 exocet_cmBuckle up, it's the lawPremium join:2003-03-23 New Orleans, LA kudos:2 | AT&T Customers Dial a number, goes to voicemail, press "0" (zero, not O) instead of listening to the "At the tone, please leave a message, or after leaving your message, press ___ for additional options.... [beep]" message.
Pressing "0" will bypass the introductory message and after leaving a voicemail, just hang up. -- "I have measured out my life with coffee spoons..." - T.S Eliot "I have often regretted my speech, never my silence." - Publilius Syrus Ma blog: »www.johndball.com | |
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 |  iansltx join:2007-02-19 Golden, CO kudos:2 | Re: AT&T Customers Sometimes it's * though. | |
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 |  |  Lark3poPremium join:2003-08-05 Madison, AL 1 edit | Re: AT&T Customers And other times pressing "1" will bypass... Hell, it might be pressing any key will bypass the the message. | |
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 |  |  |  | | Re: AT&T Customers 1 # * should do it. If you hit those keys in that order it should take care of all of them.
I hate the stupid waste of time. It's 2009, I think we all know how to leave a message now! | |
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 |  |  |  |  | | Re: AT&T Customers Don't hit the wrong key, or it'll ask you for your password instead. Then you've wasted time and an extra call! Skip seems to be * for verizon, # for AT&T and T-Mobile, 1 for sprint. (This is in California... it may be different elsewhere!) | |
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 wifi4milezBig Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace join:2004-08-07 New York, NY | Get Youmail For those that dont have the option to change their carrier supplied VM, I suggest trying Youmail. Its a free service, and it provides a lot of cool features like customized voicemails for individual callers, call transcriptions, and voicemail to mp3 conversions. It also completely removes the annoying "voicemail instructions" being discussed here. If you do decide to use it, please be aware that Sprint (and only Sprint) charges $0.20 per minute for voicemails left. -- Obama = Jimmy Carter part 2 "Secret operations are essential in war; upon them the army relies to make its every move" -Sun Tzu-
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 |  |  |  wifi4milezBig Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace join:2004-08-07 New York, NY | Re: Get Youmail said by CMoore2004:Nevermind... looks like they get ya by the call forward function. Indeed they do. | |
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 |  |  wifi4milezBig Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace join:2004-08-07 New York, NY | said by CMoore2004:What exactly does Sprint charge for? I'm a bit unclear how that works, and how they can charge. Your voicemail is (obviously) reached by dialing your phone number. Sprint allows you to change the destination of this phone number, but when you do they charge you $0.20 per minute for 'call forwarding'. This means that I get charged $0.20 for every minute of voicemail I receive. This ends up costing me an extra $10 per month, but its worth it. -- Obama = Jimmy Carter part 2 "Secret operations are essential in war; upon them the army relies to make its every move" -Sun Tzu-
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 |  |  |  wifi4milezBig Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace join:2004-08-07 New York, NY | Re: Get Youmail said by fjr3020:Sprint does not charge anything you just have the option of removing that option That is incorrect. Sprint charges $0.20 per minute for call forward. | |
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| Re: Get Youmail said by wifi4milez:That is incorrect. Sprint charges $0.20 per minute for call forward. You used to be able to skirt by the charges if you had a Sprint Rep initiate...
No Answer Call Forwarding Busy Call Forwarding Unreachable Call Forwarding
...instead of Unconditional Call Forwarding (which is default).
I don't think that trick works any more. I suppose I could grab one of the Sprint bills from the comptroller, then I'd know for sure.
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 |  |  |  |  |  wifi4milezBig Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace join:2004-08-07 New York, NY | Re: Get Youmail said by Noah Vail:said by wifi4milez:That is incorrect. Sprint charges $0.20 per minute for call forward. You used to be able to skirt by the charges if you had a Sprint Rep initiate... No Answer Call Forwarding Busy Call Forwarding Unreachable Call Forwarding ...instead of Unconditional Call Forwarding (which is default). I don't think that trick works any more. I suppose I could grab one of the Sprint bills from the comptroller, then I'd know for sure. NV What you describe is actually what I did, and unfortunately the trick doesnt seem to work anymore. If you get a chance please do check an invoice and see if the charges are showing up. If not, I will give Sprint a buzz and see if I can trick them into re-activating it! -- Obama = Jimmy Carter part 2 "Secret operations are essential in war; upon them the army relies to make its every move" -Sun Tzu-
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| I've been using this for two months now on my Storm. Is the best FREE voicemail app that I've seen. Not only saves me the $2.99 visual voicemail charge from VZ but it has so many more useful features...
