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They had a superior product. Now they are just a computer app. | |
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 |  Subaru1-3-2-4Premium
join:2001-05-31
Greenwich, CT | Re: ReplayTV My aunt still has her ReplayTV. | |
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| | | | Re: ReplayTV I couldn't give my replaytv away. I offered it free to 5 people who all said no. | |
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| | | Subaru1-3-2-4Premium
join:2001-05-31
Greenwich, CT | Re: ReplayTV lol why do you think that is? | |
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|  mph300Two Thirds The Way There
join:2000-11-09 | said by ninjatutle:went bye bye. They had a superior product. Now they are just a computer app. Really???? my three replay tvs work flawlessly and skip commercials automatically!
mike
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|  tobyTroy Mcclure
join:2001-11-13
Seattle, WA | My 3 are doing fine. | |
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| | | | Re: ReplayTV I love my 3 ReplayTV's, but had to submit to comcast's motorola dvr for HiDef, at least for now. | |
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| | | You're right about that! Merging with Comcast wouldn't be a bad idea. Comcast's interface needs the help anyway! | |
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 banditws6Shrinking Time and DistancePremium
join:2001-08-18
Frisco, TX
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| Acquisition could be good... If Comcast acquires TiVo, I wouldn't mind seeing a rollout of TiVo-like software to Comcast's DVR boxes. I have both a TiVo Series 2, and a Scientific Atlanta 8300HD DVR through Comcast. While the 8300HD is by far the technologically superior box, the SARA software makes me want to pull my hair out. And just this week, it inexplicably failed to record one of my season passes. The TiVo software has just plain worked, and done so gracefully, every day of its life.
(The TiVo box's hardware itself, on the other hand, has continually and repeatedly failed...)
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|  LokerPremium
join:2004-07-11
Fargo, ND | Re: Acquisition could be good... said by banditws6:If Comcast acquires TiVo, I wouldn't mind seeing a rollout of TiVo-like software to Comcast's DVR boxes. I have both a TiVo Series 2, and a Scientific Atlanta 8300HD DVR through Comcast. While the 8300HD is by far the technologically superior box, the SARA software makes me want to pull my hair out. And just this week, it inexplicably failed to record one of my season passes. The TiVo software has just plain worked, and done so gracefully, every day of its life. (The TiVo box's hardware itself, on the other hand, has continually and repeatedly failed...) Tivo software is already headed to Comcasts DVR's.....Motorola boxes this year and SA boxes eventually....
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| | banditws6Shrinking Time and DistancePremium
join:2001-08-18
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| Re: Acquisition could be good... said by Loker:Tivo software is already headed to Comcasts DVR's.....Motorola boxes this year and SA boxes eventually.... Indeed it is, as an option for an additional monthly fee. If Comcast acquired TiVo, perhaps that fee would be unnecessary.
(More likely it'd just be rolled into an increased DVR cost, I suppose...)
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| haertig
join:2000-12-31
Broomfield, CO | Re: Crap! said by justbits:At least for me, it was cheaper than a comparable MythTV system. ??? MythTV is free. Unless you're talking about buying a new computer to run it on. I just run it on my existing desktop. I did have to buy a TV tuner card though. $45 on sale, if I remember correctly. The guide data is free, not a monthly (or lifetime) pay subscription like Tivo. | |
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| | | | Re: Crap! It also doesnt have support for anything encrypted, as there is no cable card PC devices as of yet. | |
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| | |  LilYodaFeline with squirel personality disorderPremium
join:2004-09-02
Mountains | Re: Crap! No but it takes the output of your set top box as an input...
And it pilots your STB so that it tunes the correct channel.
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| | | | | | Re: Crap! Yes... And HD Capture cards with component video input support @ 1080i 60 cost somewhere around the tune of 1000 dollars, or more. | |
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join:2004-09-02
Mountains | Re: Crap! AH ok. Didn't know series 3 was doing HD recording. However, how much do they sell the series 3 for???
HD is so overrated anyway 
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|  cdruGo ColtsPremium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
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| said by justbits:Oh wait, this article is just FUD, speculation and rumor. I don't have anything to worry about.  I wouldn't say it's FUD or a rumor, but obviously it's speculation. However, I agree with Yankee for the most part. TiVo, as a consumer hardware device, I believe will be dead for the most part by 2010. With just about every major cableco/telco/satelliteco having their own DVR hardware, many people are just opting to go with that hardware. They don't want to go through the hassles of setting up the TiVo to control the digital receiver. They want features like VoD that the DVRs provide as part of the service, but that TiVo doesn't.
Sure TiVo has a great interface. And I see them around after 2010 more as a software company licensing their interface, not as a hardware company.
