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@ford.com | Forget Me Not Don't forget that Robin Masters will also be getting symmetrical fiber too. | |
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tomkb
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Avon, OH
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wmcbrine
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Laurel, MD | Re: Forget Me Not Robin Masters = Higgins
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'Boarrrd
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Don't forget that Robin Masters will also be getting symmetrical fiber too.
Ahh, but does Robin Masters really exist, or is he a creation of Higgins? The world may never know  The last episode left us hanging.... | |
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dnoyeB
Ferrous Phallus
join:2000-10-09
Southfield, MI | ROFL Too funny. | |
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tmc8080
join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY | fiber to the $$ bank $$... Well if Verizon isn't above putting a premium on it's FTTH pricing plans, why should TWC?
On the other hand, they both screw the consumer in terms of real value/true competition.. they both could do much, much, much (infinity X) better.. | |
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Kyle
join:2003-10-15
Toledo, OH | Re: fiber to the $$ bank $$... very true. But he should at least give the two credit for deploying FTTH. You don't see AT$T doing much of it or even Qwest. WOW! and Bright House are far from FTTH. | |
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| JPL
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| said by tmc8080  :Well if Verizon isn't above putting a premium on it's FTTH pricing plans, why should TWC? Huh? FiOS is FTTP for EVERYONE, not just for people in specific markets. | |
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Kyle
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Toledo, OH | Re: fiber to the $$ bank $$... it maybe in select markets as VZ has been talking about doing FTTN in select areas. Why create 2 brand names? just create 1 and make them use to different technologies. | |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
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| said by JPL :said by tmc8080 :Well if Verizon isn't above putting a premium on it's FTTH pricing plans, why should TWC? Huh? FiOS is FTTP for EVERYONE, not just for people in specific markets. Wheres my fios then if its for everyone?
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| Re: fiber to the $$ bank $$... said by dvd536 :said by JPL :said by tmc8080 :Well if Verizon isn't above putting a premium on it's FTTH pricing plans, why should TWC? Huh? FiOS is FTTP for EVERYONE, not just for people in specific markets. Wheres my fios then if its for everyone? Very cute, but you're misrepresenting my point. NO system is available to everyone. But for areas where FiOS IS available, they don't have different types of delivery mechanisms. They don't reserve FTTH just for their uber-rich customers. I was countering the point that Verizon is like TWC in that they put a 'premium' on FTTH. They don't. Granted, they won't go into areas where it's not feasible for them to do so, but guess what? There are ares around here (and I live pretty darn close to Philly) where Comcast won't run their cable because it's not economically feasible for them to do so (neighborhoods where the houses are 'too' far apart - heck, on the street where my in-laws live, they had to PAY the cable company at the time to run the line up their street - not just to their house, but to actually just run the line up their street).
That to me is valid. If you don't think you can recoup your investment (cost) for setting someone up, then it makes sense not to hook them up. But what TWC is doing is dfferent. They're reserving their better technology for the uber-rich. Verizon does NOT do that. Everyone who can get fios gets FTTH. Period. | |
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CTEL GUY
join:2007-06-13
Monroe, LA | NICE... You can't beat a good early morning Magnum PI reference. My Thursday will now be that much better. Thanks! | |
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MysticGogeta
The Robot Devil
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League City, TX
clubs: | Re: NICE... HERE HERE! Watched Re-Runs of that show last night ironically
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Kyle
join:2003-10-15
Toledo, OH | One catch: You've got to be wealthy and live in Hawaii Well Karl is already bashing TWC this morning. At least they're deploying FTTH. Many other provides would still deploy HFC. | |
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Pittsburgh, PA | Re: Correction I'm wondering if one of their top execs has a house in this development ...... | |
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insomniac84
join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN
| Well there is going to be a point when all new developments have fiber to the home, while old developments will sit on old technology for a long while. And it makes perfect since to start off the installation of a new medium in an area where everyone will easily pay for your highest tier. You have to start somewhere. Anyone know the eventual price of this fiber service? | |
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benecewicz
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Parkville, MD | ... With that kind of speed, 100 Mbps, there's no reason Zeus and Apollo shouldn't be allowed to wirelessly leach off their connection. | |
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jadebangle
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Olathe, KS |  Re: ...i need faster speed too
I say 10/1, 20,2, and 30/3 would be a great start. | |
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| cheaper for Cable MSO's One thing for the cable companies it will be cheaper for them to run fiber to the home because they already have Fiber to the node in their HFC plant. Which is at street service level.
So for those of you who think ATT is running the latest and greatest tech, they are doing pretty much what the cable co's have been doing. Uverse is noce for competition, but it is a joke. They should have did what verizon has done. Fiber to the house. | |
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Kyle
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Toledo, OH
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| Re: cheaper for Cable MSO's they do in select areas. Monroe County MI was one of SBC's first trial areas. Carlton MI actually has FTTP but its limited to what U-Verse can do in many areas.
