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When at first you don't succeed...
(old news - 08:14AM Saturday Nov 22 2008)
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The entertainment industry has been working very hard on a global scale to force ISPs to adopt three strikes policies. In some instances, ISPs do this voluntarily (like Cox), while in other instances, the industry has convinced governments to force ISPs to enact such rules. Efforts in Europe to do this recently stalled, the EU Parliament recently deciding that such laws would interfere with individual privacy and civil rights. Given that they couldn't get the law passed honestly, the entertainment industry is now trying to get the law passed covertly through the back door via a suite of new "telco reform" laws.

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bitbright

@verizon.net

Not a smart move

This will be a fascist move because it will impact performance for legal users of their connections. Robbing them of speeds as each packet is being tested.
KAtMAi6

join:2002-12-19

Re: Not a smart move

not only that, since they are doing it in such shady ways they are only going to drive people into not supporting them. What was once an effort to minimize piracy is now backfiring on them. If you listen to the pirates now days, alot of them say they stopped buying the intellectual property in spite of the law suits. All this does is make these people look money hungry and vindictive. No one likes people like that.
KAtMAi6

join:2002-12-19

Re: Not a smart move

One more point too is that some pirates also say its driven out of their greed. I read an article a while back about a person downloading movies. They said in the interview they do it cause they are tired of the greed and its more affordable to pay 25 bucks a month for the internet connection then it is to pay 25 bucks a DVD. I think something could be done more so then this vindictive attitude. I guess that is what happens though when you are addicted to money and then it starts being taken away.
cornelius785

join:2006-10-26
Worcester, MA

there is only one thing that will come out of this...

all the pirating will go further underground and encryption use will increase. i'd like to see the hardware that can crack AES-256 in real time.

fighting piraters is like a giant game of cat and mouse, except there are thousands of mice per a cat and not all mice go down easy. not all the mice are stupid either and will occasionally use backup from others to gain another advantage over the cats.

podstolom

@kanren.net

UK Adoption of entertainment industry demands

"...industry has convinced governments..."
"...industry is now trying to get the law passed covertly.."

This is pure corporatist fascism at it's worst. The corrupt merger of state and corporate power to serve and enforce the interests of the private sector at the expense of the common good. This is what America shamelessly engages in with it's financial and auto industry bailouts, RIAA/MPAA lawsuits and so on, but it is of great concern to me when it tries to undermine, pollute and corrupt European democratic socialism as well.

NOCMan
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Re: UK Adoption of entertainment industry demands

Quite obviously you know nothing about that arguement. The RIAA/MPAA has no legal jurisdiction in other countries. Those countries have similar bodies conducting this activity.

Before you point at us, why not look at those who are doing the same crap in your own back yard.

Wish what you want on other countries, but American consumerism accounts for a large chunk of global GDP. If we go down, you're going with us.
Kearnstd
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if other countries had a legal system that was point, click, sue. im sure their versions of the RIAA/MPAA would be just as evil as ours.
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zod5000

join:2003-10-21
Edmonton, AB

Isn't everything going to end up encrypted?

If they keep pushing for laws like this (which i believe are pretty hard to implement in the first place). Isn't everything going to turn to encryption? I guess they really will transform the internet.
KAtMAi6

join:2002-12-19

Re: Isn't everything going to end up encrypted?

These laws are easier to pass then you think. For example here in America they have figured out they title the law this and then attach a supplimental bill in behind it called that. This minimizes their opposition when the American public doesnt know about it.

In Europe they just dont care what their public thinks about it at all. They pass what they want and when they want. The governments are much more corrupt today as they were even 5 years ago and its noticable. Truth is all these facist and freedom stealing laws will eventually lead to all out war in the world. People doesnt like to be held captive for very long.
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Re: Isn't everything going to end up encrypted?

said by KAtMAi6 See Profile :

These laws are easier to pass then you think. For example here in America they have figured out they title the law this and then attach a supplimental bill in behind it called that. This minimizes their opposition when the American public doesnt know about it.

In Europe they just dont care what their public thinks about it at all. They pass what they want and when they want. The governments are much more corrupt today as they were even 5 years ago and its noticable. Truth is all these facist and freedom stealing laws will eventually lead to all out war in the world. People doesnt like to be held captive for very long.
I wasn't really talking about the merits of the law, but the futility. They'res been piracy since casette/vhs tapes/floppy disks. They've never been able to stop piracy in the 30 years those technologies have been around, why do they think they can do it now? If they start snooping around the internet, all the traffic is going to go encrypted, and they won't be able to monitor anything anymore, because all packets will be encrypted. They'd probably lose all ability to track anything on the internet.

Matt
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Good

We should pass it here too. There has to be an impartial 3rd party review of the evidence though, not just the RIAA/MPAA's assertion that infringement has occurred.
chronoss2009

join:2008-09-23
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get over it already

they are going to do it.
Let them
then spread the word that we wont use the net or buy there products either.

Ya lets have mankind go back to the stone age.

when isps go out a business and the economy goes even worse because now you have whats left of your non outsourceable IT people out of work. YA then no one will goto collage or unniversity for ANY IT jobs, and in ten years hte countries infrastructure for communications will be a complete mess.

Grab it now, grab it all , grab it greedy.
Then when they come and shut you off. TOSS AN EGG

Go ahead and whine, phone and email, htey dont care.
They got paid already and f#%k you already.
This is there planet , did you really think they'd let you enjoy your self?

/end.eggorist rant

ARGONAUT
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Better Solution

'3 strikes' and you eat Haggis!

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EU Strikes down French Three Strikes Law

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EU culture ministers yesterday (20 November) rejected French proposals to curb online piracy through compulsory measures against free downloading, instead agreeing to promote legal offers of music or films on the Internet.

»opendotdotdot.blogspot.com/2008/···own.html

This does not bode well for any back door attempt by the MAFIAA at getting such laws passed. It is likely now that any telco reform law containing this will be swiftly shot down.
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