  Z80APremium
join:2009-11-23 | So what... Call us when it goes retail for less than a zillion $$$ per month. | |
|
 | | | Re: So what... and it will come with a 60GB BCE labeling cap | |
|
|  mromeroPremium
join:2000-12-07
Los Angeles | "connected to the Los Angeles headend "
So does that mean DOCSIS 3 is coming to southern cal? | |
|
| |  56403739Less than 5 months leftPremium
join:2006-03-08
Naples, FL
kudos:2 | Re: So what... I was just thinking the same thing. Until it can be ordered retail, it doesn't exist. | |
|
| | | | said by mromero:"connected to the Los Angeles headend " So does that mean DOCSIS 3 is coming to southern cal? only to the sony building so they can really up the DOS attacks on torrent sites | |
|
| |  en102Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | So that's why my speeds have been so crappy lately.
I'd expect it to only be where FiOS is deployed | |
|
|  OmegaDisplaced OhioanPremium
join:2002-07-30
Cheyenne, WY | Comes with a 25GB cap and $5/GB overage charges.
--
Whats smells like blue? | |
|
| |  FBGuyyippee ki yayPremium
join:2005-03-19
 ·Comcast
 ·T-Mobile US
 ·AT&T U-Verse
| Re: So what... said by Omega:Comes with a 25GB cap and $5/MB overage charges. fixed it.
--
sbcglobal.net speedtest result 11/11/09 - 5256kbps | |
|
| | | A zillion, thats all!! I thought the monthly fee would be a bazillion! | |
|
|  dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
kudos:4 | said by Z80A:Call us when it goes retail for less than a zillion $$$ per month. and in non fios areas
--
The shortest distance between 2 points adds 1.5 stars to T. want $25? solve »coord.info/GC20A37 for me | |
|
| Reviews:
 ·SureWest Internet
·AT&T Yahoo
·Comcast
| said by Z80A:Call us when it goes retail for less than a zillion $$$ per month. FIOS or fiber internet is 100mbit,1gb and 10gb
so far fiber only use the lowest of its potential
cable is a joke. still trying to stipulate faster alternative
pitiful coaxial suppose to be used for cable television only
50/5
100/10
with a caps of 30 to 100gb
what utter failure on their part to deliver fast unlimited connection for all of us.
we the customer need to vote with our pocket money where it count the most not buy into their lies or hypes. | |
|
 Frydays
join:2005-10-21
South Padre Island, TX | Time Warner Cable Demonstates 290 Mbps Cable we need that speed down here at spi but only if the price is less then $50 bux a month then it will be cool | |
|
| | yea They should test that speed in actual cities where more then one user is active....290 will become 20. I bet this will cost about $500 per month. | |
|
| iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | Re: yea 290/90 for $500 would make an awesome business class connection. | |
|
| | | | Re: yea hell yah it would  | |
|
| |  DragasoniWe're All Mad HerePremium
join:2001-12-14
Palm Bay, FL
·Earthlink Cable ..
| I agree, my old company was paying thousands for their DS3 which only gave us 45/45 Mbps. 290/90 Mbps for even $1,000 a month would be a sweet deal.
-Dragasoni-
--
»www.dragasoni.com | |
|
| | Reviews:
·SureWest Internet
·AT&T Yahoo
·Comcast
| said by iansltx:290/90 for $500 would make an awesome business class connection. its call marketing
the best u will get from time warner is 100/5 for
a measly 99.99 a month lol
with limited usage of 100gb
woohooo
i am loving 100mbit with caps so i can't use much! | |
|
| | | iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | Re: yea TWC has backed off of caps since they got their fingers burned awhile back.