You're not required to by TV either or Telephone in MI. Just have to change over to the Fiber and be prepared not to use any ISP for Internet except Yahoo! | |
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join:2007-12-27
Columbus, OH
clubs: | Re: cheaper for Cable MSO's Yahoo! is not an ISP, they a simply a web portal, the correct term would of been AT&T as the ISP. Which even then isent fully correct it would be AT&T advanced Soulutions d/b/a AT&T Internet Services. | |
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Kyle
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Toledo, OH | Re: cheaper for Cable MSO's excuse me its ATT Yahoo! as the ISP. A co-brand deal. | |
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BF69
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Camden, TN | Great so now Higgins can reach his 40 GB cap in record time! About 55 minutes by my calculations | |
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Skeedatl
Ah, push it - push it real good
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join:2007-12-26
The Cloud | It makes sense Why stick to coax for new build outs? FTTH is obviously the best solution for high bandwidth end user deployment. TWC isn't dumb. They'll counter market against FiOS, but they know what the real truth is. Fiber is superior. | |
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Kyle
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Toledo, OH
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| Re: It makes sense They could have laid Copper all the way to the doors in that Development.
HI telcom doesnt have anything but DSL. It is around the same speeds but a little cheaper (depending on what the user wants) but TWC could easily match the pricing and speed. | |
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dslwanter
Broadband blackhole no more
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Lowellville, OH | That's it I'm hitting the mega millions tomorrow night. | |
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supertech315
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Perris, CA
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| The truth is ..... They will have a 90% penetration rate or pretty close to it . at the end of the day they are a business and need to get their money back . Deploying this on a poor neighborhood with 10-20% is profitable doesnt make much sense . If u were the owner of TW what would you do ???? | |
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Hanover, PA
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wifi4milez
In Need Of Garbage Pail Kids 1st Series
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| Re: Kinda pointless said by Da Man :How fat is the pipe coming into Hawaii? If Japan can't get 100Mbps overseas I pretty sure Hawaii won't. I don't think there is any content stored on Hawaii that needs 100Mbps unless Google is handing out HD camera's to record every time time a surfer screws up to upload to Youtube. You should have asked "how fat is the TWC pipe coming into Hawaii?". I say this because there is a HUGE amount of capacity coming into Hawaii, it all depends on how much TWC bought/owns. There are multiple undersea cables connecting the mainland and Hawaii, and Hawaii is actually a "jumping off" point to parts of Asia.
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In Need Of Garbage Pail Kids 1st Series
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New York, NY | NICE houses! Damn, those are some really nice houses. I searched their website high and low, but I couldnt find any mention of how much they cost. Any thoughts? | |
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Honolulu, HI | Re: NICE houses! Looks like prices start at around $10,000,000.
It should be noted that the development was named after the active volcano on the slopes of which it is located. | |
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In Need Of Garbage Pail Kids 1st Series
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| Re: NICE houses! said by delar :Looks like prices start at around $10,000,000. Where did you find that info? | |
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DaSneaky1D
one wall to block them all
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The Lou | How much bandwidth to the Mainland? I seriously doubt that they're going to give 100mbps access to subscribers when transit costs to the mainland are so friggin high.
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Konaguy
Live From Kailua-Kona, Hawaii
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Kailua Kona, HI
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| Re: How much bandwidth to the Mainland? said by DaSneaky1D :I seriously doubt that they're going to give 100mbps access to subscribers when transit costs to the mainland are so friggin high. This would've been a problem 8 years ago. But since then a lot of new bandwidth has come online.
»starbulletin.com/2000/10/19/news/story4.html | |
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pontiacg8
@comcast.net | Hmm.. Cherry pick much Time Warner?
..I wouldn't mind living on Hawaii though ..nice weather year long, winters here suck ass! | |
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LD 50
join:2000-08-28
Milford, NH
clubs: | They all get screwed This is being offered at a resort on the island of Hawaii; Higgins, TC, Rick and Magnum all lived on the island of Oahu. | |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
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Phoenix, AZ | Oh wait! I thought TWC had a nationwide fibre network | |
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Konaguy
Live From Kailua-Kona, Hawaii
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Kailua Kona, HI
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| Re: Oh wait! said by dvd536 :I thought TWC had a nationwide fibre network It used to be the case. But TW Telecom is no longer affiliated with Time Warner anymore.
»www.twtelecom.com/ | |
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ricep5
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Jacksonville, FL | What good is it? If the trans-pacific pipe used to trunk the data is restricted due to capacity?
It may sound sexy and cool to those on Kona ("I have fiber!") but they still can't download re-runs of Magnum any faster than the schmoe on Oahu with DSL. | |
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Konaguy
Live From Kailua-Kona, Hawaii
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| Re: What good is it? said by ricep5 :If the trans-pacific pipe used to trunk the data is restricted due to capacity? It may sound sexy and cool to those on Kona ("I have fiber!") but they still can't download re-runs of Magnum any faster than the schmoe on Oahu with DSL. That would've been a issue about 8 years ago. But there has
been a number of fiber-optic optic upgrades done since then.
»starbulletin.com/2000/10/19/news/story4.html | |
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| Re: What good is it? I guess the point I am making is that those new trans-pacific links are rationed, so regardless of what your link speed is 100 Mbps fiber or 4Mbps DSL, your access to anything mainland will be limited to what ever the ISP pays for.
If all one will access is a web server in the resort lobby in Kona, then you definitely have something. | |
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Konaguy
Live From Kailua-Kona, Hawaii
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| Re: What good is it? said by ricep5 :I guess the point I am making is that those new trans-pacific links are rationed, so regardless of what your link speed is 100 Mbps fiber or 4Mbps DSL, your access to anything mainland will be limited to what ever the ISP pays for. If all one will access is a web server in the resort lobby in Kona, then you definitely have something. Well we'll have to see what happens. I have HawTel 11Mbps DSL.I get pretty good speeds. For example I can download music off of ITunes at 1Mbps. | |
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