 ropeguruPremium join:2001-01-25 Mechanicsville, VA | But...
The U.S. will not help bring it to rural America... Politicians SUCK!!! -- FWD#: 223611 | |
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 |  pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium join:2002-05-02 Mount Airy, MD | Re: But... said by ropeguru:The U.S. will not help bring it to rural America... Politicians SUCK!!! We make a lot more than $50 a month. Perhaps those who want such things could push to do it themselves, without any government involvement. That's the only way things get done in this country anyway.
But, the fact that we are so generous to a former enemy is more irrefutable proof that the USA is indeed the greatest country in the world. -- Only SHATNER is Kirk. | |
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 |  |  BF69Premium join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN | Re: But... said by pnh102:said by ropeguru:The U.S. will not help bring it to rural America... Politicians SUCK!!! We make a lot more than $50 a month. Perhaps those who want such things could push to do it themselves, without any government involvement. That's the only way things get done in this country anyway. But, the fact that we are so generous to a former enemy is more irrefutable proof that the USA is indeed the greatest country in the world. Please, that fact our government will help anyone and everyone even enemies, more than it's own people, speaks volumes. | |
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 |  |  |  pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium join:2002-05-02 Mount Airy, MD | Re: But... said by BF69:Please, that fact our government will help anyone and everyone even enemies, more than it's own people, speaks volumes. Maybe people here don't need help. Who in the USA makes $50 a month? Do we have people dying in the streets because of starvation? Most "poor" in this country have it better than most people on this planet.
There are a lot of people who come to this country with barely the clothes on their backs and nothing in their pockets but they are able to work hard and be successful. Some people here don't want to be bothered with putting forth the effort to help themselves even though opportunities for success are abundant here. Why should those people be helped? -- Only SHATNER is Kirk. | |
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 |  |  |  |  shoan join:2006-02-27 Benton, AR | Re: But... If they are so poor that they are starving in the streets then why are we not helping feed them vs. giving them WiMax. First learn to feed your self and then get the perks of not having to struggle for food. So I guess they can afford PC's but can not afford to eat. I hate seeing tax money that I worked for get yanked away from me to do non life substaining projects in other countries. Im all for helping people survive but they do not need WiMax to be able to farm the land and raise cattle. | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium join:2002-05-02 Mount Airy, MD | Re: But... said by shoan:If they are so poor that they are starving in the streets then why are we not helping feed them vs. giving them WiMax. Maybe they are able to do that already? -- Only SHATNER is Kirk. | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  shoan join:2006-02-27 Benton, AR | Re: But... maybe so but you were the one who took it to starving in the streets. no biggy just think they should feed them first and this is goign off of you saying that they are starving in the streets is all. | |
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 |  |  |  |  SeandhiSeeing From a New LevelPremium join:2003-04-19 Humble, TX | One of my Mexican friends always says, "it's better to be poor in America than 'well off' in Mexico." -- You're an enlightened cat, and I dig that. | |
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 |  |  |  |  BF69Premium join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN | said by pnh102:said by BF69:Please, that fact our government will help anyone and everyone even enemies, more than it's own people, speaks volumes. Maybe people here don't need help. Um I have a friend that lives out in the boonies and can either only get dial-up or crappy satelite, yet let's help those that tried to kill my father, uncles and the rest of their generation. | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium join:2002-05-02 Mount Airy, MD | Re: But... said by BF69:Um I have a friend that lives out in the boonies and can either only get dial-up or crappy satelite There's nothing stopping you from investing your own money with your friend to build a broadband operation.
said by BF69:yet let's help those that tried to kill my father, uncles and the rest of their generation. So we shouldn't have invested the resources needed to rebuild Germany, Italy and Japan after World War 2 either? -- Only SHATNER is Kirk. | |
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 |  |  woody7Premium join:2000-10-13 Torrance, CA | "Perhaps those who want such things could push to do it themselves, without any government involvement. That's the only way things get done in this country anyway."
And when you do the telcos step in and squash it  -- BlooMe | |
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 |  |  |  pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium join:2002-05-02 Mount Airy, MD | Re: But... said by woody7:And when you do the telcos step in and squash it Only if people insist the government do it. Private citizens have set up their own ventures to provide Internet access without running into trouble with phone and cable companies. -- Only SHATNER is Kirk. | |
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 |  |  Mars4001Premium join:2007-03-23 Pacoima, CA | said by pnh102:said by ropeguru:The U.S. will not help bring it to rural America... Politicians SUCK!!! But, the fact that we are so generous to a former enemy is more irrefutable proof that the USA is indeed the greatest country in the world. "generous", what are you talking about? Devastating a country for 30 years (1954 - 1975) and causing the 2 million death toll are what you call generous? Invading a poor country that had no means or intention to affect the US economically nor geographically is not generous!
