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Time Warner To Relaunch Roll Over/Get Tough PR Stunt
In carriage dispute with Disney, as Verizon gets prematurely aggressive...
by Karl Bode Tuesday 13-Jul-2010 tags: Video · competition · business · cable · telco · consumers · TimeWarner · Verizon
Time Warner Cable's agreement to carry Disney (ABC, ESPN) channels doesn't expire until September 2, but the NY Times notes that Verizon's already scaring users in several markets into thinking they need to switch to FiOS TV or they'll lose access to Disney programming. Verizon's obviously taking advantage of the kind of ugly carriage disputes we've seen in recent months (Dish Versus The Weather Channel, Disney/Cablevision, Time Warner Cable vs. Fox) but this is a particularly aggressive and premature move by Verizon, as companies scuffle over existing customers:

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Analysts said Verizon's aggression -- it is highly unusual for a so-called switch campaign to pop up almost two months ahead of a deadline -- is fresh evidence that cable giants like Time Warner are under increasing pressure. On one side are insurgents in the pay-TV delivery wars (Verizon, DirecTV, AT&T, Dish Network) that are trying to build market share by offering consumers more for less. And they are succeeding.

Well, sort of. Outside of promotional deals (which often provide the illusion of value ahead of actual value), companies are largely engaged in non-price competition, and cable, satellite and telco TV operators raise rates in unison. These feuds between broadcasters and cable operators certainly don't benefit customers, who wind up paying higher bills no matter which side wins out in negotiations.

And while Time Warner Cable tells the Times negotiations with Disney continue in "good faith," an insider at Time Warner Cable tells Broadband Reports that the company is soon going to relaunch their "Roll Over Or Get Tough" campaign taking aim at Disney. Time Warner Cable rolled out the PR stunt in their battle with Fox, which was designed to rile up their customers so they'd contact Fox and complain.

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yolarry

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I done

with tv anyways.

cableties
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Re: I done

I agree.

Cable companies lack ... vision. And soon, customers.
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Re: I done

said by cableties:

I agree.

Cable companies lack ... vision. And soon, customers.
Yeah that DOCSIS3.0 and 100 Mbps internet tiers is lack of vision and for the lack of customers... well wishful thinking.

All other providers are doing the same thing the problem is that BBR make it such an issue when it comes to the cable operators and in particular Time Warner.

How come I did not see this news here?
»www.multichannel.com/article/454···ices.php
CopperFiber

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Last time they did this they still increased their rates.
Kearnstd
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its Broadcast Network though

cant CV just throw an Antenna up and pull the feed that way if Disney cuts off their direct feed?
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Re: its Broadcast Network though

said by Kearnstd:

cant CV just throw an Antenna up and pull the feed that way if Disney cuts off their direct feed?
Try picking up ESPN with an antenna. Plus, CV (or any cable company) needs permission to carry any signal. They can't just pick it up and toss it on the system. It hasn't always been this way (the original master antenna systems were cooperative affairs) but once cable TV became such a massive industry this is now the norm.
axus

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Re: its Broadcast Network though

Ha! I was watching ESPN over an antenna last weekend. It was the World Cup on ABC.

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said by axus:

Ha! I was watching ESPN over an antenna last weekend. It was the World Cup on ABC.
How about this week?
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said by 56403739:

said by Kearnstd:

cant CV just throw an Antenna up and pull the feed that way if Disney cuts off their direct feed?
Try picking up ESPN with an antenna. Plus, CV (or any cable company) needs permission to carry any signal. They can't just pick it up and toss it on the system. It hasn't always been this way (the original master antenna systems were cooperative affairs) but once cable TV became such a massive industry this is now the norm.
we need to have the RSN's back on scrambled OTA so you can see your teams games. With out needed to buy lots of carp channles. also have a sports only pack that has your RSN + epsn + MLB network, NFL network, NBA TV, NHL network, VS + TNT + TBS.

why not make Disney, Disney HD, Disney West, Disney XD, Disney XD HD a premium channels like it used to be.

also put ESPN, ESPN HD, ESPN 2, ESPN 2 HD, ESPNU, ESPNU HD, ESPN NEWS, ESPN NEWS HD, espn classic in to a ESPN pack.

In the UK sky sports is a premium channels group just like ESPN UK is one as well.
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said by 56403739:

said by Kearnstd:

cant CV just throw an Antenna up and pull the feed that way if Disney cuts off their direct feed?
Try picking up ESPN with an antenna.
I'd rather not pick up ESPN at all...

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Re: its Broadcast Network though

said by talz13:

I'd rather not pick up ESPN at all...
Actually, that's working quite well for us too.
Kearnstd
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Disney also owns ABC 7 which is an OTA network. meaning i doubt they could prevent CV from showing it since Cable is no different than if someone put an antenna
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Re: its Broadcast Network though

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Disney also owns ABC 7 which is an OTA network. meaning i doubt they could prevent CV from showing it since Cable is no different than if someone put an antenna
Wrong. So utterly, completely wrong.

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Access providers have to get tough with content providers

The big 5 content providers have been raping all the access providers. And that includes cable; sat; telcos; etc. If the access providers don't play just a little tough, customer costs will rise even faster than they already are. But customers whine like little girls every time the access providers stand up to the content providers and some station they like is off the air for a week. And they whine again when the access provider then has to raise rates. In other words, the customers deserve what happens to them because they can't tough out even a short time period where they don't get their way.

And the access providers don't help their own cause when they attack each other every time the content providers hold a knife to a competitors throat.
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Re: Access providers have to get tough with content providers

The only way this changes is for subscribers to realize they don't watch most of what they pay for, and stop paying for it. You're being treated like coke addicts.

The entire pay TV business model is out of control. Time to cut the cable.
ReneM

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Easy solution

Put all offenders (e.g. Disney with ABC, ESPN) into their own package or pay per view tier and then let Disney see who wants to watch them and what they are willing to pay for. I'll watch ABC and ESPN if they are free but i wouldn't shed a single tear if they go away.

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Re: Easy solution

I doubt Disney would ever accept that; I'm sure they'd pull the channels before allowing ESPN to be on a premium tier. But it's a nice idea and would probably be the best solution if all parties were actually interested in the "best" solution.

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time for al la cart

instead of unlimited TV, they should charge by the minute.
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The last time they pulled this stunt....

....they rolled over and got a deal with Fox for an "unknown" amount of money. But you can bet that since they don't disclose that amount (and they never would anyways) that it didn't go their way. Otherwise they would have put a big claim out that they got a deal without increase of fees to News Corp.

They will probably roll over again, won't tell anyone for how much they rolled over, and make the public believe they actually really got tough.

And don't think it's the same with any other provider, the only ones that currently have the advantage are NEW providers like U-Verse and FIOS, because their deals won't renew for another few years.... but they will have to "roll over" just the same when their contracts are up.
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