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1 edit | I would have expected Japan or South Korea to be ahead on 3G devices.
Japan has little 2G service left.
Of course, this article only compares the U.S. to western Europe. 
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Raleigh, NC | yes, but how many subscribe to a data plan? What's tricky about the ComScore stats, is that it likely includes subs who have the nice 3G phone, but don't use 3G service.
Stats on subs who actually use a 3G service, are all over the place. It's hard to get a real read on that. | |
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Valencia, CA | Re: yes, but how many subscribe to a data plan? Yeah ... there's a huge difference in devices/technology.
U.S. CDMA (Verizon / Sprint) probably have +3/4 of their devices with CDMA EVDO (3G). AT&T has --
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Hingham, MA | Re: yes, but how many subscribe to a data plan? Some European carriers are similar, in that most of the phones they sell are 3G-capable- the biggest example of this is the company "3", which only operates 3G networks and doesn't even have 2G. | |
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Valencia, CA | Re: yes, but how many subscribe to a data plan? True... but I don't think that '3' makes up ~50% of European users.
Verizon + Sprint CDMA 1x/EVDO ~= AT&T + TMobile GSM/3G
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Hingham, MA | Re: yes, but how many subscribe to a data plan? Good point... especially when you consider Alltel into the mix. | |
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kudos:1 | If you use GSM (umts) then you are using 3G voice. That is not the same as Cdma (evdo), since evdo does only data. | |
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Raleigh, NC | Re: yes, but how many subscribe to a data plan? said by DaveDude:If you use GSM (umts) then you are using 3G voice. That is not the same as Cdma (evdo), since evdo does only data. Yes, but is UMTS voice something for the industry to get excited about? I think the reason these types of stats are thrown out is because everyone is looking to data to be the next revenue generator. | |
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| Re: yes, but how many subscribe to a data plan? said by disc:said by DaveDude:If you use GSM (umts) then you are using 3G voice. That is not the same as Cdma (evdo), since evdo does only data. Yes, but is UMTS voice something for the industry to get excited about? I think the reason these types of stats are thrown out is because everyone is looking to data to be the next revenue generator. Well alot of people have 3G phones, but using them for voice only. Not knowing or caring that they are 3g
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Brooklyn, NY | Re: yes, but how many subscribe to a data plan? said by DaveDude:said by disc:said by DaveDude:If you use GSM (umts) then you are using 3G voice. That is not the same as Cdma (evdo), since evdo does only data. Yes, but is UMTS voice something for the industry to get excited about? I think the reason these types of stats are thrown out is because everyone is looking to data to be the next revenue generator. Well alot of people have 3G phones, but using them for voice only. Not knowing or caring that they are 3g I don't know what you mean by "lot of people" but it's unlikely - if you list the phones on att.com or tmo.com most are still 2G only...
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Brooklyn, NY | said by DaveDude:If you use GSM (umts) then you are using 3G voice. Wrong. GSM is clearly 2G while UMTS is W-CDMA = 3G
In fact all you have to do is check most WM phones: you can select if you want to use WCDMA/UMTS/3G or stick with GSM by default for voice.
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kudos:6 | In before the iphone tools A shame a majority of these users are iPhone users who can't use the 3g because of a major design flaw in the device. | |
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Hingham, MA | Re: In before the iphone tools You really think a majority of US 3G users are iPhone users? The iPhone sold much better than we all could have guessed, then... | |
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| Re: In before the iphone tools said by Mike:It's actually AT&T crap ass network. Wrong again
nobody else but people with the iPhone are the ones having a problem.
Apple reduced the frequency the phone operates on to conserve battery life. Hence why people are dropping calls and can barely hold a 3g signal
This is old news at most mobile websites | |
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| Re: In before the iphone tools Blackberries have always been shitty with RF
this is nothing new
I've had 2
Ever since I switched to Nokias and Ericcsons I've never had a dropped call or net timeouts.
Here is video proof of the terrible rf the iPhone comes with
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Tulsa, OK | Latest info says it's at&t having network issues, not the iPhones. | |
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| Re: In before the iphone tools said by KrK:Latest info says it's at&t having network issues, not the iPhones. No problems here in New york city
3.5g is stable and I never see edge.
I'm guessing in rural areas it's a problem
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| Re: In before the iphone tools said by Mike:our site owner justin is having a hell of a time with his in brooklyn. it's more points to the network. I have no problems in Brooklyn & The Bronx & Manhattan with my Nokia E71 or my old Nokia N95 & AT&T Tilt
Even my father is having problems with his iPhone 3g here in NYC.
It's a combination of a shitty phone and badly placed towers.
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The ubiquity of 3G hardware is meaningless in the absence of a robust 3G network to support it.
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3 edits |  Are they talking about only the GSM version of 3G?
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Hingham, MA | Re: 5g China doesn't even have 3G deployed, except for a few test networks... China Mobile, the largest carrier in China (and the largest worldwide, followed by Vodafone), is planning on using the TD-SCDMA (Time Division Synchronous Code Division Multiple Access) technology, which was developed in China and isn't used anywhere else, is that what you're talking about? | |
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kudos:4 | interesting! I could have sworn I read somewhere that Europe has more devoloped 3G networks when compared to AT&T and I believe T-Mobile here in the states. | |
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