Time Warner Cable Profit Tops Estimates Though uptake of speedier 50 Mbps tier still slow... Tipped by caco 
Time Warner Cable unveiled first quarter earnings today that topped most Wall Street analyst estimates. According to Time Warner Cable, the company lost 42,000 video subscribers during the quarter, but they added 102,000 digital video customers, bringing their total to 9.2 million. The company also added 212,000 residential broadband customers (9.2 million total) and 86,000 VoIP customers (4.24 million total). Revenues jumped 5.4% from last year to $4.6 billion, while earnings jumped 30% to $214 million. "We're off to a great start for 2010," said Chief Executive Glenn Britt in a conference call with analysts. "It's been quite a few quarters since we've been able to deliver such positive news." Apparently, Time Warner Cable didn't need to impose metered billing after all, and executive claims that flate-rate broadband pricing isn't sustainable appear to be in error. Time Warner Cable remains among the least aggressive companies in terms of upgrading to DOCSIS 3.0. While the company now offers the faster speeds (50/5 Mbps for $100 a month) in parts of New York City, upstate New York (Buffalo, Syracuse) and in parts of Dallas, uptake has been slow, according to company officials. Of the 212,000 new broadband customers, just 1,000 of those signed up for the company's new, 50 Mbps tier, according to company CFO Rob Marcus. Time Warner Cable announced last January that they added just 2,000 50 Mbps customers during the fourth quarter of last year. According to Marcus, 77,000 of the company's new subscribers this quarter signed up for the company's "Turbo" tier (which is usually 15 Mbps/756 Kbps), which now accounts for 11 percent of all Time Warner Cable broadband customers. As an interesting side note, Time Warner Cable announced the launch of Business Class Mobile, a business version of their re-branded Clearwire Mobile WiMax service. Business Class Mobile is currently only available in the Dallas area, though additional markets should launch soon. Time Warner Cable offers their residential Mobile WiMax service in Charlotte, Raleigh, Greensboro, Honolulu and Maui.
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 1 edit | Uptake Slow? "uptake has been slow, according to company officials."
Maybe the $100 price tag has something to do with it? | |
|  |  RARPSL join:1999-12-08 Suffern, NY | Re: Uptake Slow? said by hamburglar_:"uptake has been slow, according to company officials."Maybe the $100 price tag has something to do with it? I agree. TW has always had slow speeds and high prices for what they offer. I live in a Cablevision area (just south of a TW area). For what I pay for my 30/5 tier, just north of me I'd only get 5/.384 (or maybe that 15/.768 mentioned). For TW's $100/m, I can get 101/15 from CV (after paying a one-time $300 "provisioning" charge for them to make sure that all the settings are correct on the Head End Equipment and my local node [or some technical thing like that ]). | |
|  |  |  | | Re: Uptake Slow? yes they are slime warnber not time warner.i pay them extra bucks (59.94 per month) and still have a lot of slow kind of speeds. | |
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 iansltx join:2007-02-19 Golden, CO kudos:2 | Turbo is better in some markets In TX, Turbo tends to be 15/2. | |
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| Re: Turbo is better in some markets yeah and they are deploying DOCSIS 3.0 in dallas.
They are using 4 downstreams and 2 upstreams
Downstreams: 783MHz 789MHz 795MHz 801MHz
Upstreams: 33MHz: switched to this a few hours after channel bonding was added to node. 36.5MHz: was 36MHz on my modem before they went to channel bonding. | |
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 woody7Premium join:2000-10-13 Torrance, CA | hmmmmm.... It is more likely that they don't have direct competition in the areas hence the slow to upgrade. ?  -- BlooMe | |
|  | | speed increase Well I am waiting for this speed in-case comes around here in northwest ohio for business before I sign up for there services or I can have them build a fiber network for me. | |
|  | | Another Anti-Corporate Article Why not government run cable too? How is TW profit statement any news to this site, other than to push an anti-capitalistic agenda? | |
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 |  rawgerzThe hell was that?Premium join:2004-10-03 Grove City, PA | Re: Another Anti-Corporate Article said by Go Tarheels:Why not government run cable too? How is TW profit statement any news to this site, other than to push an anti-cap italistic agenda? --
You can't make all the people happy all of the time. But it should be common sense to shoot for the majority. | |
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 | | Better than Comcap.
Slower speeds maybe, but no monthly bandwidth caps in any of their markets. I'll take Time Warner's uncapped 15 Mbps over Comcast's capped 50 Mbps.
