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Mountain View an evolving testbed as nodes are added
(old news - 05:42PM Wednesday Nov 15 2006)
tags: coverage · wireless · hardware · municipal
A few weeks ago, Mountain View, California, Google-Fi customers started complaining about network performance and spotty coverage. The network in question consists of 380 Tropos Wi-Fi nodes placed on utility poles around the city, offering users downstream speeds up to 1Mbps (roughly) and upstream speeds ranging from 144kbps to 986kbps.

Google technicians insisted the coverage issues would be resolved as the project moved forward. "We are in the process of installing additional nodes, which will improve our coverage and reliability across the network," a Google technician noted. "We have also been visiting individual apartment complexes to discuss the possibility of installing a node on their premises."

MuniWireless penned a piece suggesting that the spotty coverage was the result of a flaw in the architecture being used. Tropos has responded, as you'd expect, defending their design decisions and hardware:
"As with any wireless networking technology, not everyone is going to have perfect coverage/throughput from day one and it’s not always going to be obvious to the end user why this is the case. Mountain View residents and visitors should be assured that we are continuing to improve coverage and connectivity for all users.

While any wireless network will have a degree of challenge, the overall degree and intensity of usage on our networks is very encouraging for our industry. Our 20% to 25% household penetration rates, growing usage and 45% to 95% of users who access our networks every day of the week are evidence that a majority of our users are pleased by the performance and reliability"
If you haven't been following along at home, Google-Fi is not going to become a national service. Google offers free Wi-Fi in Mountain View because their new headquarters is there. They're primarily interested in testing localized services and Wi-Fi ad delivery for future citywide Wi-Fi partnerships.

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Seaboogers

join:2004-11-01
Sarasota, FL

Is this free for customers?

Is this a free service for people...or do they have to pay a monthly fee?

If it's free...these complainers need to just shut up about it!!!

If they are paying for it...then I understand the complaints.

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Re: Is this free for customers?

said by Seaboogers See Profile :

If it's free...these complainers need to just shut up about it!!!
A free service that doesn't work right is worth what you pay for it - NOTHING. And last I looked complaining was an American birthright.
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battleop

join:2005-09-28
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Re: Is this free for customers?

They should see credits on their next bill.

Topmounter
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join:2001-02-20
Evergreen, CO

Re: Is this free for customers?

This is like my teacher complaining that the reconstituted water in my science project still tasted like urine.

I mean come on... it's a science project AND it's free so STFU.

Oxygen
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Nesconset, NY

Re: Is this free for customers?

Hey you guys would like this thread:

»Google-Fi Sighting?

I'm like Edward freakin' Scissor Hands over here!

ifarrell

join:2000-08-10
Willow Spring, NC
It's all in the wording.
Maybe if the article stated "users giving feedback on the somewhat spotty coverage" it wouldn't read so bad.

x30n_
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If I had free internet, I wouldnt complain.

WAAAAAAA my free google internet isn't working.. WAAAAAAA Google sucks WAAAAAAAA

OMFG, all those customers should dial 1-800-BOO-FUKNHOO and talk to some waterhead on the other side about it.
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Re: If I had free internet, I wouldnt complain.

said by x30n_ See Profile :

talk to some waterhead on the other side about it.
zOMG, racism!
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FiL
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join:2005-08-16
Silver Spring, MD

Re: If I had free internet, I wouldnt complain.

if Goog cant gimme free shit, they eff'ing SUCK ASS!

Nuff said.

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laizure

join:2006-08-13
Mountain View, CA

I have spotty coverage....

The service is free. I am in contact with Google and they have said they will add a node closer to my house. It seems that the node that is 500+ feet away from me does not give constant and consistent connection.
EnzoM3

join:2005-10-28
Raleigh, NC

Re: I have spotty coverage....

500ft is a stretch for a Tropos if you're indoor. Line of sight is better.

I maintain an eight Tropos network, very small comparing to Google or any other muni. Fortunately I don't own it, just paid for mtc. I can't see how the owner make money based on number of problems.
patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY

wifi sucks

Wifi was NEVER ment to be a MAN/WAN technology. Its too easily corrupted, and doesnt have enough bandwidth. It was created with the RF profile inside someone's house/room, not meaning to be strong enough to reach outside the building and enter into signal competition with other houses. Usually wifi nodes dont communicate with each other to make sure they dont interfere, plus think about all the other 2.4 ghz users. This isnt a cellular or wimax network, wifi shouldnt be used as one. The concept of relaying data from node to node to wired node is retarded for anything other than static web pages and email. Each node must have a wired connection, and preferably talk to each other on signal power and interference and handoffs, otherwise each node is only a range extender and no additional bandwidth is provided.

I hope to see these muni wifi nodes replaced with licensed spectrum or unlicensed but digital traffic-only spectrum base stations/nodes/etc.

mesmerMAN

join:2006-01-18
Miami, FL

Re: wifi sucks

you got the cash for it?
patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY

Re: wifi sucks

said by mesmerMAN See Profile :

you got the cash for it?
ALL these "mesh" products arent standard off the shelf, either its custom PCBs, cases, or just labels. Why doesnt the govt allocate a unlicensed only to computer lan/tcpip/internet traffic, and make sure there is 1 standard and ALL the nodes even on diff networks/SSIDs communicate to make sure they dont conflict/radiation levels, channel reservation, etc.
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