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The Verizon iPhone Rumor Simply Will Not Die
Wall Street Journal: Apple to start production of CDMA iPhone

Just a few weeks ago, Verizon CEO Ivan Seidenberg crushed many a nerd hope when he all but directly proclaimed that the iPhone would not be coming to Verizon -- or at least not until Apple "got with the program" and offered an LTE-capable device that could run on the company's new network. But today the Wall Street Journal kept the well-beyond absurd Verizon/iPhone rumor train alive by citing a source that claims Apple will begin manufacturing a CDMA iPhone before the end of the year -- with Verizon selling it in early 2011:

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The new iPhone would be similar in design to the iPhone 4 currently sold by AT&T Inc. but would be based on an alternative wireless technology called CDMA used by Verizon, these people said. The phone, for which Qualcomm Inc. is providing a key chip, is expected to be released in the first quarter of next year, according to the same people.
Speaking at an LTE launch presentation today, Verizon's Lowell C. McAdam wouldn't comment, outside of saying these stories pop up "every few weeks," while reiterating that the ball was in Apple's court. If there is going to be an announcement (and at this point many people following this rumor may have been annoyed to the point of no longer giving a damn) it would likely come at CES in January, where Verizon CEO Ivan Seidenberg is scheduled to keynote.

Unless it's dual mode, this CDMA iPhone couldn't run on Verizon's new LTE network, making the device slightly less appealing. The same Wall Street Journal source says Apple is hard at work on a fifth generation iPhone with a "new form factor." That new phone would likely launch during the usual June 2011 window, and might perhaps sport LTE capabilities -- and a new design catering to users who like to hold their phones and make calls.
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aztecnology
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Don't these sources know that Apple releases their phones in the summer...

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This will play right into Verizons LTE launch. I could see it happening.

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said by aztecnology:

Don't these sources know that Apple releases their phones in the summer...
They release NEW phones in the summer. They have in the past released current versions of the iPhone to new carriers outside of the US at times other than the summer.

Since this would likely just be the iPhone4 with CDMA, they wouldn't need to wait until their normal June release. That is when they show off their newest phone. There is nothing to show off in releasing the same iPhone4 just on Verizon.

That would be like them waiting until June to say that the iPhone4 is now available on some random GSM carrier in Europe. It wouldn't make sense.

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Look at all these rumors....

This one's starting to rank up there with was Liberace gay and has Mick Jagger ever used heroin.

I'll give it this much, it seems to have an on going life of it's own.

Think of something that never dies?
hottboiinnc4
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It's going to Sprint.

en102
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Re: Sprint

What would make you think that ? I'd say US Cellular
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Re: Sprint

Sprint is the only one that has the customer base to support it on a large roll out and would be willing to give up their rights with the digital music and apps store just to get the customers on to their network. they'd use the CDMA Gen 2 phone as a combo WiMax and CDMA phone and really take a chunk....That's the way i see it work. and still say VZ won't get this phone nor will any smaller carriers.
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Re: Sprint

I'd probably switch from Verizon to Sprint for the iPhone, assuming I keep number.
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Re: Sprint

and why wouldn't you keep the same number? you can port your numbers.
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Theres no reason why the "Verizon iPhone" can't be the 1 and ONLY LTE iPhone. All Apple or Verizon have to do to give the LTE only iPhone voice service is set up some VOIP gateways, license a VOIP app for iPhone, and QOS mark the packets headed to the VZ/Apple VOIP gateways. A "pre" LTE Voice solution. If and when Verizon/LTE gets a standardized voice solution, slowly the firmwares/software on the LTE iPhone could be upgraded. After 4 or 5 years nobody will be using the Gen 1 LTE iPhone anymore (atleast in corporate's mind) and VZ/Apple will pull the plug on the pre-LTE Voice VOIP gateways.

