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UN: Terrorists Just Love An Open Useful Internet
Thinks ISPs Should Crack Down to Stop Terrorists
by Karl Bode 08:35AM Thursday Oct 25 2012
CNET directs our attention to a new study (pdf) that effectively complains that the Internet has become too open and useful, and that ISPs need to crack down on anonymity, increase data retention, and even crack down on open Wi-Fi hotspots -- or the terrorists win. The report, recently released at a conference in Vienna by the UN Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC), argues that there should be tougher rules placed on ISPs to retain user activity data.

The report insists that even those dastardly open Wi-FI hotspots should be especially done away with if you want to stay safe from terrorists:
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ISPs may require users to provide identifying information prior to accessing Internet content and services. The collection and preservation of identifying information associated with Internet data, and the disclosure of such information, subject to the appropriate safeguards, could significantly assist investigative and prosecutorial proceedings. In particular, requiring registration for the use of Wi-Fi networks or cybercafes could provide an important data source for criminal investigations. While some countries, such as Egypt, have implemented legislation requiring ISPs to identify users before allowing them Internet access, similar measures may be undertaken by ISPs on a voluntary basis.
Ignored is the fact that good old-fashioned police work and warrants usually helps track down people who actually commit crimes. Also ignored is the fact that should these crackdowns be put in place, terrorists will still find ways to communicate covertly without logs -- so the crackdowns really just harm regular users. While terrorists find an open, inexpensive, Internet useful -- so does everybody else -- and saddling it with new limitations making it less open certainly doesn't help the majority of its users -- most of whom have no intention of blowing anything up today.

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FTWalker

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More correctly-

If this crackdown actually occurrs - THEN the terrorists win.
nitzan
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Re: More correctly-

said by FTWalker:

If this crackdown actually occurrs - THEN the terrorists win.

Amen.

I see the future and it's 3 letters: V-P-N.
jjeffeory

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Re: More correctly-

VPN to where? You mean to a service that takes your credit card information down for payment, so they have your records for when an interested party goes after the VPN provider they can give that party YOUR information? Oh yea...

nonamesleft

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said by FTWalker:

If this crackdown actually occurrs - THEN the terrorists win.

Government sponsored you mean?

N3OGH
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Sleep with me or the terrorists win.

Well, it worked at the local girls college after 9-11!
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firedrakes

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if you say you dont like how the gov is run your a domestic terrorists

FFH
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UN is all for a restricted Internet

There are many countries in the UN that support heavy monitoring of the internet. The push is on from police and spy agencies from all countries to remove once and for all, anonymity on the Internet. The UN will aid and abet that goal. This trend is inevitable - even if it takes years to make it happen.
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Jason Levine
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Re: UN is all for a restricted Internet

No only remove anonymity, but punish people who violate the laws of countries even if said people aren't in that country. Post a photo of your wife driving the car by herself? Get charged with a heinous crime in Saudi Arabia. If this goes through (though how they'd implement this, I have no idea), the Internet would become as free as the most restrictive country. (i.e. Not free whatsoever.) If we get to that point, would the last one off the Internet kindly turn off the lights?
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me1212

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Re: UN is all for a restricted Internet

Does it say that in the report or somewhere else? I would love to read it, but sadly I don't have enough time to read it before class starts.
CXM_Splicer
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Inevitable?? I wouldn't go that far. Granted there are those that would love for that to happen but that doesn't mean it's definite. I don't even think it would be technologically feasible unless you implant RFID chips in everyone; even then, it would be hackable. You have to consider the expense and the justification. Considering we have so many other anonymous 'venues', I see little point. For instance, what about all those anonymous blue boxes that I can drop a letter into and have a message delivered to anyone... should those be eliminated also? I agree there are those that want ALL anonymity eliminated but I don't see it happening... ever.

bbeesley
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Let's not forget

and let's not forget the children....and the puppies....if the Internet is open, puppies die folks!

StuartMW
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Re: Let's not forget

And kittens! Don't forget the kittens

nonamesleft

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Defund the UN!

Defund this abomination! Ever hear of UN agenda 21? It's on there website, some people have broken it down so you know what it's about. (Do your own research on un agenda 21) You won't have states rights, or property rights, and stuff like that.
tkdslr

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Re: Defund the UN!

"agenda 21" is a voluntary (non-binding) set of guidelines for sustainability in the 21st century..

Eventually, humanity must achieve sustainability in a finite world, or suffer the same fate of bacteria in petri dish. (extinction)

nonamesleft

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Re: Defund the UN!

said by tkdslr:

"agenda 21" is a voluntary (non-binding) set of guidelines for sustainability in the 21st century..

Eventually, humanity must achieve sustainability in a finite world, or suffer the same fate of bacteria in petri dish. (extinction)

It's being implemented locally in a city or town near you, there is a reason why mitt romney used "New economy" as a buzzword. Speaking of that annoying sustainability buzzword, those people that want population reduction and that sort of thing should lead by example. The corporations that support this BS are only hurting themselves.
buzz_4_20

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Yes, line up everyone.

Lets just hand over OUR freedoms to feel like we're safe.

That's been working so well for everyone.

Does any have an IQ greater than 70 anymore, where is all the common sense?

Hey lets ban water, it causes too much drowning :|

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Re: Yes, line up everyone.

said by buzz_4_20:

Lets just hand over OUR freedoms to feel like we're safe.

We've already done that--or at least our gummint representatives did

The UN wants a one-world gummint (i.e. them). Control of the internet is just one part of that.
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Let's see where we're at

Let the brainwashing continue:
Cash is used only by drug dealers, or terrorists in LAN cafes, law-abiding people only use electronic, traceable transactions.
Open internet is used by terrorists, law-abiding people should be ok with having every keystroke captured, encryption is suspicious activity.
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CXM_Splicer
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Re: Let's see where we're at

Micro-chipping people is GOOD... just look how well it works for lost pets. Never worry about having to carry around your credit card, drivers license, medical records, resume... they even have chips that automatically update your Facebook page for you!

meeeeeeeeee

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Re: Let's see where we're at

said by CXM_Splicer:

Micro-chipping people is GOOD... just look how well it works for lost pets. Never worry about having to carry around your credit card, drivers license, medical records, resume... they even have chips that automatically update your Facebook page for you!

In a few years with a few more tweaks, they'll just need the chip, get rid of the person entirely. Think how wonderful THAT will be, a world full of chips. No more pesky people to mess things up.
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