Also, their current tier is UNLIMITED 50/5 for $100 per month but it sounds like they may change this in the face of fiber sooner or later. | |
|
| | Let's be realistic... For THAT speed I think $50.00 is waaaaaaaayyyyy too low. Now $99.00 per month... I could get behind that one. | |
|
|  Killa200Premium
join:2005-12-02
Southeast TN | Re: Let's be realistic... I could understand $99.00 resi (something like 250 / 25) and 500.00 business (275 - 290 / 75 - 90) with traffic prioritization between the two to settle up priority on who gets what speeds during congestion. To me, that is fair. | |
|
| | Reviews:
·AT&T U-Verse
| Re: Let's be realistic... AFAIK, the twc headend is in Culver City,CA, right above a hill i live near. It has a big radio tower and some satellites, and a small building where the head end equipment is stored. TWC cable still sucks though, customer service and pricing is not that good. | |
|
| | |  antdudeA Ninja AntPremium,VIP
join:2001-03-25
kudos:2
·RoadRunner Cable
| Re: Let's be realistic... said by billydunwood:AFAIK, the twc headend is in Culver City,CA, right above a hill i live near. It has a big radio tower and some satellites, and a small building where the head end equipment is stored. TWC cable still sucks though, customer service and pricing is not that good. I'm work in Culver City. Where exactly is this? At home's location, the local TWC office has a giant dish (seen it during Adelphia days too). | |
|
| | | | | | Re: Let's be realistic... Off of Duquesne Ave there is the Culver City Park. Up the park is Bill Botts Field(baseball fields) and there is a red and white radio tower. That's where it is. | |
|
| | | | | antdudeA Ninja AntPremium,VIP
join:2001-03-25
kudos:2 Reviews:
·RoadRunner Cable
| Re: Let's be realistic... said by billydunwood:Off of Duquesne Ave there is the Culver City Park. Up the park is Bill Botts Field(baseball fields) and there is a red and white radio tower. That's where it is. OK, I think I see it on Google Maps' aerial view. Thanks! | |
|
| | | | | | | | Re: Let's be realistic... np. You can't access fully to the tower, but if you go to the baseball fields, you can get a close enough look. yet again google always works  | |
|
| | | | | | If they are saying 22 miles away, then this cannot be from the culver city/baldwin hills CMTS. Culver City is not that far from Downtown LA. 22 miles is more like the Hacienda Heights/City of Industy headend that must have been used? | |
|
| | | | | antdudeA Ninja AntPremium,VIP
join:2001-03-25
kudos:2 Reviews:
·RoadRunner Cable
| Re: Let's be realistic... said by wstcvnaca:If they are saying 22 miles away, then this cannot be from the culver city/baldwin hills CMTS. Culver City is not that far from Downtown LA. 22 miles is more like the Hacienda Heights/City of Industy headend that must have been used? Reread what I said. Work vs. home locations. | |
|
| | | | | | | | Re: Let's be realistic... Antdude, you totally read my post wrong! I am talking about what the cable co. has said here: "Time Warner Cable is demonstrating 290 Mbps downstream and 90 Mbps upstream cable broadband at The Cable Show in Los Angeles. The demo uses an Arris CMTS and cable modems from both Arris and Motorola -- connected to the Los Angeles headend -- using 8 x 4 channel bonding. "This is the first time these speeds have been shown outside of labs," says a TWC spokesman of the demo. Time Warner Cable says they were responding to recent a recent Alcatel Lucent announcement of 300 Mbps DSL -- which may or may not ever actually make it out into the real world. "What they’ve got is something in the lab that goes 10 feet, and what we’re showing is live from our headend 22 miles away," says the company"
My point is: from downtown LA to culver city headend is only like 9 miles. They are saying 22 miles, so they either are referring to City of Industry or some other CMTS in their demonstration. | |
|
| | | | | | | wait, are you saying that that place I was talking about in culver city is the headend? I was only 90% sure. | |
|
| | | | | | | | Re: Let's be realistic... Not that small bldg on the google map, but the location that is next to the 405 frwy, same location as the baldwin hills cable store. | |
|
| | | | | | | | | Re: Let's be realistic... What is that small building and big radio tower? When I looked at the ownership of the tower, it said it was owned by Time Warner Cable. It looks like a mini headend | |
|
| Reviews:
·TELUS
·Shaw
| said by tdouglas22:For THAT speed I think $50.00 is waaaaaaaayyyyy too low. Now $99.00 per month... I could get behind that one. I pay $99/month for a 25/2 line. No way they would offer 290/90 for $100/month. $150/month would be a good deal for it though. Right now a 100/5 line here is $150. | |
|
| | iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | Re: Let's be realistic... Poor, poor Canadian...Suddenlink has 107/5 in some places for $120. Comcast has 22/5 for $80, tops. | |
|
| | Reviews:
·SureWest Internet
·AT&T Yahoo
·Comcast
| said by rustydusty:said by tdouglas22:For THAT speed I think $50.00 is waaaaaaaayyyyy too low. Now $99.00 per month... I could get behind that one. I pay $99/month for a 25/2 line. No way they would offer 290/90 for $100/month. $150/month would be a good deal for it though. Right now a 100/5 line here is $150. you canadian are rich compared to us american. you can pay any price. even 1000 a month is nothing. a pocket change.
