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Time Warner Cable Expands 'Wideband' Upgrades
Brings 50 Mbps To Scattered North Carolina Communities
by Karl Bode Monday 07-Mar-2011 tags: coverage · business · bandwidth · cable · consumers
Following up on promises made last January, Time Warner Cable is accelerating DOCSIS 3.0 "Wideband" upgrades, after lagging in such deployments despite being the nation's second largest cable company. This week finds the company telling local news outlets they're launching the upgrades and speeds up to 50 Mbps in a number of North Carolina communities, including High Point, Greensboro, Winston-Salem, and Burlington. There's a thread in our forums that offers some additional detail, with users in Raleigh still waiting for the upgrade. Upgraded markets offer Turbo users 30 Mbps for an additional $10, a 50/5 Mbps tier for $100, and a new $180-$190 Signature Home bundle that includes 50 Mbps service, unlimited VoIP, and the company's top shelf HD TV bundle. The announcement comes, not coincidentally, as Time Warner Cable lobbies the state to pass a law making community fiber deployments more difficult.

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kdoggmdf
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MidOhio Also Launching Beginning in April

Time Warner Cable is getting ready to launch the next generation of Internet service to customers across the Midwest Region. Using DOCSIS 3 equipment and our advanced fiber network we will be able to deliver an incredible online experience. There will be two new levels of service available:
Time Warner Cable Wideband Internet
TWC Wideband Internet is the ultimate high speed experience. Customers can upload photos while downloading files and streaming a TV show – all without missing a beat.
• 50 Mbps down X 5 Mbps up
• Download speeds 7X faster than Road Runner Standard
• Built in wireless service on 802.11 n router
• 30 mailboxes and up to 10 Gb of email storage
• $99.95 per month, savings available in select bundles
• Part of Signature Home package where available
Road Runner Broadband Extreme
Road Runner Extreme offers incredible speed at a price that makes it a great deal. The perfect next step for Turbo subscribers that want more.
• 30 Mbps down X 5 Mbps up
• 30 mailboxes with 10 Gb of email storage
• $19.95 on top of Road Runner Standard, or $10.00 to upgrade from Turbo
• Add Wireless for just $4.99 more per month
Business Class is working hand-in-hand with the residential side of the business to simultaneously launch Business Class Wideband.
Business Class Wideband
Business Class customers will have the choice of two new premium speed tiers:
• Up to 35 megabits per second (Mbps) downstream / 5 Mbps upstream
• Up to 50 Mbps downstream / 5 Mbps upstream
• 10 E-Mail boxes standard
Launch Timing:
These new high speed services will be rolled out by hubs beginning in the 2nd quarter. Similar to our roll out of Digital Phone we will launch with a group of hubs and add to our service area over time. Much more information about when and where will be coming soon. Starting March 9 each Division Website will have additional information as well as a sign up to get on the waiting list for when it is available in a specific area.
sonicmerlin

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Cleveland, OH
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Re: MidOhio Also Launching Beginning in April

What about Northeast Ohio? Also will they be upgrading the standard tiers? I've had the same speed for almost a decade... it's getting stale.

kdoggmdf
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Westerville, OH

Re: [DVR] whole house dvr

It depends on the area in the twc neo service area. It will be released by hub in Columbus but I don't know about anywhere else.

MEohME

@wideopenwest.com

Re: [DVR] whole house dvr

NEO/WPA does not do service upgrades at the same time as MidOhio. NEO/WPA was working on this over a year ago and never did anything with it As many options that are available in the TWC service area in the NEO WPA area they should just give up all together. ATT out preforms TWC's speeds, COX BLOWS TWC away with their D3 upgrades and WOW is going to be launching D3 this year as well.

And MUCH of MidOhio is now being moved to NEO. NEO reachs all the way to the Toledo/Port Clinton area of Ohio. They pulled that from MidOhio and moved it when they started selling off Adelphia markets.

neuronbob
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Re: MidOhio Also Launching Beginning in April

I'm waiting for this too. Even though I'm in the Cleveland 'burbs, I STILL can't get DSL and AT&T has pretty much abandoned upgrades in my neighborhood. Fiber? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

I've had TWC exclusively for brandband service for ten years.
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sonicmerlin

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Re: MidOhio Also Launching Beginning in April

I remember when we used to have Cablevision. Then they sold their area here to Time Warner, and a few years later I looked up Cablevision's website and saw all their customers had a "basic" tier of 15/2 and a higher tier of 30/5. They were pretty much the only company to upgrade to DOCSIS 2.0. Sigh...
though

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Lincoln, NE

Lincoln, Nebraska -- when????????

come onnnnnnnn time warner!

bzornes

join:2005-05-26
Bethel, OH

Re: MidOhio Also Launching Beginning in April

That's what I read last year, literally around the exact same time...

