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 swintecPremium,VIP
join:2003-12-19
Alfred, ME
kudos:3 | Great! Now how about you actually bring the DOCSIS 3 service to TW New England! | |
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| Re: Great! You need to tell your local Mgt that. Each TW Division acts on its own and not part of TWC Corporate on those matters. Try calling TWC Corp regarding something with your local Division and see where they refer you back to. That's something TWC as always had ass-backwords and was suppose to fix it and merge everyone on the east side of the US to TWC East and the west would be TWC West but that NEVER happened either. Just like most of their other "upgrades" and "changes" to make things better. | |
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| | | | | Re: Great! TWC as a rule normally does NOT give out batteries for EMTAs. Not sure if its a national rule yet/anymore but they even state on their website no battery backup. | |
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| |  MattAll noise, no signal.Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
kudos:12 | said by IowaCowboy:I just wish TWC would use batteries in their EMTAs because my grandmother (who will be 80 next March) needs reliable phone service (such as power outages) and she refuses to do business with FairPoint. I have offered to pick up a UPS power block at Best Buy but she does not want to spend the money. At least she has a cell phone. TWC is mandated to use batteries in their EMTAs here. They don't offer any DOCSIS 3.0 EMTAs at the moment though. | |
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| | | | | Re: Great! i wonder how that works since Vonage isn't required to have one and they advertise as a phone line replacement as well. And actually call themselves a phone company. | |
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join:2010-01-21
Winston Salem, NC
kudos:1 | Re: Great! TW just like Vonage has it buried in the fine print that if you loose power that you will have no service. | |
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| | | | | | | Re: Great! i know but TWC will tell you and its on their website NO BATTERY backup. That's why i said i wonder how NC can force them to provide a battery when they dont force Vonage. | |
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| | | | | | | | Re: Great! said by hottboiinnc:i know but TWC will tell you and its on their website NO BATTERY backup. That's why i said i wonder how NC can force them to provide a battery when they dont force Vonage.
Simplest answer might be that TWC is facilities-based, and Vonage is not.
TWC has a physical presence, therefore would be required to follow state/local regulations. Similar to how you can buy from newegg/amazon/etc. with no sales tax in some states that have a sales tax. NC may not have jurisdiction over Vonage, as Vonage may not have any facilities within NC.
I know from looking at router logs that the Vonage box here connects to a server in NJ. | |
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join:2010-01-21
Winston Salem, NC
kudos:1 Reviews:
·RoadRunner Cable
| TW use to be mandated to provide EMTA batteries... they no longer provide them here. The last time I give their expensive phone service a try, I had to threaten to pull the service right back out (within minutes of installation) just to get a battery. The technician smarted off about what good a battery would do me if the cable plant lost power...but finally caved and located one. The cable plant loosing power is not my concern and they should have to keep it up and running no matter what, especially since TV is going digital now and the need to have a reliable phone service like traditional bell service.
We have to keep in mind that HSI and phone services through TW are not regulated like they are through the true bell companies.
I wonder if areas that have received FIOS or UVERSE have problems with the network/phones going down during power outages? I would assume these companies have battery backup all along their networks to keep everything going just like traditional phone services have always been mandated. | |
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| FiOS and U-verse have a battery but their limited to how much talk time and stand-by time you have. I've heard on here its about 8hrs of standby and 3hrs of talk.
And again- the new services are NOT the same as copper and are NOT regulated as such. | |
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| | | | MattAll noise, no signal.Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
kudos:12 | said by thomasr:We have to keep in mind that HSI and phone services through TW are not regulated like they are through the true bell companies. Time Warner is regulated and registered as an ILEC with the PUC in North Carolina. Unless something has changed in the laws, they must provide battery backup.
For fiber providers, they generally do it at the ONT on the house. My ONT has a Cyberpower battery backup. The installer told me the ONT goes into a low power mode and will only provide battery power for voice in the event of a power outage however.
Perhaps not so coincidentally, there is a huge APC UPS near what looks like the TW aggregation point in my subdivision. Perhaps they are able to provide centralized battery power now rather than EMTA?
FWIW, my co-worker tried to order DOCSIS 3.0 and was turned down because they don't have DOCSIS 3.0 EMTAs with battery power yet. | |
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 Vchat20Landing is the REAL challengePremium
join:2003-09-16
Columbus, OH | Wonder how quickly... Wonder how quickly the content companies are going to hound them over this? "YOU ARE ENCOURAGING OUR CUSTOMERS TO WATCH OUR CONTENT WHERE WE DONT WANT THEM TO! SHAME ON YOU!" | |
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| | | supporting the competition how funny is it that tw is giving away sling boxes which are made by echostar aka Dish network. | |
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| | | | Re: supporting the competition the 2 companies are NOT the same anymore. Dish Network is its own company and EchoStar is its own company. They split a few years ago. | |
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join:2011-04-20
Royal Oak, MI | Re: supporting the competition said by hottboiinnc:the 2 companies are NOT the same anymore. Dish Network is its own company and EchoStar is its own company. They split a few years ago.
Technially they're two companies. But they are both owned by the same people. So in they might as well be one and the same.
Dish sells a $99 Slingbox that connects via usb. What does the TW box connect with? | |
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| | | Re: Wonder how quickly... I actually think that is their plan on this.
They are overtly showing the content providers that their content can be watched anywhere by anyone with the Slingbox in place, while TWC's iPad app only allows the subscriber to watch the iPad app video behind the modem that is on their account.
So they sue TWC over the iPad app, but don't sue Echostar over the Slingbox, which is not as secure as the iPad app. | |
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| Exactly.