I love how it greats my contacts by name or I can have different voicemail playbacks depending on the contact or group... | |
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 |  |  wifi4milezBig Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace join:2004-08-07 New York, NY | Re: Get Youmail said by chemaupr:I've been using this for two months now on my Storm. Is the best FREE voicemail app that I've seen. Not only saves me the $2.99 visual voicemail charge from VZ but it has so many more useful features... I love how it greats my contacts by name or I can have different voicemail playbacks depending on the contact or group... Yep, the visual voicemail is pretty sweet. I am also a huge fan of the fact that I get an email (with attached mp3) of all the voicemails I get. If its an important message I can forward it along to someone else, and do other things with it. Youmail is definitely a great service. -- Obama = Jimmy Carter part 2 "Secret operations are essential in war; upon them the army relies to make its every move" -Sun Tzu-
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 ke4pymPremium join:2004-07-24 Charlotte, NC | How to fix Engadget had a post last week on how to modify the greeting for AT&T, Sprint and Verizon.
Pretty easy. | |
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 | | Old AOL tactic I remember back in the day of the 10 hours/month AOL days.
They had a class action suit filed for bilking customers out minutes wasted for the slow log in and disconnect screens. | |
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 The BeerI Love It When A Plan Comes TogetherPremium join:2001-07-24 Omaha, NE | US Cellular Interesting you say that...
I have been trying to get US Cellular to drop reading me the Caller ID of every caller for years!
All my users complain about waiting for it when they already had that information! | |
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 | | What kind of person is hurt by this? I guess I think it's silly because I never come close to going over my minutes quota included in my plan. If I did that with any sort of regularity I'd upgrade to the next package level.... | |
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 |  | | Re: What kind of person is hurt by this? Unfortunately, the type of person who doesn't read these forums and is likely to get blindsided by going over their minute allotment. | |
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 |  |  en102Canadian, eh? join:2001-01-26 Valencia, CA | Re: What kind of person is hurt by this? Exactly. Those on 'prepaid' would notice it the most. If carriers posted a 'cost/minute' of what people use in their plan, they would find out that prepaid (for many) or even a lower plan might be cheaper. -- Canada = Hollywood North | |
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 | | Retarded statistics If VZW customers leave 2 messages a day chances are only one is out of network and it doesn't cost a penny until you go into overages. Another waste of electrons. | |
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 jester121Premium join:2003-08-09 Lake Zurich, IL | Sigh This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Every voicemail system I've ever used (home, business, etc.) has these types of greetings.
Talk about much ado, is this really the most serious injustice in the world? | |
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 |  JDLSU join:2007-10-07 Denham Springs, LA | I think i remember old Alltel ads that advertised them billing by the exact second, no interval at all. The ad had clocks counting time above the callers heads and when one hung up the clock kept running but when the Alltel customer hung up the clock stopped on that second. Of course that was years ago and there is no Alltel anymore... | |
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 |  |  | | Re: If you think the 15-Second Voice Mail Cash Cow is abusive. said by JDLSU:I think i remember old Alltel ads that advertised them billing by the exact second, no interval at all. The ad had clocks counting time above the callers heads and when one hung up the clock kept running but when the Alltel customer hung up the clock stopped on that second. Of course that was years ago and there is no Alltel anymore... I remember those! Lol as soon as I read this article that exactly commercial played in my head. | |
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| There IS alltel. Who do you think they are? Many areas are still under Alltel's mgt until VZW takes them all under. And all those areas that Alltel had to spin off---those are ALL still Alltel.
