 | | Everything goes up This is not news. Everything increases. GAS prices go up and down daily yet no one says much about it. You dont see Senators arguing over BP vs Shell like they do about FOX News and MSNBC. If the economy is that bad how come I cannot find a good parking spot at the mall. How come I cannot walk right in at the high end food joints and find a seat without waiting? If the economy is that bad this is a luxury not a right to have cable service. It is a business and it is allowed to make money. And it is allowed to make as much money as it wants. | |
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kudos:2 | Re: Everything goes up Come on AT&T....
Bring in Uverse and I'll drop TWC in a HEARTBEAT. | |
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| | | | Re: Everything goes up Actually I juts got a card in the mail that uverse pricing was going up. Each TV package was going up like $2 and the lower tiers of internet was going up $5 a piece. | |
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Camden, TN | said by Heated Man:This is not news. Everything increases. GAS prices go up and down daily yet no one says much about it. You dont see Senators arguing over BP vs Shell like they do about FOX News and MSNBC. You just said it, gas sometimes goes DOWN in price. When is the last time cable companies have LOWERED their priices? | |
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| | | | Re: Everything goes up said by BF69:said by Heated Man:This is not news. Everything increases. GAS prices go up and down daily yet no one says much about it. You dont see Senators arguing over BP vs Shell like they do about FOX News and MSNBC. You just said it, gas sometimes goes DOWN in price. When is the last time cable companies have LOWERED their priices? Mine lowered my internet cost by $10 a year ago. | |
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You just said it, gas sometimes goes DOWN in price. When is the last time cable companies have LOWERED their priices?
Mine lowered the price for internet by $10, increased the download speed by 20% and doubled the upload speed! As the cost of bandwidth goes DOWN, so should the prices..... | |
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| | | | | Re: Everything goes up They should go down but we all know they don't. Infact they keep going higher meaning they're getting more money they don't spend on properly tending to their infrastructure. | |
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Camden, TN | said by crazyk4952:Mine lowered the price for internet by $10, increased the download speed by 20% and doubled the upload speed! As the cost of bandwidth goes DOWN, so should the prices.....
said by fifty nine:Mine lowered my internet cost by $10 a year ago.
Funny I could have sworn the article was about cable TV. | |
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| | | | | | Re: Everything goes up To be fair, the two services are often connected. There's a definite price connection. | |
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Last week I called TW and threatened to cancel service, to keep me as a customer the rep lowered my bill from $94 down to $56 (two HDTV STBs).
Im very surprised!!
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| said by BF69:said by Heated Man:This is not news. Everything increases. GAS prices go up and down daily yet no one says much about it. You dont see Senators arguing over BP vs Shell like they do about FOX News and MSNBC. You just said it, gas sometimes goes DOWN in price. When is the last time cable companies have LOWERED their priices? Time Warner lowered our broadband rate offer twice in the past four months, without us having to go to retentions.
The prior year, telco offered up massive price reductions for over six months, and even further with retention.
Cellcos has been reducing rates substantially across the board for the past two years. We now pay $27 a month for 1500 minutes, something that cost $75 a month less than three years ago.
Competitive rates mean that consumers have to be diligent, read their bills, and be prepared to renegotiate at least once a year.
Sorry, but the nanny-state isn't going to mandate price fixing for you, and that's a good thing - as we would never see the service improvements, or even broadband, if telco/cableco could hide behind regulation and just collect fixed rates of return. Been there, done that. No thanks. | |
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Camden, TN | Re: Everything goes up said by elray:said by BF69:said by Heated Man:This is not news. Everything increases. GAS prices go up and down daily yet no one says much about it. You dont see Senators arguing over BP vs Shell like they do about FOX News and MSNBC. You just said it, gas sometimes goes DOWN in price. When is the last time cable companies have LOWERED their priices? Time Warner lowered our broadband rate offer twice in the past four months, without us having to go to retentions. WOW you Einstiens keep bringin up internet when the article CLEARLY is tlaking about TV. Funny how you geniuses don't bring that up.
