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Time Warner Cable Offers 75 Mbps in Dallas
'Ultimate 75' Costs $90 a Month
by Karl Bode 08:33AM Wednesday Jan 16 2013 Tipped by motorola870 See Profile
Users in our Time Warner Cable forums note that the cable operator has started offering 75 Mbps in portions of Texas. According to users the Ultimate 75 Mbps tier is being offered for $90 in the Dallas Fort Worth area. This comes on the heels of news that Time Warner Cable has started offering 100 Mbps connections in Kansas City, where they're competing with Google Fiber's symmetrical 1 Gbps service.

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Time Warner Cable has been less aggressive than other cable operators when it comes to pushing their top-shelf speeds skyward. Their upstream speeds in particular have been lagging, with this "top shelf" tier providing just 5 Mbps upstream.

While companies like Comcast have been offering speeds of 100 and even 300 Mbps, Time Warner Cable's current top speeds cap out at 50 Mbps in most upgraded markets. The company is previously on record noting that even 50 Mbps would be deployed "tactically" (read: in locations with competition).

"We do have a 75 Mbps tier in Dallas and a 100Mbps tier in Kansas City, both of which are part of our larger announcement on speed increases," Time Warner Cable's Alex Dudley tells me. "As far as those two tiers are concerned specifically (broader rollouts), we don’t have anything else to announce, though I think it is fair to say that we have been making an effort to increase speeds and will continue to do so in the future."

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spewak
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Google Fibers' next stop...

Google Fibers' next stop must be in Dallas. Thanks Time Warner for leaking it with this upgrade.
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iansltx

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Re: Google Fibers' next stop...

Nah, FiOS is already there. If I remember correctly, Google said something to the effect that they aren't going to go after markets that have FiOS already available.

tc1uscg

join:2005-03-09
Clinton Township, MI

Re: Google Fibers' next stop...

Good, they would be welcome in south east Michigan and the Detroit area where they can fight it out with AT&T/Comcast/WOW and others...
Joe12345678

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Des Plaines, IL

Re: Google Fibers' next stop...

they should do the Chicago area and offer CLTV HD.

AMDUSER
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Re: Google Fibers' next stop...

They are more then welcome to start building it out in Milwaukee... between At&t [slower IP-DSL \ VDSL] and Time Warner Cable... Google should have no problems competing with them.

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said by iansltx:

Nah, FiOS is already there. If I remember correctly, Google said something to the effect that they aren't going to go after markets that have FiOS already available.

FIOS is not in Dallas, Irving yes. But Dallas NO!

ilikeme
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Re: Google Fibers' next stop...

said by PamelaTS:

said by iansltx:

Nah, FiOS is already there. If I remember correctly, Google said something to the effect that they aren't going to go after markets that have FiOS already available.

FIOS is not in Dallas, Irving yes. But Dallas NO!

There are a few areas in Dallas that do have it. I personally prefer FIOS over cable anyways. I pay $55 for 50/25 FIOS in Denton and the alternative is crappy Charter cable.
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fieroloki

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I am in Dallas and have it. Just not all parts of Dallas have it.
innoman
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Re: Google Fibers' next stop...

What part of Dallas are you in?

I've been looking for a house and would love to have FiOS, but it seems that it's only in the suburbs. (I don't consider Far North Dallas as Dallas since you typically have to go through other cities to get there--i.e. Addison and Plano).

The sad think about these speed increases is that their adoption won't be that great because they aren't doing anything for upstream. (That, and price... $90 is a little steep for a 75/5 connection these days).
navalpatel

join:2003-07-28
Richardson, TX

Re: Google Fibers' next stop...

While not Dallas, it's available in Garland (or at least in many areas of Garland). I think that's the closest you'll get while still remaining in Verizon territory unless Richardson has it, but I think that's AT&T's area.

Edit: FiOS map with DSLR users available at »/gmaps/fios
innoman
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Re: Google Fibers' next stop...

I'm familiar with that map. It's in many of the suburbs, just not really in Dallas (as in central Dallas, I mean). It doesn't seem to be anywhere that I want to live.

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said by iansltx:

Nah, FiOS is already there. If I remember correctly, Google said something to the effect that they aren't going to go after markets that have FiOS already available.

What about cities that have FiOS, but not in specific neighborhoods like mine?
iansltx

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Re: Google Fibers' next stop...

Probably not. Though Google Fiber is overbuilding SureWest in certain areas of Kansas City, they are doing it as part of an eventually citywide rollout. They wouldn't want to do that in something larger than KC...too much effort...so that pretty much precludes areas with a patchwork of telephone companies serving the same city.

banditws6
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I wish. I would take that in a freaking heartbeat.

But yeah, we do have FiOS here and that's probably driving most of the upgrades that Time Warner's Dallas plant sees. Still, FiOS doesn't really cover that much of Dallas, all things considered.
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mikedz4

join:2003-04-14
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bring it to the upper ohio valley where all we have is comcast and in non comcast area, jefferson county/blue devil cable.

nycdave
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75/5?

Where is the upstream part of the announcement? A 75/5 tier? Wow, makes FiOS look really slow - NOT......

