here, but in today's litigious society, this is easily possible. And of course, the only ones that will win are the lawyers. -- "The trouble with computers, of course, is that they are very sophisticated idiots." - Doctor Who (from Robot)
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1 edit | Availability vs Buying ? This list only tells me what the average speed people are currently paying for, not necessarily what's available.... so using this list to try and identify weak spots in broadband map means you're only looking at part of the problem.
For example, I can think of several counties here in Texas that have some pretty high speeds available right now... but if most of the users are only buying the "budget" tier then that will skew your average. Heck, even if every internet user in San Antonio signed up for Time Warner or AT&T's highest speed then Bexar County would be at the top...
So this list is nothing more than a "huh, that's interesting" report that has more to do with people's free discretionary or disposable income than strong vs weak spots in our nation's broadband availability. | |
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| Holy competition Wow who would have thought having more than one provider in a area would create low prices,high speed's,probably awesome customer service and no bickering between providers because they are worried about keeping customers, because the grass might be a little greener with the other providers since there is more than one,i guess the FCC missed this report freaking amazing. | |
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3 edits | Only 3 in the Midwest, I noticed. The other 22 are all located in states on the East/West coast. Would like to hear from these areas on the speed merchants that helped get them on this list.
7)Delaware County(Muncie), Indiana Has AT&T U-Verse since late 2006. Comcast offers 50Mbps there.
21)Allen County(Fort Wayne), Indiana They are only the Verizon FiOS metro area in the Midwest. Offered in 2005. Believe that FiOS and Comcast both offer 50Mbps. The wonders of competition!
23)Ramsey County(St. Paul), Minnesota State capital, and home of part of U of Minnesota campus. Has Comcast and Qwest. | |
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| Wealthy? Here in Nassau County there are wealthy enclaves, primarily here on the North Shore of Long Island but take a trip to the southern part of the county and the demographics change considerably. Yes I have 15/2 speeds and part of the is due to competition from Verizon. Previously, our speeds were 10/1 which was one of the fastest speeds in the country at the time. -- I support the right to keep and arm bears. | |
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I count at least FOUR counties on that list that have heavy FiOS penetration that are being sold off to Froniter: Snohomish County, WA, Washington County, OR Yamhill County , OR Multnomah County, OR | |
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| ROI proven, yet slow progress In the 7 years the speeds offered to residential customers barely breaks 100 megabits(10:1 asymmetrical no less) at a STEEP price, chock full of early adopter activation/installation fees. That fantasy of 1996 telco reform didn't exactly do a whole lot for the best of the deployed networks much less the worst of them. Competition did not take off... the worst of behaviors including consolidation and price collusion involved with cherry picking municipalities and blood letting rural and poor "roi" parts of existing footprints are the reality on the ground.
Can one blame consumers getting ripped off by staying loyal to companies while "temporary" price reductions got them locked in for 1-2 years of savings and after that they have to switch off to another carrier to continue the discounts? Yes, apathy is part of the problem, but not the whole part... companies preyed on this apathy and took it as a sign to experiment with higher pricing and capping services with a total bytes consumed monthly limit. Consumers can't afford to be apathetic to these companies because they will screw you over at every turn if your not demanding the best price each and every time your discount fades into history.. | |
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