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join:2006-12-29
Corona, CA
1 edit | Good Some people swear by TiVo but my experience with the ever increasing amount of banner ads and the new lame pricing policy preculding me from ever buying new HW from them I'd say good riddance. | |
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| | | Re: Good said by ColorBASIC:Some people swear by TiVo but my experience with the ever increasing amount of banner ads and the new lame pricing policy preculding me from ever buying new HW from them I'd say good riddance. I have a s3 TiVo, guess what no ads but when i read the comcast form they are stating that they are getting ads. | |
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| | | | ads You need ads to make revenue so that article is right lol. | |
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join:2005-01-03 | DirecTivo I swear by my DirecTV Tivo. No banner ads, etc. I'll keep using it as long as it works.
My only worry is that eventually, I will get me a nice HDTV, and will have to replace the Tivo with an HR-20. But the other 3 Tivos will live on!
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| | | Re: DirecTivo Avoid the DirecTV HR-20 at all costs. I speak from experience, the picture quality for HD is greatly diminished and the interface/SW is no where near as user friendly. It is just awful and currently is sitting on my work bench in the basement. | |
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join:2003-05-19
Albuquerque, NM | They'll pry my TiVo out of my cold, dead hands! Yeah yeah, your SA box or Moto box or Dishplayer is just as good - bullshit! You've never compared them.
The TiVo software is the finest piece of work I've ever seen plus they make it easy to replace failed components and expand storage, too.
I'll take my business wherever TiVo goes. Presently it's DirecTV but if Comcast goes TiVo, I'll swallow my hatred of cable companies and follow along IF it's real TiVo. DirecTV has screwed the pooch replacing TiVo with their lame DVRs.
We love how TiVo molds itself to our preferences and gives us suggestions based on what we watch. We've found quite a few programs we enjoy that we would have never seen otherwise. Season passes that morph themselves to catch our favorite programs no matter when they air or where they go is priceless.
I'm actually surprised TiVo has lasted this long, it's a rabid niche market with a marketing plan based on overestimating the general public's IQ. TiVo's days as an independent company are numbered just because people are too damn dumb and too damn cheap to try it. | |
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|  PhoenixAZGet A MacPremium
join:2004-01-04
Phoenix, AZ
kudos:1 | TiVo Software is like MacOS
Generic DVR is like Windows
Both do the job, but one does it better  | |
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join:2004-02-02
Los Angeles, CA
kudos:3
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| Re: They'll pry my TiVo out of my cold, dead hands! said by PhoenixAZ:TiVo Software is like MacOS Generic DVR is like Windows Both do the job, but one does it better To some people, that doesn't clear things up at all.  | |
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|  codeePremium
join:2001-10-01
Minneapolis, MN | said by av8ndv8:Yeah yeah, your SA box or Moto box or Dishplayer is just as good - bullshit! You've never compared them. Perhaps that poster hasn't but I certainly have, along with RePlay TV also.
For Dish, I currently have "2" VIP622 HD DVRs, For Comcast I currently have "5" 3416 HD DVRs, and I had 2 of the series 2 tivos (sold to friends) and 1 ReplayTV (sold to friend, and have a friend with a series 3 tivo that I use fairly often.
I personally think the Dishnetwork is the best DVR of the ones I've had/have. The Tivo may have a little nicer interface, but that doesn't make it the best in my opinion.
One of the problems with the Tivo/tivo series 3 is that while they work for cable tv (Digital cable for series 3) there isn't any use of the ondemand system at all. Also, if it breaks there is a delay and usually a cost in getting it fixed/replaced.
The Comcast DVRs.....Work. They record what I want, when I want it to. It records all my shows in highdef, has 2 tuners, and decent storage. If something happens to it, Comcast swaps it for free (if a tech comes there is a service fee for rolling a truck, but you can do it for free their office)
For tivo, you generally have to buy the hardware, then pay a monthly fee also. If you opt for a lifetime fee, you still have to pay to transfer the lifetime subscription to the new box you just bought. | |
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| | This is a bad thing The death of TIVO will be a bad thing for all. Though I don't use a tivo anymore (I stopped using it once I found out they were collecting my data, got a replaytv instead, much happier), I'm not happy that comcrap or another megacorp will take it over. The reason: The megacorps don't care about your fair use rights.
Will comcast let you record PPV? NO
Will comcast let you export HDTV streams to DVD? NO
Will comcast let you record video on demand? NO
Those are all fair use rights you won't have once the megacorp takes over. But I have heard tivo was a sellout to the **AA's in the recent times, I've not kept up to date on the specifics.
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|  dmeyer
join:2002-08-14
Austin, TX | Re: This is a bad thing Will any current device let you record PPV? Maybe your VCR...