MEohME

@wideopenwest.com

Re: MidOhio Also Launching Beginning in April

actually yah it was one. LoL. It was suppose to be available last year; but never came TWC needs to give up.

Brandonrox

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fiberguy
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Re: MidOhio Also Launching Beginning in April

said by Brandonrox :

I just want Cincinnati bell Fioptics... screw cable

Yea.. CB is really pushing a great product huh?

On the "comparison page" they tout their 30mb fioptics against cable's 8mb connection. (Maybe someone should tell the phone company that cable has gotten faster than 8mb).. But, on just about EVERY package and bundle they're pushing on their own services page(s) they're pushing only 10mb. REAL ground breaking for a fiber network.. **fail**

This is cincybell at its finest.. They sucked ass at DSL for so long and now they have a bit of fiber rolling out and they're only trying to push it just a little bit beyond cable.. If the customer can't see this, then they deserve what they get.

bzornes

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Bethel, OH

Re: MidOhio Also Launching Beginning in April

The highest speed Time Warner offers through bundles by default is 7 Mb/s. You can't explain that!
fiberguy
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Re: MidOhio Also Launching Beginning in April

And I think you missed the point, entirely.

What good exactly is a fiber service when all you're going to do is take what is essentially a canal for data and put a garden-hose sized amount of water through it? ... and then brag that it's wonderful?

TWC in Cincy may be running a little slower than the rest of their systems, but TWC certainly offers faster than 7mb internet service. So again, what's left over? ... Bell is doing EXACTLY what everyone here bitches that cable does all the time.. ie: tilting the scale slightly in the favor.

Also, it's clear that CBell isn't ready for prime time, either. You can ALWAYS tell this when they won't put their information out there for everyone to see UNLESS you can produce an address that's in their fiber service area. There is NOTHING more annoying that having to dig to find data.

qbunnie

@ohio-state.edu
Where did you find this information? I don't see it anywhere other than this post, and it's not on TWC's website as of March 10th...

Matt3
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Triad

The article mentions the Triad and specifically mentions High Point will be first, followed by the surrounding areas. The Triad MSO serves all the big cities; Greensboro, Winston-Salem, Burlington, etc.

I find it irritating as hell that this is being deployed "slightly" ahead of AT&T's U-Verse deployment in the Triad.

MEohME

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Re: Triad

There is NO longer a TWC Triad area. It is now totally one service area for NC.
tmc8080

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cheated upstream?

50/5? what happened to 50/15 or 50/20?

dvd536
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Re: cheated upstream?

said by tmc8080:

50/5? what happened to 50/15 or 50/20?

its cable. you should be used to crap upload offerings!
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about the upgrade

just a update my rep called back and he said that web advertising starts on March 9 and he said he was going to give me a call back on the 11th of this week to tell me what pricing for the mid ohio 50x5 package will be.

Koil
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Hey!! What about South Carolina? Helllooooo ::WAVES HANDS::

Can anyone see me?? Hello?? Is this thing on??

Can we get a little love down here in the low country, please?!?

Damnit...
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Re: Hey!! What about South Carolina? Helllooooo ::WAVES HANDS::

said by Koil:

Can anyone see me?? Hello?? Is this thing on??

Can we get a little love down here in the low country, please?!?

Damnit...

Lol - you will probably get as much love as we get here in central NC. Just be happy you get anything at all (at least they hope you don't notice the snub...)
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Old News

This is actually old news and contrary to Conspiracy Karl's insinuation "The announcement comes, not coincidentally, as Time Warner Cable lobbies the state to pass a law making community fiber deployments more difficult." this is not some part of a TWC sinister plan to dominate the world or sway the courts or politicians.
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Matt3
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Re: Old News

said by BHNtechXpert:

This is actually old news and contrary to Conspiracy Karl's insinuation "The announcement comes, not coincidentally, as Time Warner Cable lobbies the state to pass a law making community fiber deployments more difficult." this not some part of TWC's sinister plan to dominate the world or sway the courts or politicians.

Old news?