Camelot One
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Re: 75/5?

said by nycdave:

Where is the upstream part of the announcement?

I was wondering the same thing. I would imagine you have it right at 5, since anything faster would be worthy of mentioning.
iansltx

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When you don't have upstream channel bonding across your footprint...or at the very least a 6.4 MHz upstream running at 64QAM...there's only so much you can do. Comcast has both of the above, hence their ability to pump out 20 Mbps up over cable. And their ability to get about $20 per month more from me than TWC does now, because I had 50/15 there (vs. 50/5 now).

motorola870

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Arlington, TX
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Re: 75/5?

said by iansltx:

When you don't have upstream channel bonding across your footprint...or at the very least a 6.4 MHz upstream running at 64QAM...there's only so much you can do. Comcast has both of the above, hence their ability to pump out 20 Mbps up over cable. And their ability to get about $20 per month more from me than TWC does now, because I had 50/15 there (vs. 50/5 now).

TWC in dallas is bonding on the upstream but it is 4 3.2MHz wide QAM64 channels which is equivalent to 2 6.4MHz wide QAM64 channels

I think TWC might be waiting to add more downstreams on the internet currently at 6 going to 8?

Also they are deploying HD DTA's in Dallas so maybe they are getting ready to rearrange the QAM frequencies to make room for the additional internet QAMs if they are indeed going to be added.

Right now the TWC 860MHz system that serves Dallas has:
24 SDV QAMs
8 VOD QAMs
6 internet QAMs

so they are going to have to rearrange things to fit in 2 more DOCSIS channels as there are two sets of SDV QAMs that are on both sides of the DOCSIS downstreams so right now the internet frequencies are from 783MHz to 813MHz with no room for DOCSIS carriers on 819MHz and 825MHz.

swintec
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No caps...

No competition here and we have 50 Mbit available to us.

Regardless, I would take 50 - 75 MBit over the 100+ Mbit competitors any day since TW has no caps.
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iansltx

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Re: No caps...

If a provider is offering 100M...and they aren't the cable company...chances are that they have no caps, either.

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Re: No caps...

said by iansltx:

If a provider is offering 100M...and they aren't the cable company...chances are that they have no caps, either.

Yes, when I said competitors I meant Comcast, Charter, etc. Shouldnt have used that term since they arent direct competitors.
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IowaCowboy
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One way many users have avoided caps on Comcast is by subscribing to a business grade service. I myself have Comcast residential grade Internet but I never come anywhere close to the 250 GB cap when they were enforcing it.
MURICA

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Re: No caps...

Good luck subscribing to a Comcast Business tier that is 75 Mbps for $90 a month.

Comcast Business is highway robbery. If you want uncapped 100 Mbps from Comcap you have to shell out $400+ a month.*

*I know they list it as $370 but after taxes and fees that will easily shoot up over four Benjamins.

motorola870

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Re: No caps...

said by MURICA:

Good luck subscribing to a Comcast Business tier that is 75 Mbps for $90 a month.

Comcast Business is highway robbery. If you want uncapped 100 Mbps from Comcap you have to shell out $400+ a month.*

*I know they list it as $370 but after taxes and fees that will easily shoot up over four Benjamins.

TWC offers 35/5 and 50/5 DOCSIS 3.0 business class in Dallas and it starts at $320 (35/5) to (50/5) $369
MURICA

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Re: No caps...

What's your point?

Because Time Warner's residential has no caps, business class is entirely unnecessary.

Time Warner's residential service is comparable to Comcast's business service.

30/5 Mbps on Time Warner is $70 a month.

pizz
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50-100mbps is fine by me, as long as they up the upstream to 10mbps

IowaCowboy
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DOCSIS 3.0 upgrade took forever in Maine

While I've been enjoying DOCSIS 3.0 since 2009 at my house in Western Mass on Comcast, Time Warner did not upgrade southern Maine (Biddeford) until 2012. And they would not issue a D3 modem unless I upgraded Grandma's Internet to the 30/5 tier (which is $10 more a month). I think Comcast does not even carry D2 modems on their trucks anymore and they use D3 modems for their lower tiers as D3 uses system resources more efficiently. The 30/5 Internet is good for when I go up there as I am used to the faster speeds as my connection at home is 50/10. I did install one of my TiVo boxes at her house to offset the cost on the TV in my room at her house as it is $1.75 per month for the cable card as opposed to $8 for a converter. I put the other TiVo in storage (both have lifetime subs) as I upgraded to the Comcast AnyRoom DVR.
brianiscool

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Rip off

I pay $99 a month with FIOS and get 155Mbps/down 65Mbs/up.

banditws6
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Promotional Rate

Don't forget that $90/mo. is a promotional rate. After 12 months you're going to get socked with a much higher monthly fee. After my promo rate expired, TW Dallas wanted $70/mo. for Turbo -- three levels below this new Ultimate 75. And until my promo did expire, it was like pulling teeth to get TW to tell me what the regular rate of the service was. Just a heads up.
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JigglyWiggly

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Re: Promotional Rate

Whenever I read about TWC, I feel thankful to have Comcast.
I have comcast xtreme 105, 105/20. Time warner doesn't know what upload speed is.