Also who said anything about nanny state? Please enough with the hyperbole. I'm tired of anarchists that think if we got rid of all government we'd be better off. | |
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| | | | When is the last time gas improved? Cable products improve all the time. Internet speeds climb, TV channels get added. New features are added. What has gas done? Nothing. | |
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Irmo, SC | I imagine they'll see a lot more of dropping their services soon. With the evolution of the internet and the ability to have entertainment from there, which is equal to if not better in some peoples opinion, I imagine their fatcat ways will change.
The strangle hold that they have on so many markets, the slow adaptation with technology, but yet the ever increasing prices don't mesh...when there is no competition due to the fact that TWC's deep pockets keep competition out, it's hardly a fair deal.
Just because they can...doesn't mean they should.
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kudos:4 | said by Heated Man:It is a business and it is allowed to make money. And it is allowed to make as much money as it wants.
You speak heresy here. Don't you know that you are advocating for the American Way? You will be stoned for your opinion.{/sarcasm} | |
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Irmo, SC | Re: Everything goes up I'm absolutely all for capitalism, but to continually raise rates on the same product, or an even more inferior one than years prior as the technology ages, but no upgrades are made?
Again, sure they can do it, but it's a pretty dick move. How long do you hang out with the asshole at the party? | |
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| | | | | Re: Everything goes up said by Koil:I'm absolutely all for capitalism, but to continually raise rates on the same product, or an even more inferior one than years prior as the technology ages, but no upgrades are made?
Hey I have the same opinion about my taxes. They keep going up and I don't seem to be getting any more for my money. In fact local gov'ts are cutting services, so why do my taxes keep going up? | |
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Irmo, SC | Re: Everything goes up said by fifty nine:said by Koil:I'm absolutely all for capitalism, but to continually raise rates on the same product, or an even more inferior one than years prior as the technology ages, but no upgrades are made?
Hey I have the same opinion about my taxes. They keep going up and I don't seem to be getting any more for my money. In fact local gov'ts are cutting services, so why do my taxes keep going up? lack of personal and professional responsibility, abundance of socialized programs that put the burden of some peoples livelihood on others, infrastructure, salary, and horrible wasteful spending to name a few... is that why my cable bill goes up, too?
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| | | | | | | Re: Everything goes up said by FBGuy:possibly to pay for a few wars.
I was referring primarily to state and local taxes. Local taxes don't pay for wars. | |
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join:2005-03-19 | Re: Everything goes up local taxes pay for your poorly chosen city and state leaders. either get them voted out or move. thats the only solution. | |
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| | | | | Re: Everything goes up and should get something back! I gave up on TWC a few years ago just because of all of their price increases. That bothered me for one simple reason, the service was staying the same or getting worse. That told me their internal cost (salaries) are quickly rising with no controls in place. Haven't looked back since. Now, that I am moving around between U-Verse and WoW I can see who has the best service. Like the U-Verse setup, not fond of AT&T though. Like WoW Internet service, don't like their cable system. WoW is not investing in their system, but the prices are staying stable for the time being. Thought about U-Verse TV, really liked that, WoW for Internet and of course T-Mo for VoIP. U-Verse and DSL just doesn't work well right now because of the distance limitation where I am. But, maybe when AT&T upgrades their system in my area, DSL will finally work. | |
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Again, sure they can do it, but it's a pretty dick move. How long do you hang out with the asshole at the party?
unfortunately, until a provider that's not an asshole comes along, or until you decide to give up service.
welcome to broadband, US style. | |
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Irmo, SC | Re: Everything goes up Exactly, and my point to MMH is that, again, while its possible, doesn't make it right and sure as shit doesn't gain you anything with your customer base, who WILL eventually turn on your ass once something viable comes along, and my thinking is that viable is the internet.
Of course, then they'll just go to the government looking for a handout because of some unforeseen circumstances, and they're just simply too big to fail. Is that part of the American Dream, too? It seems for corporations it is.
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Brooklyn, NY | said by Romney2012:said by Heated Man:It is a business and it is allowed to make money. And it is allowed to make as much money as it wants.