BHNtechXpert
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Re: Old News

said by Matt3:

said by BHNtechXpert:

This is actually old news and contrary to Conspiracy Karl's insinuation "The announcement comes, not coincidentally, as Time Warner Cable lobbies the state to pass a law making community fiber deployments more difficult." this not some part of TWC's sinister plan to dominate the world or sway the courts or politicians.

Old news?

Yes old news.
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Matt3
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Re: Old News

said by BHNtechXpert:

said by Matt3:

said by BHNtechXpert:

This is actually old news and contrary to Conspiracy Karl's insinuation "The announcement comes, not coincidentally, as Time Warner Cable lobbies the state to pass a law making community fiber deployments more difficult." this not some part of TWC's sinister plan to dominate the world or sway the courts or politicians.

Old news?

Yes old news.

Would you mind pointing out where Time Warner has released dates for the Triad region? I live here, know people who work there, follow this closely, and this is the first I've heard where (vague) dates were given.

BHNtechXpert
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Re: Old News

Geez guys don't you even read the swill he posts before you form an opinion or do you just blindly follow the H1 titles like a googlebot? Here is when Karl himself started discussing it and it was actually reported PRIOR to that. Apparently you don't follow the industry as much as you thought...I dunno...or maybe just don't read.

»Time Warner Cable Aims 50 Mbps At Raleigh
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MEohME

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Re: Old News

For once i actually agree with you. This WAS reported last year with a number of service areas that were suppose to get the D3 upgrades. Although they never came about in almost 99% of those cities.

BHNtechXpert
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Re: Old News

said by MEohME :

For once i actually agree with you. This WAS reported last year with a number of service areas that were suppose to get the D3 upgrades. Although they never came about in almost 99% of those cities.

Oh god the world is coming to end...we might have agreed on something
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Matt3
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said by BHNtechXpert:

Geez guys don't you even read the swill he posts before you form an opinion or do you just blindly follow the H1 titles like a googlebot? Here is when Karl himself started discussing it and it was actually reported PRIOR to that. Apparently you don't follow the industry as much as you thought...I dunno...or maybe just don't read.

»Time Warner Cable Aims 50 Mbps At Raleigh

Raleigh is not the Triad. They are an hour and a half apart. You're confusing the Triangle with the Triad. Triangle = Raleigh, Durham, Chapel-Hill; the Triad is Greensboro, High Point, Burlington.

Oops.

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Research_Triangle

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piedmont_Triad

BHNtechXpert
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Re: Old News

said by Matt3:

said by BHNtechXpert:

Geez guys don't you even read the swill he posts before you form an opinion or do you just blindly follow the H1 titles like a googlebot? Here is when Karl himself started discussing it and it was actually reported PRIOR to that. Apparently you don't follow the industry as much as you thought...I dunno...or maybe just don't read.

»Time Warner Cable Aims 50 Mbps At Raleigh

Raleigh is not the Triad. They are an hour and a half apart. You're confusing the Triangle with the Triad. Triangle = Raleigh, Durham, Chapel-Hill; the Triad is Greensboro, High Point, Burlington.

Oops.

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Research_Triangle

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piedmont_Triad

You're playing word games here. The original announcement way way back when (pre Karl) referred to all of the NC service area. Whether or not your specific street, township or city was covered is irrelevant.
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BaldEagle

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Actually, the Triad is Winston-Salem, Greensboro, and High Point...

Matt3
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Re: Old News

said by BaldEagle:

Actually, the Triad is Winston-Salem, Greensboro, and High Point...

You're correct, I was think of the metro statistical areas which were separated in 2003.

Twaddle

@sbcglobal.net

lobby antics

Not knowing the details of North Carolina and its relationship with Time Warner I can't be too forceful but I do find the idea of a company trying to control the will of the people through legislation a bit irksome.
If I lived in a community that wanted to set up a FTTH or FTTN and some private company was trying to stop my community I'd be inclined to be verbally abusive to said company and to my respective political (shill?) and say "Pound sand".

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jkeelsnc

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Greensboro, NC

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Hmmm, interesting

Well, I'd say its about time. Especially on the upstream. My connection chokes sometimes because TWC only offers 512K up here in GSO. Especially, if I am uploading a file (for school not illegal videos and program) it chokes the connecetion on both sides so that its very slow. Anyway, nice to hear about this change or at least the availability of it.

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Re: Hmmm, interesting

said by jkeelsnc:

As for you republicon spin meisters and your fear tactic posts below. I give you credit for your intelligence at spinning and raising fear. But thats all it is. The usual republicon moves to squeeze a penny out of someone else and make a real fast buck while you roll around the golf course drunk like a moron while your employees bust their behinds for 12-16 hours a day so you can enjoy the privilege.