This is just a move in the face of the content providers.
TWC to Content providers: "See you get all worked up for our iPad app, yet these Slingboxes have been around for years and they are OK? Well we will just give away slingboxes then, F you guys!" | |
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join:2003-09-15
Cary, NC | What About Us 30/5 Customers? The top two tiers have the same upload speed (5 Mbps) so why should only the 50/5 people get this deal? Since the Slingbox would almost certainly be at the service address, the higher download speed is not relevant. | |
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | Re: What About Us 30/5 Customers? Because you're paying $30 less for internet vs. 50/5 customers, duh. | |
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| | RWildThem Or UsPremium
join:2003-09-15
Cary, NC | Re: What About Us 30/5 Customers? But, as far as the Slingbox, not getting any more - 5 Mbps up.
Oh, Oh, I see. I'm supposed to be too stupid to realize this and upgrade. | |
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| Just 5mbps upload for the top tier? Ripoff.
Even Comcast has 10 - 20mbps for their 105mbps tier.
Guess TWC never heard of upstream channel bonding or 64QAM upstream modulation. Maybe they should attend some cable shows and get some subscriptions to industry related publications. | |
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| | | | Re: What About Us 30/5 Customers? I'll take my uncapped 5 Mbps over your bandwidth capped Comcap connection, kthx.
That "10 - 20 mbps" upload is really only a 768 Kbps upload with that 250 GB bandwidth cap.
Also have fun hitting your monthly quota in 6 hours on that 105 Mbps tier.
Meanwhile, on Time Warner Cable's 50 Mbps package, which currently has no bandwidth caps, you can transfer enough data in one month to exceed Comcap's bandwidth limit over 60 times.
Have fun being subscribed to Comcap for 5 years to get the same amount of bandwidth "allowance" that a Time Warner Cable 50/5 Mbps subscriber gets in one month.  | |
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| | | | | Re: What About Us 30/5 Customers? I don't have Comcast. They don't service my area. | |
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I don't care if they upgrade their network to 1 Gbps. As long as that bandwidth cap is in place it's like having a Ferrari that can only drive for a mile before running out of gas. And you're not allowed to refill until next month. And gas costs $100 a gallon. | |
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join:2011-04-20
Royal Oak, MI | Re: What About Us 30/5 Customers? said by 45612019:Then why are you pimping a service that you have never used? Comcap should never be held up as an example of a superior service when their bandwidth cap effectively limits you to using your connection at an average speed of under 1 Mbps for your billing period.
I don't care if they upgrade their network to 1 Gbps. As long as that bandwidth cap is in place it's like having a Ferrari that can only drive for a mile before running out of gas. And you're not allowed to refill until next month. And gas costs $100 a gallon.
Look I hate caps with a passion too. But you keep acting like people use the connection 24/7 and I know of no residential customer who does that. The fact is, if you stream video or have more than one stream at the same time and you use less than 250gb per month, then higher speeds are very benificial. And most people never approach that limit. I do and so I switched to WOW (which is upcapped). | |
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| I used to live in a Comcast area and I had 105/10 for the price of regular (thanks to being a local beta tester). The cap was never an issue for me.
Now I moved out of the area and I'm told they upped it to 105/20.
All I'm saying is it's possible to run those speeds on HFC Cable plant. If they can do it, why can't TWC? It's called 64QAM 6.4 MHz upstream channels, upstream channel bonding, etc....
5mbps upload is a little low in my opinion for that level of download.
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join:2010-01-21
Winston Salem, NC
kudos:1 Reviews:
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| A devious ploy? This could be TW's attempt to overburden the network and then complain about the slingbox's impact on QOS. Also, several people have started questioning slingbox's "Free Ride" while MSO's have been beat down over DVR patents/implementations and IPAD apps that allow channels to be watched in the home on the IPAD.
Now that TW has latched on to the idea of giving away slingbox's, I think they are trying to draw another spotlight to an offering that is riddled with legalities meant to hurt the consumer. The consumer can't have what they want, only what content providers wish them to have - especially when it is only TW to benefit monetarily from the idea of hooking consumers with a slingbox to exploit their TV everywhere desires.
Can't wait for the content owners to cry foul on this too  especially if it works out to be a popular promotion with consumers. | |
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| prices... verizon's stand-alone 50/20 is $139.95 cablevision's boost 50/8 for $64.95
TIme Warner? right in the middle.. $100.... I think it's also 50/5(not 8). Let's see where rates go as Verizon deploys more fiber into buildings in Brooklyn, Queens, and Manhattan.
I'm not in that much of a rush to get faster speeds (unless it's a free upgrade, hehe). I've seen the days of low 300-56k dialup slog along (even under non crc file transfer protocols) a few megs back and forth... | |
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| | | Re: prices... actually verizon is 89.99 only in nyc. for the 50/20 package.
so technically time warner is the highest here | |
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| Re: prices... said by karma :actually verizon is 89.99 only in nyc. for the 50/20 package.
so technically time warner is the highest here
That's probably right but the website (w/o specifying location says $139.95).. but YMMV outside of NY Metro, you'll see that as a bundled price b/c Comcast & AT&T are the only other non-competitors in the market selling a soft or hard capped internet service so VZ feels justified in charging more.
** With the amount of concentrated pre-built fiber in the notheast, the price should be $50 by now, but that's crazy talk where fiber routes are concentrated amongst major metro & population centers and intra-state & federal highways & railways. These duopolies will charge a larger multiple to bring broadband to the last mile. It's too bad Amtrack didnt' become a tier-1 isp... Comcast and AT&T would have had some potential competition if they'd become a last mile carrier of broadband. | |
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