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Anon94741
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Comcast II is operational: Philly's tallest bldg employee move-in

»billypenn.com/2018/07/30 ··· oved-in/

The tallest building in Philly is officially open for business.

Four years after construction was first announced on the Comcast Technology Center at 18th and Arch, employees are moving in.

The first round of people moved into the building on Monday morning, a source close to Comcast confirmed to Billy Penn, and even more employees will continue to relocate there gradually for the next several months.

Comcast and Philly happy together.
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Cord Cutting Accelerates Faster Than Expected, As Cable Still Refuses To Com

The fall of cable is is so entertaining to watch.
They keep insisting there is no problem that they don't need to change as their empire falls around them.

Sad part of it is it looks like the networks that are in large part responsible for the high costs of cable may yet survive this mess. Although likely still smaller than before.

As it is it seems most that diversified into offering internet are making up the lower profits on video by subsidising it with higher internet rates.

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Re: Cord Cutting Accelerates Faster Than Expected, As Cable Still Refuses To Com

One downside of the cord-cutting trend is the rise of content provider specific streaming services. Where you used to be able to watch everything with a cable subscription, you'll soon need to subscribe to dozens of individual services (CBS All Access, Warner / DC, Disney, etc.)
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Re: Cord Cutting Accelerates Faster Than Expected, As Cable Still Refuses To Com

Not really.
That's mainly if you just want to watch video on demand from those networks.

If you were happy with cable as before there are many online cable substitutes like psvue or sling TV that allow you to watch multiple networks

If you want to stream on demand videos like you used to sort of be able to do with netflix yeah it's getting pretty bad.
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My guess is that movies will follow the same route. You will only be able to see a movie from its parent studio's streaming service.

tc1uscg
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Re: Cord Cutting Accelerates Faster Than Expected, As Cable Still Refuses To Com

Not sure why they haven't just moved to that medium and cut out the movie theaters? Is the that the next tree to fall?
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Re: Cord Cutting Accelerates Faster Than Expected, As Cable Still Refuses To Com

I THINK the theatres are mostly digital now too.

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Re: Cord Cutting Accelerates Faster Than Expected, As Cable Still Refuses To Com

My point was, the home viewer can watch JUST RELEASED movies without using a VPN and Terrarium TV (android app) to do so. If the industry stared stream to the home, at a cost, AMC 30's would go the way of Blockbuster. Well, maybe the 2 and 3rd run movie houses that charge a couple bucks to see a movie that's been out for months might survive, but 1st run houses would be up for lease.

Anon444d7
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Indie theaters exist largely from anti trust concerns that swirled around almost a hundred years ago. Similar logic prevents Honda and Toyota from selling Accords and Camarys direct to consumers on their websites rather than being forced to purchase them new through slimy local dealers.

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said by tc1uscg:

Not sure why they haven't just moved to that medium and cut out the movie theaters? Is the that the next tree to fall?

I, for one, enjoy watching films in theatres. I hope they don't take that away.
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Re: Cord Cutting Accelerates Faster Than Expected, As Cable Still Refuses To Com

I don't think theaters would go away, I think there would be less off them but still a large demand to watch movies on a really friggin large screen with a sound system that rattles neighboring theaters.

I do agree that they need to make it available to stream at the same time it goes to theaters if they want to catch all possible sales.

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Re: Cord Cutting Accelerates Faster Than Expected, As Cable Still Refuses To Com

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I do agree that they need to make it available to stream at the same time it goes to theaters if they want to catch all possible sales.

For, for us country folk.

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The other part is no one is paying attention to Facilities and Bandwidth, both needed to Stream efficiently. I say this can only be achieved with Fiber!
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Re: Cord Cutting Accelerates Faster Than Expected, As Cable Still Refuses To Com

It will work fine over our current system. Peering will increase. You can stream Netflix just fine on a 6meg connection. It uses more download than up and that’s all that matters across the board.

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Re: Cord Cutting Accelerates Faster Than Expected, As Cable Still Refuses To Com

said by xpertiseit:

It will work fine over our current system. Peering will increase. You can stream Netflix just fine on a 6meg connection. It uses more download than up and that’s all that matters across the board.

Yep. Try streaming Netflix on two devices while also surfing the internet. Good luck on 6mbps. We can barely do it on 5mbps.

