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Things Falling Apart For Porn Copyright Troll Prenda
Judge Starts to Notice Strange Odor Emanating From Firm
by Karl Bode 02:28PM Wednesday Mar 13 2013
Porn copyright troll Prenda Law has apparently run afoul of one very tough Judge. We've previously noted how Prenda has been trying to scare broadband users into settling with the company en masse after they've been tracked downloading copyrighted porn films. Like other copyright trolling efforts of this kind, Prenda relies on often unreliable IP address evidence as hard proof, and the goal is to simply generate profits by scaring users into settling.

Prenda however takes things to an entirely other level when it comes to legal system abuse -- enough that this week the firm faced inquiry by United States District Judge Otis Wright in Los Angeles. Popehat has a fairly fantastic break down of specifically why this occurred, citing allegations of everything from shell companies to identity theft. Fast forward to this week, when most Prenda reps couldn't be bothered to attend the inquiry. Popehat's Ken White notes that the hearing proceeded anyway, with U.S. District Court Judge Otis Wright not taking any guff from the porn copyright troll:
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Judge Wright took the bench, grim and stentorian and bow-tied, and immediately commenced to take absolutely no shit from anybody. "I spent the whole weekend reading a deposition," he said, referring to the astounding deposition of Prenda principal Paul Hansmeier. "It is perhaps the most informative thing I have read in this affair so far." There was a collective intake of breath from the onlookers, who guessed that was not a good thing for Prenda Law. They were right. "There was so much obstruction in this deposition that it's obvious that someone has an awful lot to hide," Judge Wright commented later.
In short, things don't look particularly good for Prenda, and it doesn't even appear that the court has begun to get to some of the more ridiculous things allegedly done by the firm. In addition to some borderline comical and possibly criminal bad behavior, Prenda didn't help themselves by pissing off AT&T, Verizon and Comcast, whose lawyers and legal budgets have been fired up to crush what all three companies believe to be an unscrupulous pest.

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Kearnstd
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they made the biggest mistake here.

First rule for any company that bases its offerings on copyright trolling is never piss off federal judges. And they seem to have done just that. If more dirt starts to surface they will not find a court to hear any of their cases if they do not get arrested or disbarred first.

I get the feeling this is just the beginning of things for the copyright lawsuit industry as a whole though. Seems like judges are slowly tiring of mass lawsuits holding up their court rooms.
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battleop

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Re: they made the biggest mistake here.

We have started to see an increase in traffic from Copyright trolls. They call our support / customer service group and just ask them for information thinking they will waste their time handing out customer info. They tell them to call back when they have a court order and then them will pass them through to our corp attorney otherwise don't waste his time. Funny thing is that they never call back.
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ISurfTooMuch

join:2007-04-23
Tuscaloosa, AL

Re: they made the biggest mistake here.

They're likely just looking for the low-hanging fruit. If they can get you guys to surrender the info without having to get a subpoena, it's a good shot at free money for them, provided the customer rolls over and pays a settlement. And if the customer won't settle, the copyright troll can choose to walk away without incurring a significant financial hit. If they have to actually spend money to get that info, then they actually risk losing money if the customer chooses to fight. That messes up their revenue stream. Better to move on to an ISP that will cough up the info more easily.

And this doesn't even take into account the completely fraudulent requests, where the person calling has other, more nefarious reasons for wanting that information.

Ianto Jones

join:2011-01-01
Merchantville, NJ

Re: they made the biggest mistake here.

said by ISurfTooMuch:

They're likely just looking for the low-hanging fruit.

Not only from ISPs, but from broadband subscribers too... And this time, they are fighting back. Of course, there is a lot involved in the case... it's not so much that he didn't do it - but the whole web that is Prenda... and them committing fraud on the court.

I just read the depo that is referenced in the article... almost 300 pages, but entertaining. (I wasn't working today, so I spent the day reading the various articles on this saga)

The judge def. is not happy... I wouldn't be surprised at all if all those associate with Prenda are never heard from again.

Camaro
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said by Kearnstd:

never piss off federal judges

Unless you are the United States government.

Transmaster
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Re: they made the biggest mistake here.

What I find so interesting is how much the porno industry rips off each other. pick an image and put it in Google image/video search and see just how many different sites have the same photo, video, etc.
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cdru
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Re: they made the biggest mistake here.

said by Transmaster:

What I find so interesting is how much the porno industry rips off each other. pick an image and put it in Google image/video search and see just how many different sites have the same photo, video, etc.

Content is relicensed to other sites to use to maximize it's value. If it's only used on one site, then it only gets limited exposure and has limited worth. Just like with popular songs, they may make the most with the initial release, but they will still appear in compilation releases, "Best of", Greatest hits of the decade, etc for years to come.

PapaMidnight

join:2009-01-13
Baltimore, MD

Re: they made the biggest mistake here.

said by cdru:

said by Transmaster:

What I find so interesting is how much the porno industry rips off each other. pick an image and put it in Google image/video search and see just how many different sites have the same photo, video, etc.

Content is relicensed to other sites to use to maximize it's value. If it's only used on one site, then it only gets limited exposure and has limited worth. Just like with popular songs, they may make the most with the initial release, but they will still appear in compilation releases, "Best of", Greatest hits of the decade, etc for years to come.

"Now That's What I Call Music Porn!"
Kearnstd
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said by Camaro:

said by Kearnstd:

never piss off federal judges

Unless you are the United States government.

In which case you just bypass the court systems.

After all the bill of rights and constitution just get in the way of preventing terror and protecting the children!!
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Ianto Jones

join:2011-01-01
Merchantville, NJ

Odd business model....

What I find interesting is according to the depo, no one makes any money off of what they have been doing. Of course, most of all the 'companies' are shell companies owned/ran by the same few people... but no one makes any money, the porn companies transfer the copyrights at no charge, and the $$ made from settlements/law suits just goes back into suing more people.

:shrugs:

Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus

join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY

Re: Odd business model....

My God now I know what water boarding is for. In the old days these clowns would have been "Put To The Question".
tkdslr

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Bench warrents will soon follow...

I don't see this judge leaving it up to some DA or Jury to dispense justice.. Perpetrating a fraud on the court(Perjury), Witness tampering, Contempt of Court, Conspiracy, Identity theft, Thousands of counts of Fraud, Rico..

Any person who claims to represent client of Prenda law is in serious jeopardy.

This Judge is going to issue some bench warrants and send the US Marshals to round them up. They will rot in jail until the fess up about the extent of the deceptions they foisted upon the court(s).