Will any current device let you export HDTV to DVD? Not that I know of.
Will any current device let you record VOD? Again, maybe your VCR.
Those are beyond the scope of fair use rights. Being able to record any of those defeats the purpose of the services to begin with. | |
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join:2005-04-06
Carrollton, TX | Too expensive The single factor that will kill Tivo is the cost of buying the hardware up front. People complain about the cost of the series 3 yet it is not at all unreasonable. The problem is that the cable companies have enough spare cash to subsidize DVR prices. | |
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| | If Tivo goes, it will be because.. .. of media center PCs becoming more mainstream. I believe this is far more likely than them being overtaken by the crappy DVRs that cable companies are hawking. | |
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| Re: If Tivo goes, it will be because.. Got news for you. Cable DVRs, as inferior as they are to tivo, are winning. Just about every family member and coworker I know uses a cable DVR. Tivo needs to work software deals with them or they will become extinct. DirecTV was their last hope and now that's gone. | |
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| | | | Re: If Tivo goes, it will be because.. I have two Tivo Series 2's gathering dust, one with a Lifetime Subscription.
I have a HD tv now, and a Time Warner 2 HD tuner box for 9.99 a month.
Wow, in 70 months I could buy an HD TiVo instead.
Jeeez.
I got an email from Tivo yesterday offering to transfer my lifetime sub from the S2 to the S3 if I bought an S3 from them........for a $199 fee!!!
I hate Tivo now. Lifetime should have always meant MY lifetime, and it should be transferable to every box Tivo puts out until I die.
My upfront Lifetime Sub money helped finance the R&D on the Series 3 that they want $700 for.
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| | WhatEVER By 2010, assuming no stinking broadcast flag intervenes, I'll be able to build a box -- not even network-connected -- which can do everything today's DVRs can do, and I'll be able to do it for $400. No forced ad viewing or any of that crud either.
(I can do it today, but it costs more. But HD playback, which is what costs, is only going to get cheaper) | |
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| | Just sell the software Tivo should just sell the software so the people who build their own media pc can use the tivo software. By making people use their hardware, it is the mac / windows thing again | |
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| | | Re: Just sell the software Making people use the TiVo hardware is a quality control thing, just as it is with Mac OS on Apple hardware.
They know exactly what bugs will affect people, and can fix bugs with a software update that works on all hardware.
They can roll out features that will work exactly as they intended, because the hardware is known to them.
Once they start letting people install TiVo software on any old Linux box, their quality control goes out the window.
I'm sure they'd love to be out of the hardware business, as it is not very profitable at all for them. But they can't let the quality of their software suffer because of it, especially when their software is what makes them what they are. | |
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|  TopCat99Slightly hissed offPremium
join:2001-05-03
Pennsylvania | Re: Complete Diversity I had Dish Network for four years, and had their 40 gig DVR. It reminded me of my first VCR. Sure, it worked, but it was only as smart as it had to be. Just like the Dish DVR at the time, if your show was temporarily moved to a new time and you didn't re-program it, too bad. It also had other quirks like having to be powered off to maybe hopefully perhaps with a prayer download that new update that's supposed to fix some bug, and rather frequently missing recordings altogether with no reason why.
Anyway, back on topic: TiVo. Contrary to your experience, two of the main reasons I switched from Dish to DirecTV were TiVo and better picture quailty (Judging from the reactions I've read over DirecTV's decision to drop TiVo and go with their craptastic DVRs, I'm far from being the only one.)
That was three years ago and I'm still happy I did it.
As for your paperweight: eBay. I was (pleasantly) surprised to see such a supply, and accordingly the demand, when I decided to add yet another DTivo a couple months ago. (Since DirecTV broke their partnership with Tivo, the only way to get a real DVR for DirecTV is aftermarket )
I agree that TiVo would be better off to license the software. Remember what happened to BetaMax... | |
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| | TIVO Like Mark Twain, reports of its death are highly exagerated.
While TIVO will join forces with others, they will still produce the "Lexus" of DVRs | |
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join:2005-01-19
Los Alamitos, CA | DVR's will die The title should actually be DVR's Will Die By 2010...
On-Demand is the future and if they can stream enough stuff out of their massive libraries than they can kill the DVR market or atleast a majority of it.
Maybe TWC thought hey we don't need to compete against Sat's impressive DVR's when we can just beat them with On-Demand. I still want one of the cool DVR's Sat users get sometimes.
Why should I wait for my show to come up when I have it loaded right here in their library of hundreds of videos at my access anytime?
In fact they load entire seasons of shows up where you can run through them. Not everything is up but it even has my local news(police chases) on there from like an hour ago; so they are fast updating it.
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