 
Bill
Light Up The Halo
Premium,VIP
join:2001-12-09
clubs:
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Here you can get 3000/768 DSL for $44, and 3000/256 Cable for $50. Most people are going to choose the cheaper option.
And if you want, you can get a package that's less than $30 a month, if you don't need all the speed. Cable doesn't have this option.
The only downfall is, people have to be fairly close to the CO to get 3000/768.
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 | dsless
join:2001-05-16
Pittsburgh, PA | Re: And... There are only so many people with in 18,000 ft of a CO. How will DSL achive those numbers? Its not like Verizon in rolling out RTs at a fast rate. Verizon, ugh | |
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Bill
Light Up The Halo
Premium,VIP
join:2001-12-09
clubs:
| Re: And... Yah, luckily, I'm within 7K feet of the CO.
I think Verizon has mostly put a stop to any DSL expansion, for now, and are only concentrating on FIOS.
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Smokey
Even drunk on a bet ya make it to Canada
Premium
join:2003-05-20
Va Beach
clubs: | Re: And... If only they would turn up the speed and drop the interleave. | |
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join:2003-12-04
Banks, OR
| Re: And... said by Smokey  :If only they would turn up the speed and drop the interleave. Interleaving is one of the things that allows them to deliver the higher speeds. You can have fast, or low latency. I alot of cases, you can't have both. there's no free lunch in physics. | |
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Swingerhead
Premium
join:2004-04-06
Richmond, VA | And as soon at the local telco start upgrading the pedastals in the neighborhoods for dsl2, then were going to see a much larger increase in DSL subscription. | |
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC | My area.... In my area, DSL is slower and more expensive.
5000/384 Cable = $39.99
3000/384 DSL = $54.99 (last time I checked)
It seems that the SBC areas are the only ones with fairly cheap DSL. | |
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koolman2
Premium
join:2002-10-01
Anchorage, AK
 ·GCI.net
| Re: My area.... Same here, except the cable has low caps. For the same price as unlimited 320/240 DSL, I have 2mbps/256kbps cable with a 10GB cap, which is more than I use.
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | In my area - Cable = 54.99 + rental (or 42.99 + rental with bundle) for 3000/384
DSL = 24.95/ 1500/384, 36.95 for 3000/512 and 49.95 for 6000/608. | |
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jackknife
join:2001-02-24
Phoenix, AZ
clubs:
| This trend will just continue. Until cable companies can wire more homes, DSL is be the winner. It's been 10 years since Cox told me that I would be able to get cable in 1 year. It still isn't here.
I'm sure that cable is fine for all the poor families. But, anyone with any money at all will choose to go with a more reliable option like DSL. | |
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imrf
Premium
join:2002-06-06
Utica, MI
·Comcast
·WOW Internet and C..
| Re: This trend will just continue. said by jackknife :Until cable companies can wire more homes, DSL is be the winner. It's been 10 years since Cox told me that I would be able to get cable in 1 year. It still isn't here. Cable has more customers wired right now, in the US. Did you even read the article.
I'm sure that cable is fine for all the poor families. But, anyone with any money at all will choose to go with a more reliable option like DSL. Wow, what an ignorant and arrogant statement. How is cable for poor people? Looking at the posts here, I would say DSL is for poor people since they have the $20-$30 price for the slow 1.5Mbps and less speeds. As for reliability, that's all a matter of local systems. Both cable providers by me have had a 99.9% uptime in the last 3 years(that has been the time I have compared them).
I have money, and it's going to my faster cable service, instead of funding SBC. | |
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join:2003-09-26
Elko, NV | Re: This trend will just continue. 1.5Mbps is slow? Am I missing something? | |
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imrf
Premium
join:2002-06-06
Utica, MI | Re: This trend will just continue. In my opinion, yes, it's slow. | |
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Rambo76098
join:2003-02-21
Pataskala, OH
| Re: This trend will just continue. Well at least in my area, dsl starts at $19.99- lower than most dial up big names. I pay $35 for 3.0/400 and if I wanted cable it would be around $60 a month from Insight for 2.5/375ish speeds (my neighbor next door has the insight broadband), so in my opinion, after he has had to use my computer several times a year because his cable went down, while in almost 3 years my dsl has never gone out, I'll stick with the cheaper, faster, more reliable internet connection at least while I live here. | |
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imrf
Premium
join:2002-06-06
Utica, MI
·Comcast
·WOW Internet and C..
| Re: This trend will just continue. Are those prices the SBC promos?