Also I can still sign up for Alltel service. If there wasn't any Alltel I wouldn't be able to sign up. | |
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 |  kyler13Is your fiber grounded? join:2006-12-12 Arnold, MD | In fairness to landline, most everything these days is unlimited, long distance included. But even if you go with metered long distance, there are a number of choices among third party long distance providers that bill by the 6-second interval and they've been doing this for years. Before I switched to VoIP, I had some New England outfit that did this. Much more economical, but I also found some companies would scam you by charging you a higher per minute rate for 0.1 minute billing versus whole minute billing within their own selection of plans. | |
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 pokesphIt Is Almost FastPremium join:2001-06-25 Sacramento, CA kudos:1 | 15-Second Voicemail Cash Cow hmm.. haven't noticed any 'extra' charges for accessing my voicemail (or for callers to leave one).. it's always been and still is free with Nextel. | |
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 | | FINALLY, SOMEONE ELSE HATES THIS! Yes! Finally, someone other than me finds this incredibly annoying!
I wrote to Verizon in 2005, to complain about this and they responded by saying "we are in the process of updating our voicemail software, you can expect an improvement soon." So 4 years later, they obviously lied and it's appalling these companies openly admit this is done only to increase ARPU.
What a horribly greedy and wasteful world we live in. We use our own technology to degrade services to blatantly rip off customers.
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 sivranBack to Opera againPremium join:2003-09-15 Arlington, TX kudos:1 Reviews:
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| Charging to check voicemail That checking voicemail is not always free is why I rarely check my voicemail from my cell. Well, that and the airtime on my prepaid sidekick is a whopping 15c/min. I generally just let the VM wait until I get to a landline to check it from. -- The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon profitable cause... | |
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 | | What about wasting our time? My biggest issue with it is that it's a waste of time. I just figured out how to skip this a couple of weeks ago. Every time I leave someone a voicemail, it takes 30 seconds to listen to the greeting and the instructions - I timed it last night. Most people are a-holes these days when it comes to using their cell phones. They're trying to multitask and save themselves time while wasting everyone else's time or worse yet, talking on one while driving and causing wrecks. I decided I'm not going to be one of those a-holes, and so those 30 seconds waiting to leave a voicemail are a big annoyance to me and I was really glad to find out I could skip it.
As far as revenue, I don't think most people understand the business decisions behind the voicemail systems. Cell phone plans are set up to severely punish customers who don't buy extras of minutes or messages or whatever. 50¢ per minute for going over? Really? 20¢ for receiving 160 bytes of data??? The idea is to heard the sheep towards a more expensive plan. the carriers would rather have an extra $20 a month for 2 years than have two months with $40 overages over that same 2 year period. You do the math.
According to my rough calculations, if just 1% of VZW customers moved to a higher plan because of extra minutes used leaving AND LISTENING TO voicemail, and the next plan up costs an extra $20, that's $18 million a month or $216 M a year.
Another thing, VZW doesn't consider voicemail to be "in-network". If the VZW voicemail system isn't on VZW's network, then whose network is it on? | |
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 |  morboComplete Your Transaction join:2002-01-22 00000 | Re: What about wasting our time? said by cyclone_z:My biggest issue with it is that it's a waste of time. agreed. | |
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 CylonRedPremium,MVM join:2000-07-06 Bloom County | Does not cost me a thing... then agian - I never use all of our minutes either. | |
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 djweis join:2006-04-02 West Des Moines, IA | Turn it off yourself I've turned that announcement off on my Verizon phone five+ years ago. It's in the menus -- you can change it yourself. | |
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| Yes, add 2 more seconds... While your at it, add 2 more seconds on how to bypass this altogether and press the correct number to just leave a message.. so they only grab you once... Still, this is the fault of the schmo who's voicemail it is if they have an option to diable that end of recorded message instruction.
This cuts both ways, if the caller has UNLIMITED cellular plan (usually prepaid), than it hurts the company by wasting an extra 15 seconds of call air time on the cell site. | |
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Sprint is the worst about this! I always know when I am calling a Sprint customer because after I hear their VM greeting, the system tells me how to leave a message, not once but twice. It has been a peeve of mine for years. | |
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