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| Re: Go For It.... said by Jason Levine:Please think of those of us whose only choice in broadband Internet access is Time Warner's Roadrunner. FIOS isn't in my area yet so my only other option would be a slower (and less supported every day) Verizon DSL.
Issue around here is in a lot of MDU's such as apartments the only choice you have is Roadrunner (Brighthouse) and no FiOS even though the businesses and houses near the apartments have FiOS  | |
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kudos:2 | Re: Go For It.... For me, FIOS service is available down the hills but not up on my hills. | |
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| | | | greeedy fuckin assholes.like this is just what i need.
i was just layed off today and will have to be looking for work.
this is bullshit.these greedy fuckers never learn a lesson. | |
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Lincoln, CA | Re: Go For It.... The Goverment distroyed the economy and bailed out the bankers so we can lose our jobs and now the bankers can take our homes. | |
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New Orleans, LA | Re: Go For It.... said by SCUD:The Goverment distroyed the economy and bailed out the bankers so we can lose our jobs and now the bankers can take our homes.
Huh? Can you actually expand on that in depth? Or...are you unable to do anymore in depth with it b/c frankly....THE GOVERNMENT IS SUPER EVIL! | |
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| | | | | Re: Go For It.... Think of others for what? They are already doing their part by not giving their money to TW. Its up to us TW subscribers to make the next move. If TW continues we either need to switch or do without. Im prepared to do whichever is necessary. I will not be made to worry about one more bill. Right now I know what the total is every month. Im not going to sit here counting bytes and worrying how much im going to get raped. For those who agree with metered billing....GFY....realize your bill will never get cheaper because you didnt do much that month. Metered billing means your going to pay whatever your paying now and then some. | |
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|  N3OGHYo Soy Col. "Bat" GuanoPremium
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New Orleans, LA | I have FiOS and love it but Verizon will eventually make our service a capped service at some point
And...at least in the several major cities that I have lived in the last few years....FiOS just isn't offered in THAT many places at the moment (in terms of the entire country that is). | |
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I bet they'll conveniently refrain from implementing bandwidth caps on their NYC subscribers... just like they've added the most HD channels in the country to that system, and it's probably the cheapest Time Warner system in the country to subscribe to. | |
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Lincoln, CA | Re: Go For It.... most of my post are not posted...this is a communits website? | |
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|  Noah VailSon made my AvatarPremium
join:2004-12-10
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| said by kdwycha:I will stick with Verizon FiOS and never consider moving to Brighthouse Networks (Roadrunner) internet ever again. The article is about Time Warner Roadrunner, not Brighthouse Roadrunner.
Time Warner's Roadrunner isn't even available in Riverview.
The two are independent companies that largely have nothing to do with each other.
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join:2000-10-07 | Very happy to not be a Time Warner victim anymore I moved to a new home with a different service provider, Surewest. Time Warner could provide me service, but I don't like slow internet speeds, poor HD picture quality and being forced to pay 3 times for a single product. | |
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| | | Re: Very happy to not be a Time Warner victim anymore Well if I hadn't already change cable companies I would now. I am one of the lucky ones. Have two options. | |
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What a tool bag....
Him, not you..... | |
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| | Not fixed. People always seems to forget maint. cost and payroll. Installers and CSR don't work for free and assuming you just do your standard 3-5% increase every year than you have to get that money somewhere. | |
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| | | Re: Not fixed. True, payroll for the CEO is $18 million, which isn't much compared to Comcast which pays 30. Paying 1000% more for bandwidth and rationing our internet use is the least we can do to help Mr. Britt feel better. | |
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This is just fictictional. Don't want to go to work and have people ask me how I make 100k.
They would also say "so that's how you bought that 2011 suzuki sx4." | |
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| | | | | Re: Not fixed. said by mikedz4:he's paying himself since he also owns the company. That's like me starting a grocery store that makes $2million a year and of that I pay myself $100k.
This is just fictictional. Don't want to go to work and have people ask me how I make 100k.
They would also say "so that's how you bought that 2011 suzuki sx4."
Time Warner Cable is a publicly traded company. The CEO does not own the company unless he owns stock (which is normally in his benefits) and then he would only be a partial owner. Even though he may run the company he does not have the authority to pay whatever salary he chooses. The CEO's salary is determined by the board of directors. | |
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|  BF69Premium
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Camden, TN | said by AndyDufresne:People always seems to forget maint. cost and payroll. Installers and CSR don't work for free and assuming you just do your standard 3-5% increase every year than you have to get that money somewhere.