:P__p | |
|
| | | Reviews:
·TELUS
·Shaw
| Re: Let's be realistic... said by jadebangle:said by rustydusty:said by tdouglas22:For THAT speed I think $50.00 is waaaaaaaayyyyy too low. Now $99.00 per month... I could get behind that one. I pay $99/month for a 25/2 line. No way they would offer 290/90 for $100/month. $150/month would be a good deal for it though. Right now a 100/5 line here is $150. you canadian are rich compared to us american. you can pay any price. even 1000 a month is nothing. a pocket change. :P__p Unfortunately money doesn't grow on trees up here either. I really need the 2Mb upload, so I don't have a choice. I complain to Shaw atleast once a month about their ridiculous price. | |
|
| | 290Mbps... ...between how many users?? | |
|
| | | Re: 290Mbps... about 1.04827586 LOL :\
D3@8 channels, 38*8 = 304Mb
This is absurd.... | |
|
| |  cdruGo ColtsPremium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
kudos:5
·Frontier FiOS
| Re: 290Mbps... said by kevin_pink:about 1.04827586 LOL :\ D3@8 channels, 38*8 = 304Mb This is absurd.... It's along the same lines as a BPON or GPON FTTH operator saying they can achieve some obscene speed if they dedicate all their bandwidth on a node to a single customer.
Maybe when they can deliver a fraction of that that speed to more then a couple customers consistently they can have something to talk about. | |
|
|
duranr
join:2006-10-14
Leonia, NJ | Color me skeptical Customers such as myself, won't be seeing these speeds, and if it someday does become an optional tier, it will likely be 10-15 years from now, and will cost well over $200/month. And the other ISP's will likely have something comparable or better for much cheaper. | |
|
1 edit | That's great... Meanwhile, they can't even break 290Kbps in my area.
The over provisioning and line noise is getting so bad here it's starting to affect digital channels now. | |
|
| | | Re: That's great... said by SmD Frylock:Meanwhile, they can't even break 290Kbps in my area. The over provisioning and line noise is getting so bad here it's starting to affect digital channels now. Yeah I know. Back at home I get 2/.5 mbits from Time Warner. Right now I'm in Japan getting 6/.5mbit *internationally* on a WiMAX connection. When wireless flat out beats wired, you know something is wrong.
In fact TWC hasn't deployed DOCSIS 3.0 to anyone outside of New York. It's ridiculous how utterly sociopathic they are. Without any competition they'll be demonstrating multigigabit over coax in 10 years while still riding along on DOCSIS 1 throughout their entire footprint. | |
|
| | Reviews:
·SureWest Internet
·AT&T Yahoo
·Comcast
| Re: That's great... said by sonicmerlin:said by SmD Frylock:Meanwhile, they can't even break 290Kbps in my area. The over provisioning and line noise is getting so bad here it's starting to affect digital channels now. Yeah I know. Back at home I get 2/.5 mbits from Time Warner. Right now I'm in Japan getting 6/.5mbit *internationally* on a WiMAX connection. When wireless flat out beats wired, you know something is wrong. In fact TWC hasn't deployed DOCSIS 3.0 to anyone outside of New York. It's ridiculous how utterly sociopathic they are. Without any competition they'll be demonstrating multigigabit over coax in 10 years while still riding along on DOCSIS 1 throughout their entire footprint. what do you call someone who don't offer you what is advertised? | |
|
| | 22 miles of coax? Cool "What they’ve got is something in the lab that goes 10 feet, and what we’re showing is live from our headend 22 miles away,"
So they're using 22 miles of coax? Or are they doing the same thing as DSL and going 21.5 miles on fiber and the rest on copper? | |
|
| | | Re: 22 miles of coax? Cool It's an HFC network. Fiber nodes are out in neighborhoods that backhaul the coax signals over fiber to the headend. It's how HFC has worked for almost 20 years. | |
|
| | | | Re: 22 miles of coax? Cool I know. It's the same way remote DSL networks have worked for a long time as well.
