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join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| Broadband to reach 77% of U.S. households by 2012 Just over half of U.S. households currently subscribe to broadband Internet services, but Gartner predicts that that percentage will grow by more than 20 points by 2012. Amanda Sabia, a Gartner principal research analyst, says one of the biggest factors in the spread of broadband will be the advent of such 4G wireless services as WiMAX and Long Term Evolution that are expected to be launched in various markets over the next four years.
yeah right. As long as mobile companies are going to charge $60 a month with only 5 GB caps and $256 per GB overage fees, I seriously doubt this | |
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join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA
| Re: Broadband to reach 77% of U.S. households by 2012 I think (well, hope) that the reasons for the 5 GB caps are primarily technical and have to do with the limits of 1xEVDO and at&t's implementation of UMTS/HSDPA, rather than being implemented "for sheer hatred of the consumer", and that 4G networks will be designed so that the caps are unnecessary, or at least can be raised to something reasonable for home use...
Yeah, I'm probably just dreaming... | |
| | | BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| Re: Broadband to reach 77% of U.S. households by 2012 said by EPS  :I think (well, hope) that the reasons for the 5 GB caps are primarily technical and have to do with the limits of 1xEVDO and at&t's implementation of UMTS/HSDPA, rather than being implemented "for sheer hatred of the consumer", and that 4G networks will be designed so that the caps are unnecessary, or at least can be raised to something reasonable for home use... Yeah, I'm probably just dreaming... Still doesn't explain $256 per GB cap overages. For $199 Verizon will let you have a 10 GB, so if they didn't have the capacity for 10 GB caps you'd think they wouldn't even offer them. Also they list ther overages at 25¢ per MB which seems benign to the average person who doesn't know the differnce between a MB and a GB or how little it takes to use a MB, so I don't think trying to discourage use is what Verizon has in mind. I think just the opposite. I think Verizon wants user to violate the caps so they can collect outrageous overage fees. | |
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join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA
| Re: Broadband to reach 77% of U.S. households by 2012 I think part of the problem is that Verizon doesn't want you to use the service for your regular everyday internet service- they'd much prefer you buy their DSL or FiOS service. (if you don't live in a VZ landline service area, well, too bad essentially) I suppose this could be used as an argument in favor of forcing the separation of landline and cellular companies, but that opens up a massive can of worms... | |
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join:2001-10-01
Parsonsburg, MD
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| Vonage Commits to Refinance quote:
Vonage Holdings Corp. a leading provider of broadband telephone service, announced today it has entered into a commitment letter with Silver Point Finance, LLC ("Silver Point") establishing the terms and conditions for up to $215 million in private debt financing of which Silver Point has committed to provide $125 million.
Please use some of that cash to develop SELECTIVE Call Blocking for your customers, who have been patiently waiting for it forever.
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join:2000-10-11
Lincolnshire, IL
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| Re: Vonage Commits to Refinance Wow, I can't believe they haven't rolled this out yet. We'd been promised call filtering when I joined Vonage in 2003, I got tired of waiting and left them for Asterisk in 2005. It was a bit of a learning curve, but offers the ultimate in call filtering and management in general. | |
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join:2000-10-11
Lincolnshire, IL
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| Re: Vonage Commits to Refinance said by benc :....I'll probably want to buy an Aastra 57i to use with it. The Aastra line is top notch and a bargain compared with Cisco. ! have two Aastras in my home (57i & 53i). Easy to setup with exceptional voice quality.
What provider did you switch to?... I use Telasip as my primary provider and Voicepulse Connect (Voicepulse's asterisk friendly pay-as-you-go offering) as a backup provider and for their international rates.
...Also, it is possible to use Vonage as a SIP trunk. I'm not saying it's the best possible option, but it's possible.... I didn't know Vonage offered SIP trunking. One thing they likely don't offer (like the other providers I use) is simultaneous calling. With five kids total and four living at home, that ability has been a godsend in my house.
For anybody who has any interest at all in Asterisk, I highly recommend Ward Mundy's site which offers a GUI based version of asterisk called PBX in a Flash -> »nerdvittles.com/index.php?p=214 | |
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join:2007-06-17
Glen Carbon, IL
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| Re: Vonage Commits to Refinance said by supergirl :I give them about a year before they file bankruptcy. Their churn rate is horrible. Cable VOIP/Digital Voice/Cellphones with Unlimited Calling is going to kill them. Triple play will become more of a deal. If caps are truly imposed with overage charges, Vonage is over anyway. I wouldn't be surprised if Vonage does file for bankruptcy at some point. Then again people have been saying that for years I think. so you never know.
Unlimited Mobile Phone Plans? Perhaps. There's a $50 price premium between unlimited mobile plans and unlimited POTS, prior to taxes and fees ($100 vs. $50). The cost difference between unlimited mobile and unlimited VOIP is even larger. Since it's easier to share POTS and VOIP the cost difference is even larger.
Caps? Oh please. And for the record, I don't agree with caps at all. However, what VOIP uses is actually quite small. Using G.711 ulaw, the bulkiest VOIP codec, 1GB data = just over 1,609 minutes.
Suppose, as a hypothetical example:
There's a family of four blabbermouths. They each talk three hours a day, and this doesn't include work or mobile phone usage. That's 720 minutes per day, or about 21,916 minutes per month. Using G.711 ulaw, that's about 13.2 GB. On Comcast's 250GB cap, there's still lots of room left. They'd be at a far greater risk of using up that cap for other things.
In real life, I doubt anyone actually talks three hours a day on the phone outside work. If there's anyone who does, they are quite rare.
So, while I disagree with caps, to say that caps will make VOIP hurt is nonsensical. The only way caps will hurt VOIP is if people don't put it all into perspective. | |
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join:2002-04-02
Redwood Valley, CA | US Cellular I didn't know US Celluar is an emerging market, hmmm... 
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