Maintenance cost are part of your regular bill. When my bill goes up I assume it's to pay for increased cost of such things. Also YOU don't take into consideration that other costs are going DOWN. Also overages don't help with increased cost if no one goes over them do they? | |
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| | | | Re: Not fixed. The biggest cost to any business is payroll. Lets say they maint cost and payroll cost cancel each other out, they don't but lets just go there. If you have a public company then you have shareholders that expect a ROI. You either grow your customer base or increase what you charge your current customers. It is cheaper to charge your current subs more than to acquire and retain a new sub. We are screwed since most of us are serviced by a publicly traded company whose shareholders want and demand a good return. | |
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| | | | | Re: Not fixed. Nothing wrong with demanding a good return. That is healthy business.
The problem is demanding an increasing rate of return, always, every quarter, over and over and over again. That is completely unsustainable without gouging someone along the line. That is very much unhealthy - and causes a lot of bad bubbles in the stock market.
It should be enough that a company has solid profits. It isn't anymore and that is the root of a lot of trouble. | |
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Alexandria, VA
kudos:2 | Re: Not fixed. If management isn't growing revenue, they aren't doing their jobs. It's really as simple as that. | |
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| | | | | | | Re: Not fixed. From a short sighted instant gratification view, yes you are correct.
I know it may be hard for you to hear and accept this, but sometimes a company has to actually invest (spend) large sums of money to bring future profits and reduce future expenses.
This may hurt you poor instant gratification stock jockeys, but tough shit, that is just the way it is. | |
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kudos:2 | Re: Not fixed. Of course investments must be made to grow a company. It's company specific depending on the capital allocation strategy, but you won't see me frown upon smart investment. Planned investments should project revenue growth otherwise the expense is suspect IMO. | |
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Irving, TX | Actually, no. Increasing return and profits is THE ONLY goal for business. Never forget it... I would hope that the companies I invest in are focused on nothing more than sustainable profit growth. | |
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join:2001-02-14
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kudos:4 Reviews:
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| You assume that the fee for Internet is strictly cost based. I have my doubts. Back in the mid-90s, when I first got hooked on anime (Japanese animation), I was buying VHS tapes of anime. The subtitled versions of any given show were typically $4 more a pop than the English voice overdubbed versions.
So break down the costs:
• Licensing fees to the Japanese rights holder
• Contract translator fees to get the English dialog
• Hire an editor to adjust the dialog to fit timing, lip flaps
• Hire the technician to put the subtitles on the screen
This is what you would pay to produce the subtitled version of the show. However, for the dubbed version, it looks like this:
• Licensing fees to the Japanese rights holder
• Contract translator fees to get the English dialog
• Hire an editor to adjust the dialog to fit timing, lip flaps
• Hire the technician to put the subtitles on the screen
• Hire a crew of actors to speak the parts
Paying those actors, technically speaking, makes the cost of production of the dubbed version of the show higher than the cost of production of the subtitled version.
Now, explain to me in terms of cost basis, how they could charge less for the costlier production?
Companies will charge what the traffic will bear, if they can.
For the anime, the producers took advantage of the purists, who insisted on the superiority of the subtitled versions of the show; basically, the demand for subs was higher than the demand for dubs.
For Internet, if the providers can convince the subscribers that there are "bandwidth hogs" sucking up the bandwidth, and punitive pricing is necessary to curb their appetites, the subscribers will buy into it. TWC's problem was failure to adjust the numbers to a level that would not rile the rank and file. When the finalized version of caps was implemented by AT&T, they picked a threshold (150 GB), and a pricing model ($1 for every 5 GB over) that wouldn't upset the subs. As a fairly heavy user, my usage was not actually threatening to bust the cap. I know four AT&T subs who will never get close to the cap at their current levels of usage. TWC will just return with a "more reasonable" gouge.
BTW, I went ahead and kicked AT&T to the curb anyway. With Sonic.net Fusion service, I don't have caps.
About »Re: Data Caps?
AT&T can just pound sand.
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| | | | | Re: Not fixed. said by hottboiinnc:what costs are going down (and provide factual proof)? Upgrading and adding more channels does NOT force costs to go down. That forces costs to go UP.
