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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
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| Piracy.
First off, I have never seen any GEEK or P2P/BT user rape then use a Cutlass to kill several people and then TAKE any software/movies/music - not pirates.
Second, no theft is involved - it's copying.
At best, it is Copyright Infringement - not theft... no matter what the Music & Movie Overlords have told you.
Wait until YOU get hosed because of the policing actions make a mistake and come after you.
Now, as for the warrantless wiretapping... BULLSHIT!
What if one of your enemies rat you out and they start tapping the shit out of your phone and internet?
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| Re: Excuse me? In his defense, just because it's a copy does not mean it does not cause any damage. This prevents the actual sale of the product. I will agree it is not stealing by technical terms but the effects are still the same.
Also think about it for a second, how many times has projects and even those involved in the military been pushed into the private sector? Plenty, so what makes you think the organization in charge of these warrantless wiretaps would be placed?
How about electronic voting, I find it BS that a device with just a few questions that its suppose to archive something somehow still fails. Who the hell is coding these machines? You got it private sector freaking BS. The BBR polls you put in threads is more stable and operates correctly than what a voting machine will do.
Oh software problems? Any programmer here can tell you that's some BS, even if all the information is in cypher text. I can't even trust the government to properly make a can opener, it's just a piece of metal cut and bent into a certain shape, but somehow they will manage to screw it up.
Also the basic IP laws have already been founded, no more laws are needed, what the private sector needs to do is find a secure method of distribution of their own content and seize all other forms of distribution. How are you stopping piracy if you still sell the unencrypted CD at FYE or Amazon.
NS bob, why you think there are like 120 used copies on sale on Amazon of just one CD?
If data is copied, then the laws are copied over as well no matter in what form that copy is where it be digital, analog, written on a mac donalds napkin, etc. No need for new laws because the current laws apply.
Tell the DOJ to keep their nose out of it, and lower the salary of congressman which somehow they don't want to approve a 2.5% increase for DoD personnel, but they get a raise whenever they wish. We could save a few million and discourage trash entering the house and get some actual people with some heart in there and do some good. | |
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| Re: Excuse me? In his defense, just because it's a copy does not mean it does not cause any damage. This prevents the actual sale of the product. I will agree it is not stealing by technical terms but the effects are still the same. However, just because someone pirates a movie, song, or piece of software, this doesn't mean that had they not pirated it, that they would've purchased it. | |
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| Re: Excuse me? Hey it's your responsibility for the copy of that data you bought, if you scratched it all up and left the disc on top of the DVD player and now it won't play that's your own fault. The copy you paid for is damage, that does not mean or it gives you the right to go and download someone else's copy and make it your own. This is why we backup data.
This is why we have hard copies of software on CD, for us to use. If the software is protected by a form of serial it does not matter if it's pirated or not. Hell it would save Microsoft billions by distributing Windows over a distributed content system like Bittorrent. The problem though is that the software you download was not granted permission to be distributed in that form or fashion. It also was not granted for you to obtain a license of that software either. So when it applies to software that requires a key, you technically stole a specific users key. For music and movies, the right to distribute that content online is simply not your own. Nobody said you can't take your DVD and play it on your friends 80in LCD.
When you buy music and movies you have the right to own it, and use it for your own personal use, but you do not have a license or the privilege to distribute it. Just because you can does not make it a right.
If those things where in place and worked as they should have the need for DRM is not there, but for every copy out there, it's another 9.99 that the company won't see. This is why the most money now comes from live tours and not CD sales.
The music industry does not need to bend over to your demands, nor do you to bend out to them. If you disagree with their practices ignore their products.
We are in a digital era where you don't need a record label to publish, make, and sell your music. Stop beating the dead horse already. | |
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| Re: Excuse me? If they are making it impossible then throw that BS to the garbage. Dadkins, I don't use BS that does not allow me to do what I wish, and if I do it's because it's tolerable. If I cannot backup the content I purchased, then they can kiss my arse.
Just take care of it, that's all I can say, you have insurance companies who will protect your toilet paper for 50 cents a month these days, it wouldn't surprise me if they would protect your BD+ equipment and CD's.
My position is neutral when it comes to piracy because I worked in the industry and I can also understand it as a consumer. But you know me already and when it comes to crap I don't like I either return it, and if that fails it becomes a projectile through Sony Pictures HQ's window. One way or the other I still win because I am the customer because I have the option of saying yes or no to the content that is provided to me. It's my money and I will use it wisely.
