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UN 'Internet Takeover' About Subsidizing Phone Companies
Glorified Version of Ed Whitacre and AT&T's 'Troll Toll' Proposals
by Krisnatharok 04:34PM Thursday Jun 21 2012
Fears of a UN-managed Internet have again reached a fevered pitch, some of the worries based on little more than hot air and scare mongering from partisans, and some it based on actual reality. Countries do want a less U.S.-centric governance system than ICANN -- but time and time again the International Telecommunications Union (the part of the UN supposedly supposedly tasked with this menacing but incorporeal power grab) has stated they don't want to run the Internet.

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What do they want? In a speech this week the ITU made it clear what they want to act as a plaything for international phone company lobbyists.

In a speech this week at ITU headquarters in Geneva, ITU Secretary General Hamadoun Touré again repeated the ITU does not want to run the Internet, but they do want to "update regulations" that will help counter an "infrastructure investment shortfall." In short, international phone companies, who've long wanted content companies to pay troll tolls to fund network expansion, have planted a malicious bug in the ITU's ear and appear to have convinced them that their unsound logic (that content companies must pay an extra toll for no reason) must now be a matter of international policy.

As such, Ars Technica's Cyrus Farivar correctly deduces that the ITU's motivation to shift rules around appears focused on simply making phone companies more money. We've seen similar rhetoric used for the repeatedly-debunked Exaflood, or when AT&T CEO Ed Whitace set off a net neutrality firestorm by insisting content companies shouldn't be allowed to "ride his pipes for free."

The rhetoric Touré uses sounds very familiar to the nonsense used by phone industry executives who've tried to con regulators into protectionist laws or new subsidies using a bogus "capacity crisis." The ITU appears to be drawing vague and unsubstantiated parallels between obnoxious and unnecessary new transit tolls (where a levy is imposed on a content company) and backbone operator interconnection agreements. From the ITU:
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As the industry has pointed out, data volumes are increasing much faster than the infrastructure needed to carry it, and there is currently a risk of an infrastructure investment shortfall. The revised [International Telecommunications Regulations, to be discussed at the December WCIT meeting in Dubai] should therefore help to encourage broadband roll-out and investment. They should emphasize the importance of liberalization and privatization, and should recognize the role of the private sector and market-based solutions. At the same time as data volumes are increasing, unit prices are declining, so total revenues for telecommunications operators are potentially at risk. As a result, some have said that there is a need to address the current disconnect between sources of revenue and sources of costs, and to decide upon the most appropriate way to do so."
It's just another version of the "Exaflood," or the telecom lobbyist argument that phone companies should be subsidized or less regulated lest the Internet implode. The most "appropriate way" to shore up this "investment shortfall" would then of course be for ISPs to charge content companies a "troll toll" to run their content over carrier networks for absolutely no sane reason. This of is precisely the kind of absurd phone executive thinking than triggered the net neutrality debate -- it has now simply moved from the yes-men infected meeting rooms of U.S. phone companies, into the corridors of the United Nations.

In other words, let international phone companies and the ITU impose new completely unnecessary transit tolls on content traffic or the Exaflood will eat your children.

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zipjay

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this is all i have to say...

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ihq9W9RlNOE

especially near the end of the video this pertains to
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FFH
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3rd world telcos want to tax US content companies

This is nothing but a 3rd world grab of US content company money to subsidize their failing 3rd world telcos that have lost all their revenue due to apps like Skype.
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Re: 3rd world telcos want to tax US content companies

said by FFH:

This is nothing but a 3rd world grab of US content company money to subsidize their failing 3rd world telcos that have lost all their revenue due to apps like Skype.

Who exactly constitutes the 3rd world? Name a few countries... and do you know who founded skype?

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Re: 3rd world telcos want to tax US content companies

Logic and fact don't apply when the purpose is to derail the subject of the conversation.
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said by etaadmin:

»www.nytimes.com/2012/06/11/techn···nted=all

What is really at stake, some analysts say, is money.

Robert M. McDowell, a member of the Federal Communications Commission, told a U.S. House committee last month that he was aware of treaty proposals that could enable foreign telecommunications companies to levy fees on Google, Facebook, Netflix and other U.S. Internet companies that are heavy users of bandwidth. This would be “devastating to global economic activity,” he said.

The European Telecommunications Network Operators’ Association, a lobbying group based in Brussels, has called for the treaty to permit the management of telecommunications traffic.

The treaty “should acknowledge the challenges of the new Internet economy and the principles that fair compensation is received for carried traffic and operators’ revenues should not be disconnected from the investment needs caused by rapid Internet traffic growth,” the operators’ association said in a submission to the I.T.U.

Thus the real conflict is not over governance of the Internet, some analysts say, but over the division of the spoils, with international telecommunications operators trying to use the I.T.U. to extract revenue from American Internet companies.

When outrageous per minute charges for voice calls became moot due to VOIP and apps like Skype, these gov't controlled monopolies lost a ton of revenue. They want to get all that money back in new rules mandated by the ITU.

So this isn't about net neutrality, or UN takeover of the internet. It is all about the grab for money by the gov't controlled telcos who saw all their revenue disappear.
»oinsurgente.org/2012/06/20/the-u···er-grab/

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Re: 3rd world telcos want to tax US content companies

You can check out these outrageous proposals by the 3rd world here:
»wcitleaks.org/
»jerrybrito.org/post/24541436396/···eaks-org

Especially check out the tariff issues:
»files.wcitleaks.org/public/WCIT1···0etc.pdf
Where it starts getting sticky for data movement.

Measure IP traffic flows and use the results in connection with billing.

Latest draft of suggested changes:
»files.wcitleaks.org/public/T09-C···SW-E.pdf
Alternate draft:
»files.wcitleaks.org/public/CWG%2···TD62.pdf

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I agree, the UN was originally established to bring countries together. Over the years it has become a source of revenue for elitists. Time for the UN to be dismantled as it really has not contributed anything good over the last 15 years.
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How Dare they!!!

Such arrogance this UN has! You watch REAL news stories that interview places like Liberia and their people tell you. The UN is worthless! They do nothing to help. They just suck up money for their own elite group.

Down with the UN! Butt hurt Anonymous where are you now when we need you?

treichhart

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I tell the UN and NATO GTFO of US Internet Stuff!!!

I would tell UN and NATO/ETNU get there dam high horse and go f there selfs they need to start paying us for there bandwidth hog's!!! Because UN/NATO already taking over US we dont need them take are Internet now either. SO we need to stop these morons!!!
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Will not work

This idea will work out just like the crowd that awards the Olympics, the group that runs the footbul World Cup or UN Committee for Human Rights a few years ago. The US was kicked off but likes of Libya and Syria were OK. Not that our country is exempt from corruption but in most of the other countries in the world corruption is the only thing that functions well.
The comment that all the poor countries want is the money from the rich countries to pay for their systems in on the money. That money will be wasted for the same reason they don't have a good system now.

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*Chuckling...*

I can do with out the 'net if needed. Inconvenience? Sure. But, free WiFi is everywhere.

Bring it on. See my dollars disappear.
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