It all boils down to each area, as it has been said quite a few times.
Here I get 6.0/500 for $45($55 without tv service) from my cable company, the closest SBC package is 1.5-3.0/384-512 for $37 a month with one year contract, which isn't worth it, IMO. Plus, I am then forced to have phone service through them too, which is another $40 or so a month. | |
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thender2
Glamour Profession
Premium
join:2004-05-16
Staten Island, NY
| said by john262 :1.5Mbps is slow? Am I missing something? If you're paying more than $20/month, yeah.. | |
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| gamer999
join:2004-10-27
Richardson, TX
| video on demand just cause you have cable doesnt mean you are poor you dumb hick I had sateilite that loses a signal every time it rains and doesnt have as many channels for the money as Digital cable with the promo i got, when it's over ill prob go back to dish network havnt tried them yet. Just cause someone has cable doesnt make them a pauper. Dsl is a dud. | |
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thisismyname1
join:2004-07-26
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| Re: This trend will just continue. said by jackknife :Until cable companies can wire more homes, DSL is be the winner. It's been 10 years since Cox told me that I would be able to get cable in 1 year. It still isn't here. I'm sure that cable is fine for all the poor families. But, anyone with any money at all will choose to go with a more reliable option like DSL. I think you mean DSL. Cable has almost all houses wired while DSL has so many issues with there distance crap. I hope DSL fixes that issue fast.
I think they need to offer faster packages as well. If SBC could provide me with a 6Mbps/768Kbps package for $50 and reduced my 22,000ft distance I would switch in less then a second.
However they have A LOT of distance issues it isn't even funny. I am in Illinois which ranks about 5 state that is most populated and lived in the biggest City Illinois has (Chicago) and they have so many problems providing even their 3008/512Kbps package to me. Heck they couldn't even provide me with any package really. | |
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Dominokat
"Hi"
Premium
join:2002-08-06
Boothbay, ME
clubs:
·RoadRunner Cable
| Distance I don't live within 18,000 feet of the CO. Not everyone does and this is where cable comes in. There is no distance requirement for cable so unless the Bells can get past this distance requirement, DSL isn't an option for those of us that are "in the sticks" and probably never will be.
Thank God for cable. | |
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LoneGreyWolf
Premium
join:2002-09-09
Bath, NY
clubs:
| Re: Distance Not everyone that lives in the sticks even have cable as an option. Closest cable line to me is 9 miles away. TW has no plans of expanding out to here either as it would be to costly for them. So we get our TV through DirecTv, but I will never touch Direcway for Satellite internet. To expensive for me with the FaP on top of it which I will go over just about every day. Not to mention, I'm a gamer and Sat does not work for gaming. | |
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| john262
join:2003-09-26
Elko, NV | There will always be people out of range of one or the other technology. I'm the other way around. Cable broadband is not available here but DSL is. It cuts both ways. | |
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MoJoe16
join:2004-09-17
Joplin, MO | ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I would be happy with either!!!!@!##!@#!#
Please excuse my anger. I hate dialup, or paying over $100/month for 100k IDSL. | |
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| dsless
join:2001-05-16
Pittsburgh, PA
| Re: ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh said by MoJoe16 :I would be happy with either!!!!@!##!@#!# Please excuse my anger. I hate dialup, or paying over $100/month for 100k IDSL. BTDT with Verizon ISDN. $120 dollars a month. | |
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join:2005-02-24
Howell, MI
| Re: ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh o man i kno what ur talkin bout i hate dial up... and im pretty sure that dsl or cable isnt avalible in my area. i hate it. well i guess i cant blame them for not makin it avalible in my area cause i basically live in hick-ville so... yea my only option is satillite. *cough* waste of money. $700 installation fee + $100 a month = a stupid investment.. but yea o well mayb someday they will make it in my area | |
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join:2001-05-16
Pittsburgh, PA
| Re: ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Yea, I understand. Poca WV. EPodunk. Not a big town but Adelphia finally wired are area about 18 months ago for HSI. They upgraded us the last few days to 6M/752K or so. I think now days it should be called daildown. Certain your not dailing anything up!  | |
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JTRockville
Data Ho
Premium,MVM
join:2002-01-28
Rockville, MD
clubs: | Here's to Hoping Let's hope the count of FTTP subscribers beats DSL and HFC by 2008. | |
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imrf
Premium
join:2002-06-06
Utica, MI
·Comcast
·WOW Internet and C..