There are too many things to do in life than BS about BD+ or AACS, go sky diving or snow boarding once and a while. It's a lot more entertaining that sitting your butt on the computer breaking the crypto for a BD+ to get it to play on VLC.
If it's really worth it the BS content they give you, then by all means continue. But I am not bending over to anyone just so I can get my fix of House or the latest episode of Friends.
Music is very important to me and it's also part of my lifestyle, but again I am always on the hunt for new and better tunes. Most of the stuff that's actually good out there is not provided by the record labels. All that candy rap BS, is not really rap. The underground content is the real deal, which more than 99% of the time is free or published on some website for the world to hear. | |
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Can you do Blu?
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| Re: Excuse me? Go skydiving? Snowboarding?
Uhm... wish I could! Alas, I cannot.
I get to sit here, and even that is somewhat of an adventure in pain.
I got Blu-ray because I wanted better than DVD could offer me.
Plus, as soon as blank media comes down a bit more, 25-50GB of backed up data per disc will be a hell of a perk, no? 
BTW, breaking encryption on a DVD is a no-no.
Yeah, we can do it fairly easy these days... but still.
Hell! I can copy Sony DVDs, on a Sony laptop, with Sony software, and burn it to a Sony blank!
What irony? 
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| Re: Excuse me? And then you can have fun trying to rebuild that laptop after you discover there rootkit that was intentionally installed.
There are so many valid points here. Most people wouldn't be buying the crap that they're downloading.....I mean really; Metallica??? Pffft.
On the other hand piracy IS theft of property. There is a financial loss here. So for all of you that pee and moan about the tactics of the RIAA, just don't listen or support thier players in any way shape or form. Theres plenty of decent music out there in all genres for people that want to do business with non-RIAA affiliated musicians.
As far as leading to terrorism.....maybe they should take a long hard look at whos downloading John Mayer...I'd be all for that!
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| Beat your Snake and Salve it too. Correct me if I'm wrong;
When I buy a music CD, I am purchasing 2 things.
I am buying the use of those pieces of music.
I am also buying the media and packaging they're embedded in.
Good so far?
If the Music industry were as concerned with equanimity and propriety as they claim, then if I have scratched a CD, I should be able to return the damaged item and receive a replacement after paying a token media charge, since I have already purchase fair use.
Fair Use of IP is works both ways. When I have purchased mine, to charge me a second time for that same privilege is dishonest. Just as it would be to charge me twice for painting my house once.
Another reason why I defend and encourage what is termed music piracy, as a form of civil disobedience. I will continue to do so until the RIAA executives are in prison and the entity disbanded.
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I'm a PC, so shut up
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| said by Danny :
However, just because someone pirates a movie, song, or piece of software, this doesn't mean that had they not pirated it, that they would've purchased it. Everybody agrees on this point.
But the legal standard is that the copy "satisfy the taste for the original", which means that even if you would not buy a copy, you wanted it it enough to steal it. Then it's stealing.
ok, so it's copyright infringement and not theft. bfd | |
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| Re: Excuse me? said by Steve :But the legal standard is that the copy "satisfy the taste for the original", which means that even if you would not buy a copy, you wanted it it enough to steal it. Then it's stealing. ok, so it's copyright infringement and not theft. bfd It is a BFD. Crimes have labels for a reason. If I jaywalk and get brought up on charges for assault, that's a pretty BFD. Call it what you want, but when it comes to legal matters, having the appropriate label for an action is *very* important.
I mean, put it this way...PR for broadcasters call my TiVo-ing their shows & fast-forwarding through commercials "stealing". Does it make it such? Hell no. | |
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| said by ureihcim :Tell the DOJ to keep their nose out of it, and lower the salary of congressman which somehow they don't want to approve a 2.5% increase for DoD personnel, but they get a raise whenever they wish. I think it is a conflict of interest to allow congress-critters to vote THEMSELVES a pay raise. All they should be allowed to do is raise the salary of whoever is elected to fill their position after the next election for that position. IOW: To vote themselves a raise, they must first get reelected (no lame duck votes and a Senator must wait to get reelected to get a pending raise not just for a new Congress to get seated since 2/3s of them still have a Congress or two to serve in before needing to run for office again). | |
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| Re: Excuse me? said by RARPSL :I think it is a conflict of interest to allow congress-critters to vote THEMSELVES a pay raise. All they should be allowed to do is raise the salary of whoever is elected to fill their position after the next election for that position. IOW: To vote themselves a raise, they must first get reelected (no lame duck votes and a Senator must wait to get reelected to get a pending raise not just for a new Congress to get seated since 2/3s of them still have a Congress or two to serve in before needing to run for office again). And take their share of the national debt with them when they leave office.
