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ThrowDemsOut
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RE:Napster launches world's biggest online music store

This should put an end to the constantly claimed excuse that the only reason people steal music online is that they can't pay to get DRM free music legitimately. Well, now 6 million MP3s will be available for download without DRM constraints. What will be the new excuse?
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digitalfreak
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Re: RE:Napster launches world's biggest online music store

I think you post just to try and get people to read your blog.
Anomaly95

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Re: RE:Napster launches world's biggest online music store

Since you mentioned it, I checked his blog and news page out.

Meh. Yet another page that has news that I've already read and political viewpoints that I've already seen.

As far as I'm concerned, it's just more useless crap that's taking up room on the internets.

MarkH
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At a guess, the price.

They are DRM free, but if you want to buy the equivalent of a full CD, you are still paying as much as if you went out and bought the actual disc.

You know that is not going to go across well with people. Why should they pay the same prices for a download as they would pay for a physical product that they can make their own backups of?

Especially if the artist is still only getting a pittance compared to everybody else in the chain.

It's a step in the right direction offering DRM free downloads, but I doubt it is enough to persuade most of the people who currently download music for free to start paying.

A big part of the problem seems to be that the studios and the trade associations want to charge more for their product than people are willing to pay.

Eventually something is going to give, and I bet it won't be the nasty sword wielding, peg legged, eye patch wearing pirates people who infringe copyright who end up changing their ways the most.

The studios and trade associations need to find a price level that people are comfortable with.

All because their business models have worked well for them in the past, it doesn't mean that they can continue to expect those business models to carry on working for them.

Times change, people and their expectations change, technology changes. Maybe it's time that this was realised by the many companies involved.

There will always be some people who will never pay regardless, but this has been the case for years, remember that home taping was going to kill off music all those years ago. However, the number of people who don't pay can be affected by a change in price and delivery methods etc.

If they can deliver a product that people perceive as value for money, then most people will probably buy rather than trying to get it for free. However, the way the world economy is gradually slowing down, I don't see how they can expect to have continued growth, or even to maintain their current level of sales unless they are willing to adapt to what the consumers want.
Anomaly95

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Re: RE:Napster launches world's biggest online music store

I absolutely agree. If there was a way to easily buy DRM-free music online at a decent price, whose profits went directly to the artist (no RIAA overhead), I would be all over it.

BF69
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Re: RE:Napster launches world's biggest online music store

said by Anomaly95:

I absolutely agree. If there was a way to easily buy DRM-free music online at a decent price, whose profits went directly to the artist (no RIAA overhead), I would be all over it.
Please the whole "I only steal music because I'm supporting the rights of the artists" is bull crap.
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For artists who are not signed to any label or are members of the RIAA, they actually DO make most of the money...

There are several bands who release their own music directly to the online stores and get all profits directly.

Find them, and you can do exactly that. Buy their tunes, they make the money. It really is that simple...

BF69
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said by MarkH:

At a guess, the price.

They are DRM free, but if you want to buy the equivalent of a full CD, you are still paying as much as if you went out and bought the actual disc.
Not really. Even at 99¢ a song a 10 songs would be $9.99 the same CD would be $15 or more. Besdies people's biggest complaint is that CDs only have maybe 3 good songs on them. So ok you can now buy those 3 songs for $3 without having to buy the other crappy songs.

Sure maybe they should ower the price some. Especially for older music. However even if they sold songs for 19¢ people would still find excuses to steal music because they are that cheap.

MarkH
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Re: RE:Napster launches world's biggest online music store

Well I was actually going by the price of the songs quoted in the article

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Moving "from under the DRM cloud," Napster is selling tunes for a still-not-cheap-enough 79p a pop.....
and considering the average albums in my collection have at least 10 tracks, that works out to be at least £7.90 which would mean a whopping 9p per album saved on average based on what I can buy CD's for here in the UK if I bought modern music.

Personally I don't don't buy modern music in general, but nor do I download modern music, even at a price point of 0p most of it's still worthless imo.

Most of the albums in my collection have 7 or more good tracks on them because I only buy what I actually like.

Do I download music? You're damn right I do, if the studios won't reissue, but mostly I buy second hand discs, again because the studios deem old stuff to be unworthy of reissue most times.

If the studios and the associations actually listened to their customers instead of ignoring and marginalising them, they would see better results imo.

I agree that you will always get people who won't pay no matter what, a point I referenced in my original post, but the studios and the associations have asked for a lot of the problems they now face.
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Mass Website Hacks solution

Concerning the "mass website hacks here to stay" article, there is a way for stopping this exploit with the use of some (open source) software - »www.aqtronix.com/?PageID=99

I posted in the security forum about this awhile ago because it happened to me.

If anyone would like help configuring this software such that it doesn't mess up your site/webapps, let me know. Its default configuration is almost too strict...

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