How does adding more channels justify UBB on internet access? This discussion is not about television (other than UBB's primary goal is to make it too expensive for streaming video, thereby protecting television revenue). | |
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| Re: Not fixed. gotta pay for those new channels some where. And didn't you read the part where I said that the last rate hike was on RR customers and NOT TV? They changed their way of raising TV prices so they could get more for those new channels. RR went up 3% when compared to TV NOT going up. There was a HUGE talk about it on the RR/TWC board here; but again- failed to make the "news". | |
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| | Making the switch Great. Was just about to leave AT&T because of the caps and now my only other option TW is possibly following their business model. Son of a..... | |
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| | Pure Greed Absolutely no technical reason for caps. Everybody will pay more. A lot more.
This will only hasten the development of free off grid mesh networks. I would definitely operate a node to do my part. | |
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join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2 | Re: Pure Greed How does that solve your metered connection issue? | |
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| | | said by DataRiker:Absolutely no technical reason for caps. Everybody will pay more. A lot more.
This will only hasten the development of free off grid mesh networks. I would definitely operate a node to do my part.
There's always the hope white spaces will do something. Probably not though. | |
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join:2009-07-08
New Orleans, LA | Time-Warner and others have done a fantastic job convincing so many that several GB's is now an "abuser"
How many times have we seen people come on here and claim that a 2gb cap is enough for the iPad/iPhone? When someone brings up someone wanting to watch a 'few' movies on Hulu/Netflix...people complain that this "abuser" shouldnt be doing that.
Huh?
Remember the old days when abusers were the people downlading thousands of GB's? Now, we have suddenly made 5gb users into the "thousands of GB" users
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| | Ugh caps Well since my only other option would be AT&T Uverse which isn't an option, if they put in caps I'll just drop TW for cable and go to Direct TV, then keep roadrunner. I can't hurt them on the broadband side but I can on the TV side. | |
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| Re: Ugh caps TWC figured away around that. They raise the RR product price as well. They started doing that two years ago and still do it. It was a HUGE talked about issue in the RR board here. But never really made the news. Dunno why though. The increase was about $3 on average. TV customers didn't really see the cost though.
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| Re: So... Earthlink? they would but you'd be at the mercy of what TWC wants them to resell. the same with other ISPs that sell in your market (which is another besides Earthlink). On the upside you'd still have to pay TWC each month. Elink is NOT allowed to do their own billing and will only provide VERY VERY basic troubleshooting. Basically modem reboot otherwise after that will call RR to trouble shoot while you're on hold. If that happens. Otherwise you may get a truck roll in a week or two since Elink would talk to TWC via a ticket/email system. | |
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join:2000-08-05
Mentor, OH
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| Go for it, but open up market first. I say go for it. But before they do, they must open up their areas to second party re-sellers, or to even other cable companies.
I so hate the way the internet stuff has gone. Before during the days of dail up, you had a lot of companies begging for your money.
Today with the competition seems to have shrunk. DSL, you only have the telco in your area. Granted if you can find a second party provider of DSL, you might be able to go with them.
Cable: Forget competition. They refuse to lease their line to re-sellers. Unlike telcos. Which means they can do as they wish. Because in areas like mine, you either have dail up or cable. AT&T is to damn lazy to run DSL to my door [even though my neighbor 5 houses down has it].
satellite services: How many are there, and do they even compare with Cable or DSL?
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join:2000-09-20
Washington, DC
kudos:1 | Repeating the lie... Repeat the lie enough and people think it's the truth?
AT&T has a bandwidth shortage? Really?
2 GB on a smart phone is the best they can do? Really?
At this point the providers have to lie to cover the lie...
Not fooling me though...
My goal remains to use as much data as possible on my iPhone 4 with AT&T. You can call me an abuser if you want to, but I pay for unlimited and I use it that way.
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| Re: I think they should break up the cable companies you have options. You fail to see and use them. with TWC you have options for Internet. with Comcast you have some what of a choice- you can get Earthlink over some of their network. You have 3 and 4G networks available now days and also WISPs that cover areas that you don't even know about - due to smaller companies do NOT advertise. | |
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| Re: I think they should break up the cable companies said by IowaCowboy:I currently only have one choice right now and that is Comcast. Verizon is maxed out on DSL. It took six truck rolls to fix an issue with constantly dropping connections. And calling Comcast customer service is futile because the CSRs are trained to blame customer equipment. That is why I wish they had to answer to state PUCs so I could escalate my issue when Comcast refuses to fix their equipment and lines. My bad experience with Comcast is the reason I am against broadband monopolies/duopolies and why I support competition. The reason my issue was fixed because I had one of the few dedicated techs who really took his time. The others just plugged their meters in, said the signal is fine and took off. Maybe breaking them up may not be the answer but making them answer to state PUCs may make them more accountable. Electric utilities answer to state PUCs and my electric service is much more reliable than my broadband.