| Re: Here's to Hoping Unless Verizon is going to wire 30+ million people by then, I don't see it happening, since SBC and the other lame thinking telcos are only going to install a lame FTTN system and still use copper to the home.
If Verizon wants to strike up a franchise in my area and wire me with FTTP I'll take it. | |
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JTRockville
Data Ho
Premium,MVM
join:2002-01-28
Rockville, MD
clubs: | Re: Here's to Hoping Yeah, I know it's unrealistic. Still, it's a pretty sad commentary that the study didn't even mention FTTP. The only mention of fiber was a side-note regarding regulation-less VoIP with DSL on new fiber deployments. | |
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jazzy112
join:2003-12-05
Fargo, ND
| I'll Never Use PPOE.... The thought of one server at the ISP processing all traffic for all subs is mind boggling. Why would you want to be a part of a network with that much useless traffic on it?
At least around here, DSL uses PPOE. PPOE causes headaches galore for me, mainly the hardware crashing or not getting authenticated properly on a regular basis. | |
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Bill
Light Up The Halo
Premium,VIP
join:2001-12-09
clubs: | Re: I'll Never Use PPOE.... It is annoying to setup a login for PPoE, but I've had no problems getting it to work. | |
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Vchat20
Landing is the REAL challenge
join:2003-09-16
Warren, OH
clubs:
| Re: I'll Never Use PPOE.... i agree. the last few times i have switched firmware versions on my dlink router i have had to reset the ppoe info. sure it may be annoying, but once its in, ive never had a single problem with the connection. neither have i had a problem with it before i got the router. | |
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| achuchma
join:2001-04-11
Tampa, FL
| My recent DSL install when I moved into my new house does not require PPoE (Verizon).
I also know quite a few people who have had DSL installed in the past 2 years that do not need PPoE either.
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ib50MbSoon
Formerly TwoKDialup
Premium
join:2002-06-07
Coloma, MI
| Comcast just "Biggie Sized" me and broke the "dude" barrier!
No way I'm downgrading to SBC DSL. | |
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ced06
join:2004-03-12
Towanda, PA | ` Then there are people that are both too far from the CO and the cable company won't wire them because they're too rural... | |
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Hugh Janus
The Internet O.G.
Premium
join:2002-07-10
back nine
clubs: | U.S. DSL Users Grew 41% in '04 That is a large jump in users. I guess the recession is over. | |
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Premium,ExMod 2003-06
join:2001-03-15
hiatus
| Re: U.S. DSL Users Grew 41% in '04 said by Hugh Janus :That is a large jump in users. I guess the recession is over. I don't know about using DSL subs as a measure of the economy... Its simply possible that people have started to actually make a cost/analysis of DSL/cable over dialup and have started to see that dialup simply isn't worth the money when you have the choice.
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hourensuman
@siu.edu
| Can't we all just get along and agree that whether it be DSL, Cable, Satellite or whatever, they're all better than the "alternatives" out there.
To me, it all depends on the individual companies involved. In the last two places I've lived, I've chosen SBC over Charter, and Mediacom over Verizon, mostly because of my "disenchantment" from the two latter companies. | |
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jlb31
join:2003-12-18
Suffolk, VA | The forgotten All this great news about DSL, and I still have only one option for broadband...cable. | |
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