The LTE iPhone will probably have a GSM chip for backwards compatibility. Nothing is stopping Verizon from letting Verizon iPhone users roam onto AT&T GSM (the 1 and only GSM provider left in the USA except for Tmobile, Cricket/MPCS/Pocket/Boost are all CDMA) until VZ builds out their LTE network and then blocks roaming onto ATT GSM.

Heck, the VZ iPhone might be THE launch device for VZ LTE, and it will be the only LTE device for a while until traffic levels stabilize/VOIP traffic levels stabilize on VZ LTE.

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Re: Sprint

Its just not very likely that VZW would sign a roaming agreement with AT&T...It may be more likely a roaming agreement with T-Mobile.
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While I can see it going to Sprint on CDMA, I don't think that WiMAX is in Apple's future.
Personally - if they do decide to make it CDMA - I _really_ think that they'll sell it to all carriers that are willing to work with them.

Not many carriers to push CDMA in any large volume outside of VZW or Sprint.

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said by hottboiinnc4:

Sprint is the only one that has the customer base to support it on a large roll out and would be willing to give up their rights with the digital music and apps store just to get the customers on to their network. they'd use the CDMA Gen 2 phone as a combo WiMax and CDMA phone and really take a chunk....That's the way i see it work. and still say VZ won't get this phone nor will any smaller carriers.
Apple doesn't want a WiMax phone, they want a real global tech. which now will be LTE.

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Actually MetroPCS launches iPhone 2Q 2011!

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No its not. It's going to Cracket and Ghettro PCS lol.
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No its not. It's going to Cracket and Ghettro PCS lol.
naw dawg b00st!!!!!

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We can only hope I love my boost blackberry, but I'd jump ship, mighty fast if sprint got it.

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said by hottboiinnc4:

It's going to Sprint.
Apple doesn't want a ghetto iPhone.

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Maybe but I'm happy with my evo using it right now on 4G in an area that is not supposed to have it.

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said by hottboiinnc4:

It's going to Sprint.
That's what I was thinking too. Everyone is focused on Verizon since it's CDMA, but this would be a boon to Sprint.

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Unless its dual band ?

said by Karl :
Unless it's dual band, this CDMA iPhone couldn't run on Verizon's new LTE network, making the device slightly less appealing.
You mean 'dual mode'. Dual band would mean CDMA 850 and CDMA 1900.

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Re: Unless its dual band ?

Hah, thanks. Fingers were moving too quickly...

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said by Karl Bode:

Hah, thanks. Fingers were moving too quickly...
That would be the 4GV phone.
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In other news...

... who cares?

I hate to say this, but what's the point of those at BBR even posting this "rumor"...? The "news guy" is spreading the rumor just as much as anyone else.. right? ...Right!

Seriously - if the head blogger at BBR understands this to be a rumor, then why is it that every time someone else puts out a "news article" about "the iPhone is coming to Verizon" he's posting it here as well?

The thing that I'm not sure he understands is that IF Verizon DOES pick up the iPhone as a CDMA phone as these "rumors" state, and its somewhat being mocked here at BBR,.. um, BBR is going to have a lot of crow to be eating as well.

Maybe if this is just a rumor, and we've been reminded of it here at every posting in the news, then why help the rumor live? .. let it die.

You know what I think? ..I think that corporate America has become good at keeping people guessing... I think that it's not mid 1990's any more when large companies wanted the consumer to know in advance.. and now with fierce competition going on, and EXPENSIVE competition in play, they're all playing the "no one needs to know until it happens" game.. apple is GREAT for keeping their mouth shut and playing denial.. we all know that. Also, when has anyone really ever trusted the CEO of Verizon?

So like I said.. who cares...?
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Re: In other news...

to answer your question about the "news guy" he does it to keep DSLR/BBR at the top of google searches so he keeps a pay check coming in from Google's adwords the same as he does by not saying anything bad about them and all the good with T and Apple.

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I care. It's exciting and I want the AT&T iPhone exclusivity to end.
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In Other News...