This isn't a political discussion and has nothing to do with politics whatsoever but nice try at deflecting attention away from the real issue.

And then deleting that part in his original post no less. Aren't quotes a good thing
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cbemerine

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Los Angeles, CA
...Especially on the upstream. My connection chokes sometimes because TWC only offers 512K up here in GSO...

Its probably worse than you realize. If you do not use DD-WRT, OpenWRT or tomato firmware on a supported firewall/router in your home, you simply do NOT have the bandwidth monitoring ability to see how bad it really is.

I pay $60.99 for "up to" 16Mb/2Mb. I rarely see above 300Kbps upstream. In fact the only time I remember seeing the upstream going above 300Kbps is during the speed test where I indeed see 2Mb. The second that Speed Test finishes, my DD-WRT bandwidth logging shows TWC throttling back my bandwidth.

Every time streaming content skips, I check my DD-WRT bandwidth log and its always below 30Kbps...often under 10Kbps, sadly often throttled back to 0Kbps. Let me repeat that, EVERY time streaming content is interrupted my upstream bandwidth is throttled to less than 50Kbps, usually less than 30Kbps. It makes you HATE your provider, more importantly it makes you desperate enough to want decent service. Which all of us should have!

100% of Cable providers throttle Residential Internet service, usually to below the FCC definition for broadband of 768Kbps! Fraud or just customer no service?

twitpic.com/47pmum' Tonight I was watching a show on Hulu, when the streaming content skipped and sputtered here is what I saw via DD-WRT. The only other thing I was doing with my quad core Linux PC with 4 GB of RAM was checking Google gmail...so yea I get throttled bad, real bad.

In my area AT&T provides an upstream guarantee stating users will get 80% of their promised bandwidth 99% of the time. Not thrilled with AT&T, but the bandwidth guarantee is enticing, of course I would have to get it in writing and check over their contract before signing, striking out sections that are fishy and making sure my DD-WRT enabled firewall/router is the determining source of that 80% guarantee...barring a written guarantee, they are no better than anyone else. Of course considering how severely I am being throttled back and how much cheaper DSL Extreme is over Cable, perhaps its worth it.

Based on my distance, they promise 1.5Mb/384Kbps which is over 300% better than my throttled TWC Cable Internet.

Even with a $200 up front "wire check" fee, I would recover my costs in less than 6 months which is probably worth it.

Ultimately synchronous FTTH is where I want to be and what I want to have, however I will probably have to move to one of the almost 30 synchronous FTTH communities currently in existence. Examples: Wilson, NC via Greenlight($34.95: 10Mb/10Mb); Chattanooga, TN via EPB($57.99: 30Mb/30Mb); Layfayette, LA via LUS Fiber($28.95: 10Mb/10Mb); Over 16 communities in Utah via Utopia($37.50-$70: 10Mb/10Mb); Salisbury, NC via Fibrant($45.00: 15Mb/15Mb); Tradition, East Biloxi, MS via PrimeTime($45.95: 7Mb/7Mb)...heck even RockFire at the Lake, Topeka, KS via PrimeTime($29.99: 1.5Mb/1.5Mb).

Any and all of those above synchronous FTTH networks are way better than any other thanks to Fiber To The Home. They even blow away FIOS on both service and price go figure.

And don't forget that Google will announce the 5 winning communities of their Go Big with a Gig FTTH build outs this year, 2011! Who would not want to be on Google's backbone network, I know I would! Besides we know how the current oligopolies and monopolies will treat us, Google can NOT do worse than what Americans have experienced for the last 20 years!

That current incumbents should be taking seriously is the loss of TRUST their customer no service practices has fostered for the last 20 years. They should be very, very afraid. The fact that they still are pushing anything other than FTTH, considering the billions they have already received and considering the millions they spend weekly to lobby our elected officials is telling. And it does not reflect well on them at all. I can envision a day when they will not be able to pay you to take their service. That would be true in all of the above communities, think about it!

FIOS is 50/5, FIOS is NOT synchronous.

FTTH is the ONLY solution that is viable long term. Make your stand, run for office and help your community or move to a community that is providing synchronous FTTH today, you will have over 30 options by the end of 2011 and that is a very good thing!


eager

@chase.com

NEO Wideband

This link shows that NEO should be getting it also.

»www.timewarnercable.com/neowpa/l···ult.html

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