You can exceed Comcast's monthly bandwidth caps in under 12 hours on their 50 Mbps tier. That's not "progress" at all. It's pathetic. You don't need that extra speed if you're not even allowed to use it.
Remember how lucky you are to not live in Comcap land, Time Warner subscribers. And make sure to remain ever vigilant. You are lucky Time Warner scrapped their bandwidth cap plans a year ago. Only you can ensure they do not start considering them again. | |
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| Re: Better than Comcap. said by 45612019: I'll take Time Warner's uncapped 15 Mbps over Comcast's capped 50 Mbps. And I'll gladly take Comcast over the back-ass-wards mom & pop cable company that our town is stuck with (Northland Cable).
You see, it's all relative. | |
|  |  fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium join:2005-05-20 kudos:3 | Scrapped them "years ago" huh? Hmmm.. it only seemed like a few months back.
Dude, really.. if you believe that a company says today will remain the line the company follows forever, you're incredibly ignorant. And, it shows a problem with so many human beings today.. those who believe that someone said it today, it has to be that way forever. I bet you believe that since TWC said they don't see the need for caps, today, that it will remain true in a year? Hrmm.
I'm lucky to live in Comcap, comcrap, concast.. what ever you like to call them.. becuase I live in a system of COMCAST that works, provides good service, and has been introducing new services to me all the time.. I'm happy for that. Enjoy your old cisco box's with the old Colecovision guides and slower speeds.
I don't need more than 250gb.. I don't even need more than 100.. so to me, I could care less. I'd take CC over TWC anyday.. and I find TWC to be more expensive anyway. | |
|  |  |  | | Re: Better than Comcap. quote: I don't need more than 250gb.. I don't even need more than 100.. so to me, I could care less. I'd take CC over TWC anyday.. and I find TWC to be more expensive anyway.
Will you do me a favor if youre so inclined? A little research project if you will? If you dont want to or dont have the time I completely understand, but Im interested to see the results and would appreciate it.
Give me a total of what it would cost for me to have an equivalent set up with Comcast in your area, for accuracy and comparison sake, please make it to the exact penny, NOT including any taxes or franchise fees, only charges assessed by Comcast for programming and hardware. Im not trying to be a prick and start a pissing contest, Im just curious as to how close various providers come in price, especially considering they dont compete.
Heres what I have from Time Warner: Digital Cable, HBO, Cinemax, Showtime/The Movie Channel, Starz, Encore, Sports Tier, Latino Tier, HD Tier, Two HD DVRs, Digital Phone, Road Runner Turbo. (I also have NHL Center Ice and MLB Extra Innings, but those cost the same no matter who you have so Im not counting them)
So basically Im looking at what it would cost if I lived in your area for their triple play package with their fastest non DOCSIS 3 broadband option, all of the movie channels, the premium Sports and Spanish packages and any Premium HD package. Not sure if they are like Dish, DirecTV, TWC and probably others that have an optional HD package with a small handful of channels, typically HD only channels like MGM HD, Smithsonian HD and HD Net, you know channels that have no SD feed. And also include any other add on packages. Here with digital cable you get every channel (except the premium movie, sports, latino and HD channels obviously), I know some areas have an Entertainment or Variety add on tier or a generic Movie Tier that includes channels like IFC and Fox Movies. We dont have none of that, for regular channels, its all or nothing. Those channels that would typically be included in those types of packages are included with regular digital cable.
Please no promotional pricing, I could careless about $99 triple play for a year or two, I want MSRP. I just want digital cable with all the trimmings (excluding the porn, international channels and any other oddball thing), the fastest Comcast HSI option and Comcast Digital Voice. Not sure if CDV carries any additional options at cost but all TW Digital Phone has is International OnePrice which just allows you to make unlimited calls to anywhere in the world for a flat rate instead of per minute pricing outside of the US, Canada and various US Territories. And dont forget the two HD DVRs, not sure if theres different rates, between SD and HD DVRs with Comcast or not.
So please, if you will, post some prices (Maybe an itemized list?) and lets compare apples to apples as best as we can. -- Time Warner Cable Subscriber, Fanboy & Lover Rochester, NY Digital Cable, Digital Phone and Broadband
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 | | Want to get rid of TWC (and cable tv) I only watch about 5-6 channels and have 7Mbps, paying $140/month. Otherwise use Netflix/Hulu.
Wish Discovery/NatGeo/History channels offered streaming of all content, would then get rid of cable altogether. I'd be willing to pay $5-$10/month per network if they offered streaming directly, such as via PlayOn.