I was taking a shot at his incorrect maligning of DSL. | |
|
homers0
join:2002-02-05
Santa Clarita, CA | I wonder if this is cause of LA problems Many RR users in the Los Angeles area have been having problems for the past couple of months. And the past week, pings have gone to hell. I wonder if there is any relation? | |
|
| antdudeA Ninja AntPremium,VIP
join:2001-03-25
kudos:2 Reviews:
·RoadRunner Cable
| Re: I wonder if this is cause of LA problems said by homers0:Many RR users in the Los Angeles area have been having problems for the past couple of months. And the past week, pings have gone to hell. I wonder if there is any relation? More than a couple months for me!  | |
|
 AnClarPremium
join:2003-07-31
Belton, TX | Yeah Right! I basically agree with most of what's been said in this thread so far. I can't even get an answer about when TWC intends to roll out DOCSIS 3 in my area (central Texas). Meanwhile Comcast has already deployed DOCSIS 3 to 90% of their users. Not that Comcast is any great shakes either, but TWC lags so far behind the pack (except in markets where they have competition) that pronouncements like these just make me laugh. As others have said....call me back when they actually deploy it to everyone...at a reasonable price. Ask 'em when multi-room DVRs are coming??? it's all BS, and since TWC is the only game in town where I am...I'm stuck with them. Oh yeah...one of the techs I spoke with trumpeted the fact that they have wi-fi available in my area and most other areas don't yet have it.....thrilling...they offer an overpriced, useless (to me) service that I don't want or need, and try to show me that they really DO care about small markets like mine....what a load of horse manure!
--
When in danger or in doubt run in circles, scream and shout! | |
|
1 edit | its only for the Hollywood execs guys you peasants can pay for 5 megabit for the rest of humanities existence
they will use this to dos anyone that wants some....
oh and yacht builders and anyone with a net worth over 5 billion
rest of you can STFU like a good lil puppet | |
|
| iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
·Verizon Online DSL
·Comcast
| Re: its only for the Hollywood execs guys Uhh, if you're talking about MediaDefender they have several GIGABITS at their disposal. According to HE, their IP space is part of Revelation Networks:
»bgp.he.net/AS26821
Torrent sites tend to be on 100 Mbps or gigabit anyway, decentralized, etc. so a 90 Mbps DOS DEFINITELY wouldn't take 'em down.
Also, TWC offers 15/2 here, for $50 per month. Not rip-roaring fast but the price is right and the speeds are decent. Definitely not 5 Mbps  | |
|
Reviews:
·Optimum Online
·Verizon FiOS
| fix your CURRENT needs! a SYMMETRIC 50/50 megabits is what's needed NOW, not next near, next decade!! even if they've got channel bonding working in the OUTSIDE PLANT, tell me what last mile coax are they using? and if that's any different than the real last mile, you're screwed.. because it simply WON'T WORK MORONS!
Next, start charging prices out of the stratosphere for a 50/50 megabit plan or go home, these headlines get as tiresome as some new cooked up scheme to make DSL sound like fiber.. | |
|
|
See 8 replies to this post |
|
| | business connection. I would pay 500 dollars a month for a 290mbps connection for business connection. | |
|
 camaro92Question everythingPremium
join:2008-04-05
Westfield, MA
·Comcast
| How about Call me a pessimist but instead of basically going back and forth between these company's bragging about how big there dick is maybe we worry about wiring every single person in our country first with a measly 5/5 connection,then we can talk about crazy speeds. | |
|
| iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
·Verizon Online DSL
·Comcast
| Re: How about Easy: it's cheaper to upgrade ten households to 8x4 D3 than it is to serve one with new coax/fiber. So only the visionary providers (NOT AT&T/Verizon...these days/Frontier/Windstream/etc.) are doing that outside of greenfield developments, which aren't going up like they used to.