Disconnect your broadband maybe? I didn't realize it was a life necessity. You have a choice... pay them, use someone else, or don't use the service. For goodness sake, don't advocate MORE government involvement in private business. The government couldn't run a hot dog stand, much less tell a telecommunciations company how to bill for thier services. | |
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| Re: I think they should break up the cable companies We've seen first hand what the Gov't does to a business. Take a look at the USPS and the great Amtrak that the gov't decided to buy and keep afloat. They were both and still are money tanks. The USPS was finally spun off but still in a shit hole due to the way they were ALWAYS allowed to operate. and Amtrak- LOL. WHO wants to pay $1,000+ for a train ticket when you can take a plane cheaper or even MegaBus for $4.50 ROUND TRIP! | |
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| | | Re: last time I can give you links to several other providers where they're coverage actually overlaps. Even links to other DSL providers, imagine that | |
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Grants Pass, OR | Re: Are they going to learn? Guys I have said it before. Metered billing is the FUTURE like it or not. I am completely against it myself. But, all it takes is a big ISP to ignore the backlash and get it rolling. Others will certainly follow. It is just a matter of who goes first. But with all the bitching and moaning. People will still pay and they know it. | |
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join:2005-06-27
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| Re: Are they going to learn? That's fine. But my State Government better ensure that those meters are correct. They have to certify them like they do Gas Pumps, Electric Meters, Gas Meters, and the Scales used at our local Mejiers for the U scan check outs. Hell Im on comcast's network, we have had caps for freggin ever.
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| Re: Are they going to learn? gov't can NOT regulate those meters. Why? They have NO CONTROL over the Internet. Nice Try and the scales used at stores are ALL checked NOT just the ones on Self Scan check outs. And you cap was asked of so customers got it. Thank your fellow customers for that. | |
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With the continually plummeting cost of hardware
Just what hardware costs are plummeting?
The cost of DWDM/ROADM equipment to deliver bandwidth to POP and hub sites hasn't changed in several years. So adding a 10gig or 40gig or 100gig wavelength hasn't changed.
10gig price per port on SWITCHES has dropped, but SWITCHES are not routers. 10gig ports for older routers are still expensive, 40gig ports are really expensive, and 100gig ports are non-existent.
In order to decrease router interface costs, all new routers must be bought, which doesn't decrease your per port cost at all, because you have started over with new hardware so that you can grow into the future (ie. 4 - 5 years.) Then you're buying all new linecards and router upgrades again.
Please don't pretend to know that hardware costs are plummeting when you haven't been quoting, buying, and installing new hardware for the last 15 years. | |
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| Re: Just WHAT hardware costs are plummeting? I'm not convinced you've been building / maintaining networks for long. Cost per Mbit has been dropping for years. Routers, switches, long-haul optical gear... all of it. Running a large network is a careful balancing act. You don't run out and buy 100G gear as soon as it hits the market -- insanely expensive 1st gen tech. And you don't hang on to equipment for decades past when the manufacturer forgets they even made it. For the record, I've worked for companies that have done both... the former bankrupted the company, and the later led to an extended disruption of operations.
That in mind, TW's original deployment of 7200UBR's should have been replaced (ALL OF THEM) long ago. The fact that any are still in use is a testament to their greed -- every dime of profit goes in their pocket instead of inevitable infrastructure upgrades. With 10k's, rolling out DOCSIS 3 is a fairly simple, inexpensive process of swapping line cards. Even a brand new Cisco 10k-UBR, fully loaded, can be had for ~250k. (one off, direct from Cisco with no discounts. someone as large as TW gets deep discounts.)
And the bottom line here isn't crying over the costs of maintaining their infrastructure (which is really the definition of being in f'ing business). It's about ISPs increasing profits by doing nothing but charging more for exactly the same thing. They are profitable now, even in the midst of "expensive" hardware upgrades. The profits they make today are not the maximum profits they could be making if they were to charge per bit. They know it's going to piss off every one of their customers. They also know those customers have no choice but to agree to the raping. | |
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| | | | Re: Just WHAT hardware costs are plummeting? Yes, cost per megabit has gone down relative to port speeds. I think I already mentioned that per port costs were down.