The cable industry is in trouble as streaming becomes more prevalent. I can afford cable but don't see any reason to pay that much for a handful of channels. | |
|  |  dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium join:2001-04-27 Phoenix, AZ kudos:4 | Re: Want to get rid of TWC (and cable tv) said by xenophon:I only watch about 5-6 channels and have 7Mbps, paying $140/month. Otherwise use Netflix/Hulu. Wish Discovery/NatGeo/History channels offered streaming of all content, would then get rid of cable altogether. I'd be willing to pay $5-$10/month per network if they offered streaming directly, such as via PlayOn. The cable industry is in trouble as streaming becomes more prevalent. I can afford cable but don't see any reason to pay that much for a handful of channels. cord cutters is why there are caps on hsi -- The shortest distance between 2 points adds 1.5 stars to T. want $50? solve »coord.info/GC20A37 for me | |
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| said by xenophon:I Wish Discovery/NatGeo/History channels offered streaming of all content, would then get rid of cable altogether. I'd be willing to pay $5-$10/month per network if they offered streaming directly, such as via PlayOn. I've been trying for years and can't pull off what exactly I like to watch over the computer. I simply can't stream about 4 channels I watch most of the time and they aren't on basic cable. Can't avoid cable yet but it's getting close. | |
|  |  |  | | Re: Want to get rid of TWC (and cable tv) said by Corehhi:I've been trying for years and can't pull off what exactly I like to watch over the computer. I simply can't stream about 4 channels I watch most of the time and they aren't on basic cable. Can't avoid cable yet but it's getting close. I watch these on TV through PS3/playon, not via computer. | |
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 fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium join:2005-05-20 kudos:3 | Gotta love numbers and stats... These are both things that can be read anyone you want them to be..
"We made a lot of money"... easy to say when you've also not spent much of that money back into your system with DS3 upgrades, but most likely planned on it in the pricing of your products.
"No one really is taking our DS3 speeds"... no crap! No one is willing to pay $100 a month for it... drop the price to something more reasonable and people will likely take it. Your next gen service shouldn't be priced that far over your last gen system.. and when you move into next gen, your last gen should start dropping in price. I do understand that the longer you own and operate something, the more your profit margin rises. For that, alone, they don't need to charge the same retail price for it, rather, they need to look at the profit margin and net amount made. They're really not losing anything.
This can be said against ANY provider. Gross revenue isn't what they need to look it, its net. I DO find it troubling that they continue to RAISE the profit margin on an old technology. They'd be amazed, I believe, at how much adaption they'd get if they'd price the next gen service at a more realistic price. Its going to happen sooner or later.. it's best to get more people to adapt to it at a reasonable rate than it is to expect that a few people are going to pay the bills at a higher rate - that's just insane thinking. | |
|  |  | | Re: Gotta love numbers and stats... said by fiberguy:They'd be amazed, I believe, at how much adaption they'd get if they'd price the next gen service at a more realistic price. Its going to happen sooner or later.. To say "sooner or later" in a discussion like this really makes on look just as smart as someone that says "sooner or later it's going to get dark today".. no kidding.
Damn cable companies. TW has low caps on today's service while featuring high prices for tomorrow's. | |
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| disruptive pricing send that 50 megabit tier a price chop-- to $50 a month! it's well past time for a absurdly asymmetric tier such as that to get a huge price cut! if need be charge more for a symmetric tier but you still should NOT be raping customers for $100 a month for so-called unlimited internet access of which, like comcast start throttling with aggressive usage (particualrly on the upload). | |
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| Re: disruptive pricing said by tmc8080:send that 50 megabit tier a price chop-- to $50 a month! it's well past time for a absurdly asymmetric tier such as that to get a huge price cut! if need be charge more for a symmetric tier but you still should NOT be raping customers for $100 a month for so-called unlimited internet access of which, like comcast start throttling with aggressive usage (particualrly on the upload). this is ridiculous in this time and age even surewest is behind the rest of the world i dont see 50mb and 100mb at affordable price 50mb for surewest is 192.00 a month no thank you! 20mb 70.00 10mb 54.00 5mb 40.00 1mb 30.00 everything is so expensive in the USA
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|  |  |  | | Re: disruptive pricing that's commical, in my area, 5 meg internet w/ cable company is 89.95 PLUS the tv charge (varies on package)
we don't even have a DVR offered, or any HD channels. | |
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