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ISP Planet releases their quarterly list of the country's largest ISPs, and notes that the top five ISPs in the country now control 56.5% of the market. America Online and Earthlink, as you might expect, continue to lose subscribers by the millions, while AT&T and Comcast take first and second place, respectively, among all operators.

As we've discussed, the traditionally slow second quarter was even slower than usual for broadband growth, which Pew Internet recently attributed to a slowdown in the market. As the low-hanging fruit (dial-up converts) gets picked, ISPs are focusing more on customer retention and bundle pricing battles.

Technically, the nineteen largest cable and telephone providers in the U.S. account for 94% of the market, and that consolidation is expected to continue with the potential sale of operators such as Charter and Insight.

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MASantangelo
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Silly System

"Top" ISPs. My butt. The "top" ISPs should be a rating mix based on: Speed, Limitations on Service (caps, closed ports, etc), and Customer Service. NOT # Subscribers, because in some regions they may be the only viable choice.
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LeftOfSanity

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Felton, DE

Re: Silly System

said by MASantangelo See Profile :

"Top" ISPs. My butt. The "top" ISPs should be a rating mix based on: Speed, Limitations on Service (caps, closed ports, etc), and Customer Service. NOT # Subscribers, because in some regions they may be the only viable choice.
Well get started on that. Ill log off and wait for your reply.
openbox9

join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
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Considering the point of the article was to rate the ISP by their size (i.e. number of subscribers), I believe it was on target. What you are asking for is more than likely related to customer satisfaction...which there have been several articles ranking the ISPs in this realm as well.

inteller
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And the other problem....

Is this list can't get access to information from private companies, like Cox. Cox is at least in the top 5.

One thing to note though is the gain in CenturyTel....usually the ONLY choice for a given area because they serve the sticks. Up 21.1 percent, I think because they started allowing COs that have always been DSL capable to start serving customers....not because of some network upgrade.

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BillRoland
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Ocala, FL
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Re: And the other problem....

Cox doesn't make it hard to find, though. At the end of the 2nd quarter they had 3.5 million High Speed Internet customers per »phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zht···1032065&

tstolze
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O Fallon, MO
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said by inteller See Profile

One thing to note though is the gain in CenturyTel....usually the ONLY choice for a given area because they serve the sticks. Up 21.1 percent, I think because they started allowing COs that have always been DSL capable to start serving customers....not because of some network upgrade.

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They have moved into some larger area over the last 5-8 years. Two areas in Missouri I can think of are just west of St. Louis(St. Charles County) and the Columbia area. I came across a report that stated around 80% of customers are capable of receiving DSL. I give them props for this, beings they are mostly a "rural" carrier. They have also rolled out ADSL2+ providing copper customers with "up to 10" down. New subdivisions in Missouri are getting fiber to the home with a 15 down tier available.
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Rick
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Umm..somebody better tell whomever wrote that list that

SBC is now AT&T. lol. what isp planet have they been living on?

As for SBC..AT&T..Grandma bell..whatever you want to call them..I can't help but to think it's a pretty telling sign that out of their 17.3 Million broadband subs..only 100,000k are uverse subs and it's taken them a YEAR to get to even that number.

Phew..their new CEO better start looking for a new line of work me thinks.

Or, better yet..do as RR..err..Comcast Rick suggests...
and announce that Uverse..is DEAD..and AT&T FTTH..is ALIVE!

Let's do it today AT&T..OK?
openbox9

join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
·AT&T Southeast

Re: Umm..somebody better tell whomever wrote that list that

What does the breakdown of what service customers are using have to do with rankings based on the total number of customers served? Beyond the fact that you will pick an argument about Uverse any chance you get. You aren't an AT&T customers so why do you care so much?

en102
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Re: Umm..somebody better tell whomever wrote that list that

said by openbox9 See Profile :

Beyond the fact that you will pick an argument about Uverse any chance you get. You aren't an AT&T customers so why do you care so much?
I'm not sure either. I'll be willing to give it a shot once my DirecTv and DSL-Extreme DSL contract is up, assuming that the price is better for me.
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openbox9

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Alexandria, VA

Re: Umm..somebody better tell whomever wrote that list that

I'm willing to give it a shot when they start deploying in Bellsouth regions.
Sammer

join:2005-12-22
Pittsburgh, PA
Uverse won't die completely. Even when AT&T moves to FTTH (what year?) there will still be buildings like some MDUs where fiber won't reach every unit.

FicmanS
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AOL MUST be happy...

About that number, holy smokes that's a huge number to drop in a quarter...

Rick
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Re: AOL MUST be happy...

Earthlinks numbers are shrinking almost just as fast.

But still, it's quite amazing how long AOL has held on to these people.
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LiamJunket
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Ocean City, NJ
·Comcast

Re: AOL MUST be happy...

said by Rick See Profile :

Earthlinks numbers are shrinking almost just as fast.

But still, it's quite amazing how long AOL has held on to these people.
Of the 3 listed that are losing customers instead of growing, they are all primarily dial-up companies. So the march towards broadband continues unabated.
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AZ_OGM

join:2007-01-12
Phoenix, AZ

You know I kinda miss the AOHell CDs, they made for good coasters for the coffee table.
The main reason people are leaving AOL and Earthlink faster than rats fleeing a sinking ship is if available, people are opting for more affordable "lite" connections from their telco or cable co.

en102
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Yup all the dialup Internet services are bleeding customers
AOL, Earthlink, UnitedOnline (Netzero).

I'm actually amazed that even with 6Mbps (Max sync, not throughput and not available in MANY places), AT&T is still adding DSL lines, and at a higher rate than Comcast.

I'm sure that it won't last too long, as they bleed POTS customers, they have to offer naked DSL.

Were you out here in California this morning, Comcast Rick?
Someone was either very drunk, or despised AT&T.
A light pole, fire hydrant, AT&T cross connect and Uverse VRAD were all run down.
Then again.. it could have been some of those copper theives attempting to get some old copper.

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Re: AOL MUST be happy...

said by en102 See Profile :

I'm actually amazed that even with 6Mbps (Max sync, not throughput and not available in MANY places), AT&T is still adding DSL lines, and at a higher rate than Comcast.
Consider the speeds is lower but so is the price, and they don't care how much traffic you use 24/7. I think AT&T DSL users can actually use more bandwidth per month than cable users because they will cap or throttle heavy users.
AMDonUT2004

join:2006-06-12
Bedford, VA

dial-up

will seem a bit faster and dsl will seem slower when the massive groups of people getting on dsl, but on dial-up you got the ever present 53 Kb speed limit but it'll be less crowded, i'm on dial-up here with netzero and i'm just waiting for some forum of broadband to be available here

StickToTheFacts

@cox.net

Average subscribers ?

Why the hell is there an "Average" row on the chart posted with the story ? In terms of the data being presented, the "average" is COMPLETELY meaningless.

Man I hate statistics abuse...

capecoddah

join:2005-03-18
Yarmouth Port, MA

My First ISP...

Was a few nice guys that answered their own phones. I would call and get help. I would stop by with a few muffins as thanks. Long story short, they sold and ended up Earthlink. Now I use Verizon and owe a beer to some guy in Mexico City for his help.
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