But you have to upgrade a lot of hardware to get to those speeds, mostly with a complete swap out of current hardware after you hit the backplane limits of routers you've already spend hundreds of thousands, if not millions on. If you don't upgrade the router you're using, then you spend more on ports than you would with a newer platform. Yet, if you buy that platform, you have to buy all new hardware. Yes, I know it's the cost of doing business, yet it's still a cost.
uBR7200's fully support DOCSIS3 with the right NPE and linecard upgrades. uBR10k's are over 7 years old now, so why aren't you calling for TWC to dump those too? They've also been upgraded to handle DOCSIS3, yet it is a 7 year old CMTS, based on the 13 year old Cisco 10000 platform. The higher capacity D3 cards for these things cost less "per megabit" but the cards are still more expensive than the previous gen cards.
So again, where is the PLUMMETING? | |
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With the continually plummeting cost of hardware
Just what hardware costs are plummeting? The cost of DWDM/ROADM equipment to deliver bandwidth to POP and hub sites hasn't changed in several years. So adding a 10gig or 40gig or 100gig wavelength hasn't changed. 10gig price per port on SWITCHES has dropped, but SWITCHES are not routers. 10gig ports for older routers are still expensive, 40gig ports are really expensive, and 100gig ports are non-existent. In order to decrease router interface costs, all new routers must be bought, which doesn't decrease your per port cost at all, because you have started over with new hardware so that you can grow into the future (ie. 4 - 5 years.) Then you're buying all new linecards and router upgrades again. Please don't pretend to know that hardware costs are plummeting when you haven't been quoting, buying, and installing new hardware for the last 15 years. I don't source the equipment, but even a lay person can assume that over 10 years that the signaling equipment will be more cost effective. Example: 100gbit switch prices will cost what 10gbit switches cost 10 years ago. That's reasonable progress of R&D and evolution within the backbone industry's cost of running a network. Perhaps other costs increase to offset new hardware investment gains but where the rubber meets the road in relation to this thread Cable companies are screwing customers.. particularly where there is little to NO comeptetition. The point about what ISPs pay for bandwidth is moot. If they're getting ripped off and trying to pass the cost on consumers.. good luck because bit for bit Verizon seems to be the only company proving that economic data false year after year.
Internet bandwidth is a service consumers WILL pay for increased speed tiers, not capped by the byte blocks of data. That alone in moderate densities are worth the investment for FTTP or robust (NOT AT&T's model) FTTN. Even if docsis 3 was done right could do symmetric 50/50 later THIS YEAR, instead of whenever they get around to losing enough customers and the cable company board doesn't want to give some white collar schmuck new stock options. Put the new innovations in front of them, they WILL pay more for them. Then they won't have to worry about bi annual cable-tv rate increases so much. Evolve the business model. Paying for video content is peaking or worse down cycling.. paying for internet is thriving. | |
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So why don't they just continue to offer unlimited service, but only if you subscribe to their TV service as well? | |
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Fortunately the new house is in a part of town where I have a choice of providers.
Actually you should have see the real estate agent and the owner's faces as I ran speed tests for my cellular provided at each home we considered -- and especially at the (very nice) house located 29,000 feet from the POP and behind the huge mountain that forced cell service on Edge to ONE bar. Oh, and TWC was the only provider at that particular house. "$780k, No thanks." | |
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| netflix & iptv I suspect this is more of a means to push netflix and future iptv providers out of the market and ensure they're sub par tv service stays around for as long as possible.
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| Time to Take their Companies Down Remember that these companies are public, and their value comes from us giving them money.
Maybe it's time to sacrifice ourselves, and just give up all telecommunications service since they want to keep us in the Stone Age to steal more $. It might cause them to rethink if we for once all banded together and stopped feeding the pig.
As for expecting government to intervene, they'll likely remove all FCC restrictions regarding ownership of cable companies, from the restrictions that don't allow any company to have 30% of subscribers, so anyone who doesn't cap and meter will be bought out.
Maybe we should let them just kill the internet. Without the internet, they're bankrupt and Glenn Britt's on a bread line. Man, does that sight ever excite me. | |
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| | | Re: Time to Take their Companies Down yah and people say the same thing about fuel. I haven't seen any one stop driving due to fuel costs yet. | |
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Are they going to learn?