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| This has already been done. Check out the latest amendment to the Constitution (#27).
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-sev···titution
It's not as good as it could be though. They can still vote for a "cost of living" increase and 99% of the Reps have voted for this every year... | |
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Res Firma Mitescere Nescit
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| said by GOLFnSUN :Intellectual Property is a significant part of the US economy. To not enforce IP laws can have a negative effect on the whole economy. So, as you defend IP crimes, keep that in mind as you stand in the unemployment line. So is the housing sector and stocks. Tell you what - let's just wholesale surveille without and kind of judicial oversight whatsoever all calls, email, snail mail, bank accounts, medical, etc. because not doing so has the potential to negatively affect the U.S. economy. Oh wait. The telcos already provide much of that data to the NSA and what they don't pick up in that capacity, the USA/Patriot/Military Commissions Act and FISA does. So we're all safe & snuggly in this country. Now why isn't the Dow at 30k? Right. Because we haven't secured the piracy sector. Well it's a good thing AG Mukasey came along. Whatever would we do without patriots like him?
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1 edit | Sir, I must correct you.
Discussing both counterfeiting and general piracy, he said that failure to protect our pockets from such crimes could lead to problems with our large house and car payments."
You forgot to include the huge PAYOFFS and Moneys received from lobbyists for supporting said issues tooth and nail like a puppet. | |
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Has anyone in this Administration actually READ the Bill of Rights?
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Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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Tulsa, OK | Re: Excuse me? said by Illiterate :
The real question should be. Can they even READ? "The people elected me to to Lead! Not to Read!" | |
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Your Freedom Fries Are Stale
join:2003-09-29
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The government shouldn't need a warrant when somebody picks up a phone in Iraq and calls the United States
The person in the United States is still under the protection of the Constitution of the United States you dumbass. Has anyone in this Administration actually READ the Bill of Rights? I know it's a rhetorical question, but..
No. They have not.
What is this administration of Bush and Dick if it isn't scaring people into giving up their rights? Completely limp. | |
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1 edit | And how would they do that if someone subscribes to one on European VOIP and call elsewhere using it?
What if my VOIP company is based in let say Germany. And I call my friend in Russia and talk about different bs. I think wiretapping in this situation would be very illegal!
But if this Administration wants to listen,no problem,I can always invite them to join the party using 3-way calling, unless... they don't like 3-somes. LOL | |
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| Re: Excuse me? said by Zoly :And how would they do that if someone subscribes to one on European VOIP and call elsewhere using it? What if my VOIP company is based in let say Germany. And I call my friend in Russia and talk about different bs. I think wiretapping in this situation would be very illegal! But if this Administration wants to listen,no problem,I can always invite them to join the party using 3-way calling, unless... they don't like 3-somes. LOL From my understanding of watching the news and all the situations our government folks are getting into , a 3 way sounds like they would enjoy it.
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Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
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| Re: Excuse me? said by Dogfather :My ass has been determined to be a WMD; especially after eating some cold pork & beans straight from the can. Good, read my signature below....you are doing good.
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| Re: Excuse me? said by Jason Levine :I don't completely buy that. Not that I'm against gun rights, but that I don't think that a group of gun owners would be able to take on the US Government. If the government was able to get the army involved, then the gun owners would be horribly outgunned. The most they could do is create an insurgency of sorts for awhile. By the time you need to resort to your guns, it's too late. Completely depends on if you could turn the army to help you, then its a fair fight. If history has shown us anything , and it should have , even organized military can not snuff out guerilla warfare.
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Elf Wizard
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| Please do not waste my tax dollars fighting the "evil p2p piracy", first off spend my money fighting crimes that cause harm, you know things like gang violence and murders.
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mrchris
We don't miss you Bush
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North Babylon, NY | Re: Excuse me? Because a nice number of people know the Taylor Troll with his traditional pro-RIAA/MPAA wording in each post, never bothers to reply to others either.
