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You'Ve Forgotten 9-11 Already
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join:2001-08-29
Cromwell, CT
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| DRM And they wonder why people steal...
And they wonder why no one ever trust big companies anymore...
Cant wait to see the next big MS lawsuit...20 lawyers are already filing
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www.stopfcc.comI do not think the government needs to restrict free speech especially on a device that has an off knob. | |
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Jason Levine
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join:2001-07-13
Albany, NY
| Re: DRM Well, I don't steal, but this is why I don't buy music from DRM-ed sources. I buy my music either in CD form (so I can rip it to non-DRM-ed MP3s), or in non-DRM-ed MP3 forms (usually from Amie Street, though I've looked at eMusic and Amazon's offerings). | |
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P Ness
You'Ve Forgotten 9-11 Already
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join:2001-08-29
Cromwell, CT
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| Re: DRM said by Jason Levine  :Well, I don't steal, but this is why I don't buy music from DRM-ed sources. I buy my music either in CD form (so I can rip it to non-DRM-ed MP3s), or in non-DRM-ed MP3 forms (usually from Amie Street, though I've looked at eMusic and Amazon's offerings). great cause according to the riaa you just violated copyright by ripping from a CD
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join:2008-01-29
Eustis, FL
 ·Comcast
 ·Embarq
|  MS decision places expiration date on song libraries.
 I guess if Google can treat their customers that way Microsoft can do the same. It is time for a class action suite and a digital consumer's bill of rights. As I said before the RIAA would like to make purchases of copyrighted music pay per play, like Digital Video Express wanted to and were capable of doing to DVDs. Unfortunately for customers that purchased Digital Video Express DVD's, were not able to use them after the company went belly up and turned off their authorization/billing server.
On the other hand there are the following obsolete formats: RCA Tape Cartridge System, RCA Select-A-Vision video playback system, 78, 33 1/3 and 45 RPM Records, Four Track Tapes, Eight Track Tapes, Reel to Reel Tapes, Laser Discs and El Cassettes. The only obsolete formats for which new players are still available are for 78 (Thorens Turntables), 33 1/3 and 45 RPM Records. | |
| | ISurfTooMuch
join:2007-04-23
Tuscaloosa, AL
| Re: MS decision places expiration date on song libraries. said by Mr Matt :On the other hand there are the following obsolete formats: RCA Tape Cartridge System, RCA Select-A-Vision video playback system, 78, 33 1/3 and 45 RPM Records, Four Track Tapes, Eight Track Tapes, Reel to Reel Tapes, Laser Discs and El Cassettes. The only obsolete formats for which new players are still available are for 78 (Thorens Turntables), 33 1/3 and 45 RPM Records. In this case, however, there's a difference. With the formats listed above, hardware manufacturers have simply stopped making the playback hardware, but there is nothing stopping someone from building new players, nor is there anything stopping you from buying as many players as you want to ensure that you will be able to continue playing back your media.
In the case of MSN Music, you're essentially being told that you can't buy any new playback hardware. Not only that, but if you make a change to your existing hardware, such as changing the OS, it will no longer work, even though it is completely capable of working.
I'm not advocating piracy here, but I have to ask the following question: Why should people follow the "rules" and pay their hard-earned money for "legitimate" media when the suppliers are able and apparently quite willing to reward them by kicking them to the curb and essentially stealing back the media they paid for? These people could have downloaded pirated content for free, but they wanted to do the right thing, so they paid for content. And what did they get in return? They got screwed. | |
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viperpa33s
Why Me?
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join:2002-12-20
Bradenton, FL
·Bright House
| DRM is flawed I agree that DRM is flawed and this is why the law needs to be changed. DRM is nothing short of anti consumer. DRM does nothing to stop music piracy, only puts limitations on legitimate music buyers. What Microsoft is doing would be considered fraud. | |
| | Sammer
join:2005-12-22
Pittsburgh, PA
| Re: DRM is flawed said by viperpa33s :I agree that DRM is flawed and this is why the law needs to be changed. DRM is nothing short of anti consumer. DRM does nothing to stop music piracy, only puts limitations on legitimate music buyers. What Microsoft is doing would be considered fraud. Digital Restrictions (it has nothing to do with rights) Management is only about restricting the use of those honest enough to pay. How ironic is "Plays For Sure" now? | |
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK
·Cox HSI
·AT&T Southwest
| Exactly why DRM and other crap is WRONG Gee, wonder why people make "Unauthorized" copies?
Because DRM laden, licensed content is subject to this kind of BS.
It may be illegal, but sometimes, it's the morally right thing to do....
Ever notice when a Corporation lies or cheats or steals, etc from customers and the public it's called "Good business" but if a consumer does the same to a company then it's a crime, called fraud, theft, etc?
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"Regulatory capitalism is when companies invest in lawyers, lobbyists, and politicians, instead of plant, people, and customer service." - former FCC Chairman William Kennard (A real FCC Chairman, unlike the current Corporate Spokesperson in the job!) | |
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
Premium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK
·Cox HSI
·AT&T Southwest
| DirecTV is guilty The reason you know that Newscorp is guilty is because of they way they illegally hid and sent the payments to him. If the "project to reverse engineer" was on the up and up, it would all be above board, not some secret project where you illegally ship money out of the USA hidden inside consumer electronics, which in itself is also a crime.
This smells dirty, and they've gotten caught. Problem is, they probably will get away with it....
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"Regulatory capitalism is when companies invest in lawyers, lobbyists, and politicians, instead of plant, people, and customer service." - former FCC Chairman William Kennard (A real FCC Chairman, unlike the current Corporate Spokesperson in the job!) | |
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