You speak heresy here. Don't you know that you are advocating for the American Way? You will be stoned for your opinion.{/sarcasm} You're confusing American Way with Monopolist Crook Scumbag Way, pal.
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kudos:4 | Re: Everything goes up said by antdude:Remember back in the old days when candies were a few cents and stuff? still are!
only they come in dollar wrappers!
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| | | said by Heated Man:.....How come I cannot walk right in at the high end food joints and find a seat without waiting?.....
Because a not so insignificant percentage of people have been awashed with cash lately. Markets up, bonuses have never been higher, and the Fed keeps pumping billions onto the American people. | |
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Valencia, CA | Re: Everything goes up Devaluating the dollar = inflation.
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| en102Canadian, eh?
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Valencia, CA | said by Heated Man:This is not news. Everything increases. GAS prices go up and down daily yet no one says much about it. You dont see Senators arguing over BP vs Shell like they do about FOX News and MSNBC.
Gas prices are a 'COMMODITY' - traded on an international basis - and as a result there are wars over oil. BP vs. Shell isn't as big of a deal - first of all - they're both multinational companies - and oil is traded as a commodity. There are multiple companies selling gas... Shell, BP, Valero, Chevron, Mobile, Arco, and many mom+pop stations.
TV is .. what ? A luxury - sold by up to 4 companies... 1 cable/market, 1 telco/market, up to 2 satellite providers/market.
Gas has gone up... gas has gone down. Cable/satellite/Telco TV has gone 1 direction... up. There is a claim that they're providing more service... 500 channels and nothing on.
More/longer ads, less content, and yet higher price.
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| Re: Everything goes up said by en102:TV is .. what ? A luxury So why do people keep paying for it?
I dropped my cable eight years ago when it went up from $30 to $35 or some such. Now it runs around $50-$60. I can't say that anybody in my house has missed it. The kids griped a lot when we made the switch but they eventually came to terms with it.
The boob tube is not worth $60+ dollars a month, IMHO. | |
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Valencia, CA | Re: Everything goes up I'm inclined to agree.
Time for rabbit ears if I 'need' TV. | |
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New Orleans, LA | Yet...where are the product increases that come from the rate increases? Where?
I have no issue with usual increases if it meant seeing ACTUAL significant increases yet my friends have TW and see ZERO upgrades yet significant increases over the years
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| | | said by Heated Man:This is not news. Everything increases. GAS prices go up and down daily... But cable prices only go up, never down. And as prices rise more people are going to embrace alternatives (legal or not) in an effort to save money. Remember when gas was $4 a gallon? You saw less unnecessary travel, people stopped buying less fuel efficient vehicles (trucks and SUV's), and so on. Eventually we will get to a point where the asking price is more than people are willing to pay. | |
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| | | Salaries don't always go up.... I don't know if everything goes up... Also, what goes up must come down! 8-) | |
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| | | Wait, cable internet is not a luxury for me. I need it for school. I can not go to the local library and be sure that their machines fit the specifications that the school requires. Also, I can not go to the school and do the work there, I am required to submit things online. I do get the spirit of your message, but everything does not go up, nor does it have to go up. That's the problem with the belief in infinite growth. Pretty soon the whole system will come crashing down. | |
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| | | everything does go up.i got glasses 4 years ago and they cost me $230 and now the same glasses are costing me $421.
that is right i am paying over $400 just to have eyesight. | |
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| Re: Wait until the whining starts! Not likeley. Too many people still have money. Some I think actually feel the more they pay the better the service or better their bragging rights. Oh we are in a horrible economy but my cable went up and I can still afford it wjhen others are dropping it. I am great. | |
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| dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium
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kudos:4 | Re: Can't blame DVR service fee hike on programming costs yacht payments still need to be made!
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| My notice Yes, things go up, but the price of tech always goes down. TWC is ridiculous in this increase and it will cost them more customers than they think.