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We don't miss you Bush
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The bear formerly known as aaron8301
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| Re: Excuse me? said by mrchris :What a complete joke this is! I"m glad Bushy will be gone in January. Does that mean the AG gets replaced, too? | |
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We don't miss you Bush
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Go Colts
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| said by PolarBear :Does that mean the AG gets replaced, too? Typically teh AG goes with the administration. If the new administration was politically very similar to the existing administration, then you might see the AG stick around. So if Cheney was running, then maybe, but even then I would doubt it. McCain is significantly different from Bush that he would bring in a different AG. Obama or Clinton definitely would have someone different. | |
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| Yes. They just read the newly approved Bill of Rights 2.0. For example, the 4th amendment, which guards against searches without a warrant, now reads:
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized, unless the executive branch says they have a good reason.
See? So our rights are still fully protected because the executive branch would never do warrantless wiretapping unless they had a really, really good reason, right?
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clubs: | Are you not very well read up ? George Bush says they are just a piece of paper. | |
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join:2004-05-05
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| First Amendment to Godwin's Law I hereby propose an amendment, that Godwin's Law henceforth reads:
"As a (Usenet) discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis al-Qaeda or Hitler terrorists approaches one."
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join:2000-07-20
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clubs: | Uhh What does tapping every phone call between Iraq and the US have to do with IP crimes?
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Can you do Blu?
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join:2003-09-26
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| Re: Uhh said by Halo5 :What does tapping every phone call between Iraq and the US have to do with IP crimes? Is it some new thing where you call a secret Iraqi number, and they give you a link to download a cracked version of Windows or something? No shit!
Yet another of the Ted Stevens' School of Sending Internets Graduates! 
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clubs: | Our taxes dollars at work what could be better you know. (sarcasm off now) | |
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join:2001-11-25
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4 edits | This one's a caketaker! I thought I had heard it all from these morons, but this takes it to a new level.
Downloading a song encourages/is terrorism???!
Next, we'll be finding out that the Govt. believes that feeding your cat tuna fish encourages/is terrorism!
Unbelieveble!
This idiot does know that terrorists also live in
Mexico and Canada doesn't he? We'd better allow warrantless taps between all calls from these countries too!
Come to think about it, didn't some of the 9/11 terrorists live in San Diego? WOW! We'd better allow warrantless wiretapping of all calls to and from California too!
And we KNOW that at least one of them was in Maine that day and they were all in Massachusetts...we'd better put those states on the wiretap list too!
Where does it end?
Fortunately, there's less then a year before we quit getting F***ED by Dick and Bush. Hopefully, the next President will put OUR needs over those of Halliburton's.
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| Re: This one's a caketaker! said by jjss :
Yes, I'm sure the next president will take a good hard look at all the power at their disposal and cheerfully surrender it for the good of mankind.
...assuming they are in office long enough to discover all the deeply hidden programs, illegal operations and changes made to U.S. law by executive order, without benefit of Congressional oversight.
Politics being what it is, Congress, even as it will be re-constituted after the fall elections, will have little stomach for bringing the evildoers of the Bush era to justice, or in righting the damage to our governmental institutions. They will figure, perhaps rightly so, that the American people don't mind the status quo since they did nothing but cheer Bush on for EIGHT FUCKING YEARS!!!! Americans invested their religious fervor, their hard earned savings, and their most precious children's lives and futures for this abomination we call post 9/11-BushAmerica. What a waste... | |
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I B U, Who U B?
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| Hilarity ensues! You go into your office bathroom in the morning. Its out of TP. Ye Gads! You're going to become a terrorist!
My Windows machine had a blue screen this morning. It made me angry and turned me into a terrorist! Ergo, Windows=Terrorism!
I just love the doublespeak everyone always uses. Lets be honest-if they want to tap everything they are just going to do it, and what will we be able to do? Ohhhh vote them all out of office, sue them, but it will take years, and by then, they can parade all of the people they caught doing "bad" things in front of all of us and we'll fall for it. Ooooh.
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Elf Wizard
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Mullica Hill, NJ | Re: Hilarity ensues! well no, you are only destine to become a terrorist if you go into the stall next to yours and swipe the extra roll of TP.