...on Wall Street AAPL and VZ both showed interesting activity as unnamed Wall Street sources and journalists with heavy share volumes poised to short when this latest story about a rumor turns out to be just a rumor.

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coincidence

Remember that VZ said they were introducing tiering pricing or some form of metered pricing in the upcoming months? This coming out in the next 3-4 months is very reminiscent of the tact ATT took when the new iPhone was released.

Could be something this time.

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It's going to Soviet Russia

(Insert Soviet Russia jokes here)

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Re: It's going to Soviet Russia

In Soviet Russia, Iphone dials you.

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It is no longer a rumor, here it is The Verizon iPhone


The Verison iPhone 5G
I have the facts here is the iPhone 5G for Verizon, iPhone finally "gets it" Notice the combination screen cover/antenna no loss of signal here, the state of the art touch screen. This is the Verizon "it don't do nutin" iPhone.

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Re: It is no longer a rumor, here it is The Verizon iPhone

And there's the modern antenna 'screen'.

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Re: It's going to Soviet Russia

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In Soviet Russia, Iphone dials you.
Good one! And not just there apparently.

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why why why

why do you morons keep discussing this? jesus h christ stfu already and get on with your pathetic excuses for lives. who really gives a fuck about what phone someone uses? life is too short for banality.

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Oh thou xdeadhead if you think it is bad here you should go over to Macrumors it is almost to the level of rival South American fútbol fans

By the way long time no hear

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first thing I thought of...

...when I heard Rush Limbaugh mention this is, like the article mentions, why would I want to sink major $$$ into a device which is simply going to be obsoleted by LTE, possibly only within a couple of years? Shouldn't Apple and Verizon (and possibly Sprint Nextel) be concentrating on an LTE iPhone and not a CDMA iPhone? Then again...now that I think of it, Apple tends to come out with a new iPhone every couple of years...

Also like others have posted, I think AT&T exclusivity is stupid, at least from the consumers' PoV. At the very least, do not lock the existing (GSM) iPhone and allow it to work on TMobile.

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My personal prediction

There will be no CDMA iPhone 4G in the beginning of the year. Instead, production for the LTE capable iPhone 5G will begin in the beginning of the year, or possibly in the spring. This will give Verizon, and possibly AT&T if they give off their asses, some time to implement LTE in all of the major cities and maybe the well known college towns by the spring and summer. And in June of 2011 Apple will release the iPhone 5G for not only AT&T and Verizon, but also for Sprint and T-Moblie.
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Re: My personal prediction

Apple likes to hold something back when they release a product so that its users are always wanting to upgrade. My guess is that if the iphone comes to Verizon the first Version will be 3g only.

Many people will be so excited just to have the iphone on Verizon not being 4g won't stop it from being a huge hit. Then when the LTE version launches many will be looking to upgrade. It will be very similiar to how they launched the first iphone on AT&T's edge network.

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The iPhone4 isn't called the iPhone4G for a reason.

They will not be calling the next iPhone the iPhone5, they will call it the iPhone4G because it will be 4G wireless with LTE.

They did the same thing with the iPhone3G.

The iPhone3G was the 2nd Generation iPhone. Not the 3rd. The 3G stands for 3rd Generation wireless. The iPhone3GS was the 3rd generation iPhone.
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60 or so days..

there is an FCC website somwhere in the bowels of the .gov domain that will be very "TELLING" if there are ANY real plans to make a Verizon (aka cdma) cellphone but you will only have about 60 days notice of that happening because that's when the fcc radio spec documents tend to LEAK TO THE PUBLIC, unlike getting left at a bar somewhere...

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CDMA will not be obsolete in 2013.

Verizon has spent BILLIONS on their CDMA network and they will use it for many years to come. LTE is merely enhancing what already exists. It will bring faster data speeds to smartphones but CDMA (1X and 3G) networks will be around for sometime as they are still very useful. I'm sure they will be used as fallback networks if 4G goes down or for calls/texts when 4G is down (when Verizon starts using LTE VoIP).