Here is my notice on the bill I got a few days ago:
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Coventry, RI | Re: My notice Only $.50/month for the remote! What a deal. | |
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kudos:1 | Re: My notice A mere 66.6% increase there - luck that wasn't for the whole bill. | |
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| | Crap Got a $7 bump in my latest bill... nice. | |
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| | TW blames 'entertainment costs' Well my Manhattan bill says "higher programming costs", innovative new features, and more backbone.
Yeah that's why cable tv was out 3 days in Nov when I finally cut the cord. But Roadrunner going to $50 standard.
Triple package all can eat is close to $200 w/ 6 prems.
Basic TV @$50 with fees.
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join:2000-08-05
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| I'd love to g back to the 70's Meaning:
No sat. or internet service bills. Just OTA and analog telephone service.
Funny how the econmoy still sucks, but yet companies have no trouble increasing their prices.
I figure as long as the consumer is willing to take, ten the companies will continue to hike the prices.
How high do they have toget, before anyone will be willing to drop the services.
After all cable, sat., internet are luxuary services. They are not needed for day to day life. Unlike gas, electric and phone [phone for emergency calls].
Sadly though, my wife is addicted to the stuff. Me, I'd rather read a book, then watch TV or play games on line.
Plus, she'll use the excuse every other parent will use "Our children need the internet. They'll be disadvantaged if they don't have it"... ya, right.
Pull the plug I say, and shut the company down. But that wont happen, to many sheeple gotta have their shows, their sports, their internet...
Sad, really sad.
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| | Time Warner Cable BS!! I got the notice that my stand- alone internet is going up $5.00.
They advertise internet for $34.95. They dont tell you that is ONLY if you buy all their other services with it. The full package was priced at $495.00 /mo . ( That's internet, digital phone, HDTV service, no premium channels, 2 HD boxes, 2 remotes )
I canceled and went with DirecTV. 500 Channels, HDTV, 2 boxes w/remotes $69.00/mo.
Time Warner now charges me $54.95/mo for internet alone. The service is out more than it is up, and has frequent slowdowns or disconnects.
Verizon is now advertising that Fios is now available in our area...
Fios... here I come.!!!! | |
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Rosendale, NY | It wouldn't be so bad if they would maintain their equipment, and instead of coming up with new "features," getting the existing working correctly.
After two years that crappy Mystro application for their digital cable is STILL garbage. Digital signals get worse every day. More outages. And they never have visited the repeater on the pole across the street to change its battery. When they are told about this, they still do nothing.
If you want to raise rates, give us better service AT LEAST! Giving us the same crappy service is just rude. Especially when they are the only game in town.
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Brooklyn, NY | Disgusting scumbag MONOPOLY and as such... ...it should be investigated and fined for BILLIONS then regulated.
TWC is a shitty service, a company run by rotten crooks, a truly dispecable PoS. | |
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| | Everything DOES go up, but not by that much Simply put, there is NO competition for TV services. There are at most 3-4 'choices'
1) Cable (TWC)
2) Dish
3) Directv
4) UVerse
They ALL price their services to be about the same in cost, thereby eliminating 'competition'. They all add 'value' type services to justify their cost and typically not what I want, which is a lower bill. Uverse charges $10 for HD. I mean come on.
The only way to stop things is to cut the cable. | |
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Hilliard, OH | Programming? Of course NOBODY cites the programming rate hikes as cause for this. Karl even makes fun of the cable companies when they go through these disputes. Typical. | |
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where are those minimum wage pay raises coming? $7/hour isn't going to cut it anymore... people on "workfare reform" make more than that. | |
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| | Satellite bound Just looked at my bill...$17 price increase. This after making free channels(ESPN Classic, Disney OD, etc) pay for services. A price increase at 5 times inflation is rediculous. Bye bye Time Warner. | |
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Everything will go up. Remember back in the old days when candies were a few cents and stuff? Damn inflations. :P
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Wait until the whining starts!
We are in a recession and a move to raise prices will cause many customers to drop or cancel services and then the whining will start. First the cable industries revenue will drop and then the companies will raise prices again to raise revenue causing more customers to reduce or cancel services. I hope the CATV industry wakes up and figures out that they have reached a tipping point where increasing prices will reduce revenues.