 | | Time Warner just won't quit Will it? If I'm calculating it correctly they're going to give 20 GB of data per month another go. Or, in the worst case scenario, less than 3GB ("lowest quality" stream)
Lovely.
- Netflix: screwed - Online backups: cost more in data transfer than a new hard drive - Apple's Online Store: 40-100% of your monthly data cap - Steam download 40% - Chromebook from Google - a-ha-ha-ha, also dinged by the cap. -- Hyperom: Rants about life, politics, technology | |
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 |  | | Re: Time Warner just won't quit ...because no matter how much or how often you pay for something, they'll always want you to pay more and again. Stealing service from you that you've already paid for isn't enough for them... they'll want to double- and triple-bill you to death, too. | |
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 |  |  | | Re: Time Warner just won't quit Yet people happily accept it and nothing is done about it. | |
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 |  |  |  Camelot OnePremium,MVM join:2001-11-21 Greenwood, IN kudos:1 | Re: Time Warner just won't quit said by poopiepants:Yet people happily accept it and nothing is done about it. Exactly. For all the bitching and moaning that went on when AT&T rolled out their capped service with overage charges, far too many of the complainers did absolutely nothing but eat it. So why shouldn't Time Warner jump on the cash cow too. | |
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 |  |  |  |  | | Re: Time Warner just won't quit and i've been saying that for years! they'll bitch and bitch and say they're leaving but yet NEVER do. And its only a matter of time until the Big Red does it as well. TWC will have it, T already does, and Comcast has a 250gig cap. VZ will add theirs and be done with it. | |
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 |  |  |  elray join:2000-12-16 Santa Monica, CA | said by poopiepants:Yet people happily accept it and nothing is done about it. Actually, we look forward to it.
Last year when they announced the possibility, the unwashed masses shouted them down before a civil discussion could even take place.
The result? 30% of their customer base continues to pay over twice what they would under UBB. | |
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 |  |  |  |  Camelot OnePremium,MVM join:2001-11-21 Greenwood, IN kudos:1 | Re: Time Warner just won't quit said by elray:The result? 30% of their customer base continues to pay over twice what they would under UBB. Exactly how much did AT&T's rates drop when they rolled out theirs? How about Comcast?
The argument that UBB is a good thing because it will mean people who use less will pay less has PROVEN to be complete bull shit. People who use less will continue to pay exactly what they are paying now. (until rates go up again in 6 months) | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  KearnstdElf WizardPremium join:2002-01-22 Mullica Hill, NJ | Re: Time Warner just won't quit Of course, lots of people forget that under UBB you will not drop down to $8/mo line fee and then get billed a "reasonable" rate per unit like Electric.
They miss the fact they will still be getting charged 40+/mo and then a few dollars per gig over their tiny cap.
and things will only get worse because ISPs are also cable companies and as such they have their video business to protect. -- [65 Arcanist]Filan(High Elf) Zone: Broadband Reports | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  | | said by Camelot One:said by elray:The result? 30% of their customer base continues to pay over twice what they would under UBB. Exactly how much did AT&T's rates drop when they rolled out theirs? How about Comcast? The argument that UBB is a good thing because it will mean people who use less will pay less has PROVEN to be complete bull shit. People who use less will continue to pay exactly what they are paying now. (until rates go up again in 6 months) 100 % spot on.
The idea that it will ever get cheaper is laughable at best. | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  elray join:2000-12-16 Santa Monica, CA | Re: Time Warner just won't quit said by DataRiker:said by Camelot One:said by elray:The result? 30% of their customer base continues to pay over twice what they would under UBB. Exactly how much did AT&T's rates drop when they rolled out theirs? How about Comcast? The argument that UBB is a good thing because it will mean people who use less will pay less has PROVEN to be complete bull shit. People who use less will continue to pay exactly what they are paying now. (until rates go up again in 6 months) 100 % spot on. The idea that it will ever get cheaper is laughable at best. TWC's proposed UBB rates, last year, started at $15/month. Unfortunately, the angry mob won without bothering to hear the detail.
AT&T's wireless rates DID drop, substantially, with the introduction of UBB for the iPhone. We've seen similar rate reductions amongst the other carriers - both at the entry-level price point for data, and the per-GB rates charged to higher volume subscribers. You and I might agree they're still high, but they have been slashed from prior years, in most cases.
The effects of AT&T's DSL and UVerse metering have yet to be determined - it would appear that, as usual, their implementation is so incompetent, that they'll GIVE UP on metering, and return to other forms of "network management", and charge more for basic access.
Comcast wisely set the bar high, so as not to give fodder to the "stop the cap" crowd. The very few of you who manage to exceed their generous allotment will have a hard time pleading your case - but its worth a shot. I'm sure cable execs can be convinced to nudge their caps gradually upward, i.e. from 250 to 300 to 350, in order to keep the "hog" count down. | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | | Re: Time Warner just won't quit Caps, whether speed or usage, are not "management" tools; they're PR tools. The ISP wants you to think you're getting more by paying more. Network infrastructure costs money; using network infrastructure costs the ISP nothing extra. It costs the ISP a relatively fixed amount to establish service for a customer, but it costs the ISP nothing extra for whatever amount of "usage" a customer has. Network maintenance is already built-in to the current monthly fee. There will never be true "UBB"; an ISP will always create a formula to use which provides it with some "acceptable" [for it and its "investors"] minimum dollar amount from every customer no matter how much the customer uses. So-called "value" or "economy" accounts will be more like the old dial-up access speeds... 'cause, you know, those customers don't really need broadband anyway, now do they(?). | |
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 |  | | and they already have a soft cap that they do not disclose in their contract. And talk about Google's Chrome book; their 3G access only gives you 5gigs per month so talk about being screwed even by Google! otherwise its $50 per month in buckets of transfer.
By the way- you pay for access to their network not to the Internet. And once they launch their network with a cap, and since T has already done; VZ will be the next to move. | |
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 |  |  | | Re: Time Warner just won't quit Neener, neener! They're doing it too!
Yes, and all of them suck! | |
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 |  |  |  | | Re: Time Warner just won't quit Are you sure 100MB is enough? I mean a single photo attachment is a few megs right there, plus it's always supposed to be connected, or you don't have access to anything -- Hyperom: Rants about life, politics, technology | |
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·Verizon Online DSL
·RoadRunner Cable
·Comcast
| Re: Time Warner just won't quit Keep in mind one thing: they're giving you the 100MB.
For light surfing away from WiFi, it is enough. Depending on how long you're away from WiFi for.
For anything else, pony up $20+ and get a non-recurring month-long data pass. The system actually works quite well on my Cr48. | |
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 | | hmm I just wanna know why usage matters so much? Why pay for something that your not supposed to use a lot? Doesn't make any sense. | |
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