This is from someone whose parents are limited to 1.5/384 DSL (at least it's reliable!) and who has one choice for more than 5 Mbps down and 700 kbps up at his apartment right next to school (10 Gbps pipe, 1 Gbps between buildings, 100 Mbps Ethernet to most PCs, gigabit to a few): Comcast. | |
|
| | Overkill Never mind a residential line, 290 Mbps would be overkill for almost all small businesses and a lot of medium sized businesses. I work for a small ISP (2500 customers) and the most we usually peak up to at night is 100-110 Mbps down. We offer speeds ranging from 256kbps to 7Mbps but we don't come close to hitting our max bandwidth (OC3). We're moving our min speeds to 756 and adding another 100 Megs, but even with that we won't be close to 290. | |
|
| | | Re: Overkill I beg to differ - with 50 mbit or higher internet I can have people work from home on a VPN and get out of my office. | |
|
| | fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
join:2005-05-20
kudos:3
1 edit | Re: Overkill people do that now on FAR less.. you don't need 50mb to VPN. My ex roommate has my Sprint connect card and VPNs into his job at Wells Fargo every day... care to tell me what the speeds of a Sprint connect card is?
While it's not THE best, you don't need 50mb to VPN from home. If you are implying that your business is large enough with that many employees that need to VPN in, and that gets employees out of an office which in turn would save you BIG $$, then I think businesses now can justify that expense in buying a much better line than they have now. YES, it's going to cost a LOT of money, but the amount you save by setting the employee outside the office would MORE than make up for it.
Many cable/phone operators will give you a fiber link, ethernet, or other connection to your office with more bandwidth than what really is a residential class service into your building. Sure, it may cost you upwards to $1,000 a month.. but if you're saving $5,000 a month, it's worth it. (greed works both ways)
Those speeds will ultimately get here, and it won't take 10 years either. The fact is they are coming.. | |
|
| iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
·Verizon Online DSL
·Comcast
| It's a numbers game at this point, but if you've got the mojo then why not use it?
Also, have you had the luxury of using a 100 Mbps symmetric connection? I have access to such a connection on-campus (yay Colorado School of Mines) and it makes things SO much more convenient than my 12/2 cable at home (and yes, I DEFINITELY find ways of using that 12/2...I had 22/5 but needed to cut back on spending a bit).
The other plus with a 290 Mbps connection is that its utilization will be a few percent at most for everyone except large enterprises (who will have fiber anyway) and ISPs. So TWC can oversell the same 290 Mbps many times before running into trouble. As capacity increases, overselling capability increases superlinearly...or something like that. | |
|
| | This was a demo people This was a demonstration at a trade show. They are simply showing it is possible to get these speeds over the existing plant. | |
|
 cpuwizkidPremium
join:2007-04-17
Long Beach, CA | no wonder... ...my time warner cable internet at home and my mom's time warner cable internet at her house has been going SO SLLLLOOOOWWWWWWW.... i feel like i should be back on ISDN or something
i wish i had FiOS at home... too bad i'm in an AT&T area | |
|
| | no no money to pay for it sell it to the top 10% the rest have no money good luck with that one speed speed speed no one can afford it well almost no one but can you profit from them | |
|
| | Lock up time TWC just use it to lock up more file sharing pirates of all stripes. Good. Nail those non-creatives ripping off the TWC customers who pay thru the snoz for half ass speeds and
reliability.
I'll wait for DOCSIS 5.0 By then d/ls will be as common as
basic radio or tv. | |
|
| Reviews:
·SureWest Internet
·AT&T Yahoo
·Comcast
| Re: Lock up time said by sludgehound:TWC just use it to lock up more file sharing pirates of all stripes. Good. Nail those non-creatives ripping off the TWC customers who pay thru the snoz for half ass speeds and reliability. I'll wait for DOCSIS 5.0 By then d/ls will be as common as basic radio or tv. go with their 25.00 lower tier or don't use them at all since they are pretty useful. dont pay throuigh the roof for crappy speed from cable company their never going provide u wat u want.
many teenager write with bad spelling and grammar so i imitate for fun O.o  | |
|
| | | |  Re: Lock up time
| |
|
|
|