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It will work fine over our current system. Peering will increase. You can stream Netflix just fine on a 6meg connection. It uses more download than up and that’s all that matters across the board.

See this is what I mean, people really don't have a clue. With 6Mbps, maybe one Stream in SD, and nobody else in your house doing anything on your Internet connection. You might not experience Buffering in SD if you are Hard Wired, but you'll get Degradation in your Video Quality and forget about HD or 4K!
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Re: Cord Cutting Accelerates Faster Than Expected, As Cable Still Refuses To Com

You can stream HD Netflix fine with 6Mbps. However things can get problematic if you have multiple people online.

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See this is what I mean, people really don't have a clue. With 6Mbps, maybe one Stream in SD, and nobody else in your house doing anything on your Internet connection.

HD netflix, most Roku apps, and YT all worked fine on 6M dsl for me.
Maybe do a little research before insulting people.
»help.netflix.com/en/node/306
»support.google.com/youtu ··· 02?hl=en
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And I do have a clue. But you don’t need fiber to run a gig connection. Only if people had a clue

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I can stream SD on one device easily, while another device runs on a 3M connection. I'm sure that one HD stream and another device will run fine on a 6M connection.

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The fall of cable is is so entertaining to watch.

Yeah, but there's more then one channel to watch here. As cableco's raise stand-alone broadband and streaming services are starting to be fly-by-nite (here today, gone tomorrow) but the ones who got the proverbial foot in the door are jacking up prices, yeah, it's getting pretty entertaining and is going to get even better I'm sure.

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said by sims:

The fall of cable is is so entertaining to watch.
They keep insisting there is no problem that they don't need to change as their empire falls around them.

Are they supposed to price their product below cost? If the content owners want more money what are they supposed to do?
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Re: Cord Cutting Accelerates Faster Than Expected, As Cable Still Refuses To Com

It's an untenable position for them to be in. The networks want too much and aren't willing to part out their offerings.

The only options the cable company has is increase rates to cover the new cost of service which will make them lose customers or tell the network to shove their new pricing, losing the network and will likely also cause them to lose customers.

Option A: Your service costs too much i'm leaving!
Option B: Your service doesn't have nickelodeon anymore i'm leaving!

There are no winning moves for them.

As it is it's in a spiral right now because people are leaving faster but the networks don't want to make less money so they are demanding more per customer.

When Suddenlink and (iirc) Vyve dropped viacom a few years ago and replaced it with another network they said that if they had accepted the rate increases they wanted they would have had to more than double their service rates.

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There are no winning moves for them.

This just means they have to compete. One way or the others. Many people are getting sick of all the bullshit. With the rise of VPN's the answer for many is becoming clear.
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Re: Cord Cutting Accelerates Faster Than Expected, As Cable Still Refuses To Com

I don't think cable can compete in its current form they aren't really in control of their costs.

The newer services like netflix are even running into the same problems but they care less about them.
Netflix's is gradually losing content as everyone builds their own streaming network in search of getting the whole pie for themselves, their solution is to rely more and more on their own content produced in house.

Eventually netflix may end up like hbo with just exclusively their own stuff.

Then at this point you no longer have a go between, between the customer and the networks, the networks now sell directly to the customers.

And hopefully that means the networks can directly tell when they are charging too much directly, it's different negotiationg with a few large businesses than a few million individuals. Especially when it's so easy to cancel and sign up.

If they demand 3x more from one cable and they quit paying that's ok there's a bunch more they can just wait it out till they get desperate.

But if they tell 10 million people hey GOOD NEWS EVERYONE! We're upgrading your bills from $10 to $40 well now it wouldn't be that surprising if they had a several million cancel in the next couple months or even that day.

Still I don't like it as even small services seem to think they are entitled to the whole pie hey we're some three letter tv network pay us $10/mo for this content you might have heard of when really it was worth $2/mo at most as part of another offering.

VRV does some of this bundling several options together for less.

VPNs aren't new people have just started using them for other things.

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Verizon VPN

There's one way to get those super cookies into your web requests, whether you are using the Verizon Wireless network or not
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I wouldn't put it past them.
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The little last-mile that could.

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Satellites are a reasonable way to achieve internet access where previously there was none. But the technology has not been fast, reliable, or responsive enough to compete with modern fiber or cable-based internet. That may change with efforts from the likes of SpaceX.
Which is why I'm unable to post to this forum, and till LEO comes along you'll be unable to read my fine posts.