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join:2005-07-24
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| What is our Government smoking? That is the most ludicrous statement that I've ever read. My response to the Attorney General: "There isn't enough evidence to prove that outrageous statement". I'm willing to bet if they actually read their own copy of the Constitution, most of their ideas and practices violate it. Yet again, this is what corruption in the government causes. Another question is, when has there been a need to convict someone via wiretapping...almost never. | |
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Creston, WV | Re: What is our Government smoking? damn government smoking weed behind our backs.
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Portland, ME | tax them Lets tax intellectual property like real property. | |
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1 edit | Re: tax them Best idea I've heard all day. If the IP cartel wants it's treated like real property then let their big IP assets pay off the government's debt. | |
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ztmike
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| Now people are terrorists? LOL
I didn't know me downloading music and movies made me a terrorist, aw damn I better not tell them where Ben Laden is ..being that I'm a terrorist and "in the know" and all..
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Doctor Four
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| AG Mukasey did not specifically mention file sharing Seems a lot of you have bought the MAFIAA flawed logic that
online filesharing is piracy or theft, even thinking that
when AG Mukasey spoke to Silicon Valley CEOs, he was talking
about people downloading music, movies and software for free.
He did not equate that type of infringement with terrorism,
but rather physical piracy (counterfeiting & bootlegging) for
profit. No file sharer wants to have anything to do with that
type of piracy; it goes against the very concept of p2p:
being able to download something for free.
He was speaking about large scale counterfeiting of more than
just movies, music and software. Everything from electronics
to medical and pharmaceutical products and most alarmingly,
even airplane parts.
It is this kind of piracy that is increasingly being used
to fund both terrorism and criminal activity. In fact,
many organized crime syndicates are turning to piracy as
a means of raising funds vs. the illegal drug trade, as it
is more profitable.
Instead of wasting their money, time and resources suing
file sharers and taking down torrent sites, the *AAs could
get more bang for their buck helping to stop counterfeiting.
The problem is rampant and what has been stopped so far is
only a small percentage of the total amount. It is going to
take international cooperation, but already there are a
number of countries that won't do a thing to stop it or
outright condone or encourage it (Antigua, anyone?), because
they view the US government as being a bunch of hypocrites.
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TX | The DMCA has to many Holes Now Get Ready For a New DMCA Get ready guys your mp3 might get you 10 years in jail yet this is just PR for a new law working stupid people into thinking a mp3 is a ... how lame | |
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New York, NY | An Obama administration Please people, for the love of God. Vote for Obama. He's the only candidate in the running right now that will clear all of these failures out of their positions.
McCain is just another one of Bush's cronies. | |
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PolarBear
The bear formerly known as aaron8301
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join:2005-01-03 | Re: An Obama administration Dude, take that stuff to the watercooler. | |
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mogooder
join:2002-11-26
Washougal, WA | A Sick Feeling If prosecuters have there way, everything will be terrorism related, even opposing the gov position.
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Jason Levine
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USA
| Where's Taylor Troll? I haven't seen Taylor Troll post yet. Come on Taylor, you know you want to rant about how this just proves that all P2P users are America-hating pirate terrorists that should be sent to Guantanamo Bay for downloading that song or movie. | |
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mrchris
We don't miss you Bush
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North Babylon, NY | Re: Where's Taylor Troll? Right here
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RR Conductor
RailRoadDude
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| I thought of this right away When I saw this thread, I immediately thought of this poster | |
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| Re: I thought of this right away said by RR Conductor :When I saw this thread, I immediately thought of this poster In Mother Russia, MP3's download you. | |
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Fred Frith
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| In Canada You say ? In Canada we tax all sorts of blank media, cd, tape, and dvd's.
The taxes are collected by our federal government and some are redistributed to the poor, destitute music industrialists.
The rest of those taxes I suppose, are used to help our troops in Afganistan. So, in an indirect way, people buying blanks like mad are indeed helping with the frightful war on terror!
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| Re: In Canada You say ? We have "taxes" on "music" cds. You know because all "music" cds are used for pirated content , none of us use them for our own music to give to friends.
Worst part is data discs are usually a tad bit thicker and get stuck in slot load audio players like my old Ford fusion.
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mikef1
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Littlestown, PA | U.S. Attorney General Says Piracy Leads to Terrorism "U.S. Attorney General Says Piracy Leads to Terrorism"
Nowhere in that article did I see any quote by the US Attorney General that implied that, at all.
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