UK Lords Pass 'Digital Economy' Bill Welcome to your new antipiracy content nanny state According to the BBC, the UK Lords have passed largely entertainment-industry-written "Digital Economy Bill," which has seen heated global debate over its plan to push ISPs to suspend the broadband accounts of copyright violators. Like many other such bills, the plan is being pushed through the UK legislative process without a lot of public input into the potential damage the bill could cause. In addition to opponents complaining of the bills "draconian" copyright policies, Wi-Fi hotspot owners are concerned that the bill's language holds them liable for copyright violations. One positive? The Telegraph notes that an entertainment-industry push to include language that would make it possible to modify copyright law without consulting Parliament was pulled from the bill.
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kudos:3 | Re: hmmmm.. I think the question isn't if we're not the only but if there is one that isn't | |
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| | EU Law Doesn't this bill basically violate European Union laws? | |
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Gainesville, GA | Re: EU Law said by PapaMidnight:Doesn't this bill basically violate European Union laws? It would matter, if the UK was part of europe.
It would also matter, if anybody gave a flying hoot about the house of the lords. | |
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| Re: EU Law said by Augustus III:said by PapaMidnight:Doesn't this bill basically violate European Union laws? It would matter, if the UK was part of europe. So you're saying it matters?
It would also matter, if anybody gave a flying hoot about the house of the lords.
So, now you're saying it doesn't matter...
Make up your mind!  | |
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Gainesville, GA | Re: EU Law said by Oinktastic:said by Augustus III:said by PapaMidnight:Doesn't this bill basically violate European Union laws? It would matter, if the UK was part of europe. So you're saying it matters? It would also matter, if anybody gave a flying hoot about the house of the lords.
So, now you're saying it doesn't matter... Make up your mind! Huh wat? It is a well known fact that england has nothing to do with the eu, neither politically nor territorially. they are as such essentially a charter member.
My mind is made, you need to recheck the facts though. | |
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| Re: EU Law said by Augustus III:Huh wat? It is a well known fact that england has nothing to do with the eu, neither politically nor territorially. they are as such essentially a charter member. My mind is made, you need to recheck the facts though. You must have British heritage. It's hard to imagine anyone else getting in such a tizzy over my little comment.
However, the FACT is that they (The UK) are one of the founding members of the EU, whether or not they are enthusiastic about their membership these days. I am aware of the consensus in the UK is that they'd like to steer clear of that role, however.
But hey, I'm just a random internet poster who likes to see technology move forward. I'm no politician. | |
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Calgary, AB | NZBs FTW! And this is why everyone should move to a Usenet provider with 256 bit SSL encryption | |
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| said by bengizmo:And this is why everyone should move to a Usenet provider with 256 bit SSL encryption I did that a few years when it looked like the Canadian government was going to make some pretty awful copyright reform.. luckily for Canadians, we've had minority governments for a number of years.. everytime copyright reform law is introduced, the government falls, and it starts all over again.
I'm hoping we remain lucky and minority governments allow us to wait out this fad of awful copyright reform.
I think one of the last drafts was worse than the DMCA. And like the DMCA, there was a severe lack of detail regarding enforcement (ie would it be the rcmp or corporations that would do it.. i'm gonna guess corporations).. what would the burden of proof be, and what would be the dispute process.
I can understand the need to protect copyrights.. but basing in on corporation findings. Any laws should be enforce by an independant agency, and should have a dispute process. Everyone has the right to a fair trial right? | |
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| Encryption I imagine this will further push savvy users to more robust encryption systems, if using P2P or other methods of data transportation.
Once these systems are in place, the sheeple will get wind of it, & the digital arms race, against those who monitor & those who would rather not be monitored, will continue.
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kudos:3 | Re: Encryption Honestly, I think people will go back to face-to-face trading... That means a friend will copy a friend's music, dvd, etc. and pass it on to another friend. Lather, rinse, and repeat. The industry will lose, and the 'law' will fail to meet its objective.
People will find a way to circumvent this.
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| | | | | Re: Encryption said by Its a Secret:Honestly, I think people will go back to face-to-face trading... That means a friend will copy a friend's music, dvd, etc. and pass it on to another friend. Lather, rinse, and repeat. The industry will lose, and the 'law' will fail to meet its objective. People will find a way to circumvent this. and until they make it illegal for wireless open spots and trading that way....then we too will just trade hand to hand.
AND then the encryption is people.
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