All their tiers have garbage upload speed, and they just seem to all around suck more than Comcast by a lot.
MURICA

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Re: Promotional Rate

Whenever I read about Comcast, I feel thankful to have TWC.

I will take my uncapped 30/5 Mbps over your capped 105/20 Mbps trash any day!

Try downloading the terabytes of data in a month that I download over my 30 Mbps residential Time Warner connection on your capped 105 Mbps Comcast connection and see what happens. I dare you!

5 Mbps might seem like a slow upload but I still manage to upload over 1.5 terabytes of data every month on Time Warner.

Try uploading that much on Comcast residential sometime and tell me how it works out for you.

I am no fan of Time Warner but saying that Comcast is somehow better than them is laughable.

With those bandwidth caps Comcast is selling a Ferrari that is constructed out of cardboard.

F100

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Durham, NC
In the NC market, TWC has taken all links to the standard pricing off of their website for residential. I've chatted with them twice over the last 2 months and they will only quote promotional prices. So it's hard to predict what you bill will be after the promotion or to compare internet with other providers. In NC, if you have a complaint with TWC, you have to go to the State Attorney General's office because they handle the franchise now and not the cities anymore.

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Re: Promotional Rate

said by F100:

In the NC market, TWC has taken all links to the standard pricing off of their website for residential. I've chatted with them twice over the last 2 months and they will only quote promotional prices. So it's hard to predict what you bill will be after the promotion or to compare internet with other providers. In NC, if you have a complaint with TWC, you have to go to the State Attorney General's office because they handle the franchise now and not the cities anymore.

I noticed that they're trying to bury "regular" pricing too. Someone posted that they not only have "first-year" pricing, but they also bring you up to "regular" price in $10/year increments.

This seems very sleazy. They ought to at least be forthcoming about what "regular price" is. Sounds like an issue both the franchise board and the FTC should be made aware of.
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powerspec88
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Wonder if Surewest will bump speeds

Now that we can get 100Mbps with TWC, wonder if Surewest will follow. Really don't want to switch back.
xenophon

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Re: Wonder if Surewest will bump speeds

Surewest has a new parent so will be interesting to see if they upgrade Lenexa service. They may want to see how long before Google moves into JoCo. Surewest only offers 10Mbps where I live (Plaza Westport, not true FTTH), but with Google fiber coming this year I'll be surprised if they upgrade my hood.
Mystic95Z

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Lou, Ky pricing

I'd love this pricing / speed in the Lou, Ky market... Currently internet only 20.0 is $74 a mo...
kerya666

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Valrico, FL

Sad upload?

It's good they are finally doing something but that upload speed is just laughable. Probably all of that upload will need to be used for overhead to download at 75Mbps. Hah!
BiggA

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EARTH

Upstream is the bad part

Only 5mbps? Comcast is doing 10, with Blast! I don't think criticizing them for not having 300mbps is fair, as even $90 is pushing it. I think the $55-$70 (depending on if you have Comcast cable) price point is about tops for even power users to be paying.
kd6cae
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Will TWC ever increase upload speed, ever?

I have TWC here in Southern California, and in my area it took them forever to finally have up to 50 megabits downstream. I'm glad they do, and in at least 3 years we may finally get 75 or better, but is 5 megabits all we will ever see on upstream, ever?
A friend of mine who lives in the UK, has a 100 megabits downstream tier, that's also just 5 megabits upload. He was told he'd be getting 10 megs up, but that was last summer, and he's still waiting.
I actualy have the 30mbps down, 5mbps up tier, since I'm most wanting upload. The only non-fios north American provider I've actually seen anything above 5 megabits on is Bell in Canada, where a friend there has 25 down, and 10 up. Not even AT&T U-verse is doing higher than 3mbps up to my knowledge. Can existing cable upstream seriously not go above 5 megabits for upstream, not even a little? Just curious. My internet is quite solid, but it's so interesting that cable companies across the US and even UK, most don't want to attempt breaking the 5mbits barrier on upstream. Let's hope folks try in the near future

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tmc8080

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Brooklyn, NY

back of the pack..

comcast, cablevision and others seem to be quicker to the punch on increasing speeds..

what I'm looking for is who's gonna start beating the $1/megbit price first... ?

ex. 50 megabits for $50 a month..

AIRMOTO

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Impressed

I'm a vendor that supplies equipment to TWC that provides the DOCSIS modems and eventually we'll start deploying IPTV video gateways starting in 2013. I'm impressed by the knowledge of many of you on the forum! at some point in the very near future as TWC continues to reclaim analog Bandwidth you'll see 16x4 capabilities that can push 0ver 650mg downstream.
tmc8080

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Re: Impressed

said by AIRMOTO :

I'm a vendor that supplies equipment to TWC that provides the DOCSIS modems and eventually we'll start deploying IPTV video gateways starting in 2013. I'm impressed by the knowledge of many of you on the forum! at some point in the very near future as TWC continues to reclaim analog Bandwidth you'll see 16x4 capabilities that can push 0ver 650mg downstream.

Subscribers are chomping at the bit for 50 and 100 meg speeds that are reasonably priced, first. Read post above..