The Japaneese have only occupied Vietnam for a few months during the Wolrd War II and after the war, then they paid billions dollars to help rebuild Vietnam after the war.
Helping building some WI-Max or WiFi spots here and there in the country that the US killed million people and bringing the country back to the stone age are NOT generous at all!
I think you have to re-define the word "Generous" in your vocabulary or should I assume you did not pass the first or second grade at all. Or if you had college, I suggest you should re-take the history course. | |
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 |  |  |  pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium join:2002-05-02 Mount Airy, MD | Re: But... said by Mars4001:Devastating a country for 30 years (1954 - 1975) Retake math.
said by Mars4001: and causing the 2 million death toll are what you call generous? Did you forget the 3 million who died after Congress cut the funding for the war.
said by Mars4001:Invading a poor country that had no means or intention to affect the US economically nor geographically is not generous! When did I say it was?
said by Mars4001:Helping building some WI-Max or WiFi spots here and there in the country that the US killed million people and bringing the country back to the stone age are NOT generous at all! Then what is it? -- Only SHATNER is Kirk. | |
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 BF69Premium join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN 1 edit | So let me get this straight So in America it's BAD to try to get broadband out to rural people in a country we were at war with and who is communist it's ok. | |
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 |  shoan join:2006-02-27 Benton, AR | Re: So let me get this straight remember broadband leads to piracy and piracy leads to harming the corn farmers for lack of popcorn sales. | |
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 |  openbox9Premium join:2004-01-26 japan kudos:2 | Who said it's BAD in America to get broadband to the rural environment? What is bad is how some people want to pay for broadband to the rural environment. | |
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 | | I really don't understand. I really don't... How the hell does a place where people work in rice fields, dont have running water or electricity yet they have high speed internet access.
Yet, people in the richest nation in the world are still using 20+ year old technology to connect.
What is it going to take for the US to be blanketed by wireless mesh internet access, at an affordable price?
$50 dollars is not affordable, nor is $40 or $30. SH!T we pay enough in taxes why can't high speed internet be something like 10 dollars a month or no more than $20. | |
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 |  | | Re: I really don't understand. It's probably because they don't have all the other electrical stuff cumulatively causing interference.
The USA is not the richest nation - some folks in the US have lots of money, but most of the folks are pretty poor. And there are a few that think their gravy train is just around the corner.
Look up "cargo cult" on da Wiki - that is what many of us are like, believers in magic. Good thing about believing in magic is that, in general, you have unlimited bandwidth inside your head. But if you let it outside your head then watch out for the men in white coats.
Another thing to think about is, "Where is the money?". So if a company or group assists an overseas country, then ask, does the US co get tax breaks or what "favors" does it accrue. | |
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 |  |  | | Re: I really don't understand. said by tashammer:It's probably because they don't have all the other electrical stuff cumulatively causing interference. The USA is not the richest nation - some folks in the US have lots of money, but most of the folks are pretty poor. And there are a few that think their gravy train is just around the corner. Look up "cargo cult" on da Wiki - that is what many of us are like, believers in magic. Good thing about believing in magic is that, in general, you have unlimited bandwidth inside your head. But if you let it outside your head then watch out for the men in white coats. Another thing to think about is, "Where is the money?". So if a company or group assists an overseas country, then ask, does the US co get tax breaks or what "favors" does it accrue. Americans are the wealthiest people in the world, according to GDP/GNP. But, it's a whole lot simpler to just say, "but most are poor." You have never left OZ, have you?  | |
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 fuziwuziNot born yesterdayPremium join:2005-07-01 Atlanta, GA | amazing... So a rural fishing village in Vietnam gets broadband, but an entire area in rural Virginia (where my family lives) is limited to 24kbps dialup for internet. There is no cable tv or cablemodems, DSL not available, and even dialup is limited to 24kbps because of the system used to provide POTS. | |
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 intellerSociopaths always win. join:2003-12-08 Tulsa, OK 1 edit | why not use USF money while you're at it. I mean hell, if you are going to blow our tax dollars you might as well do it with style!
i hope you gov thugs at least got some cheap hookers out of the deal.
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 netwirePremium join:2001-04-27 Shelby, NC kudos:1 | This is a bit upsetting... As others have said, the fact that the gov't will help other countries get broadband in rual areas BEFORE it's own conutry shows you where their heart is... not with their own people that's for sure (unless there is money/oil to be had). | |
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 korymGo Wisp'sExMod 1999-03 join:1999-12-23 Richmond, VA | Why involve the gov't at all? The nice thing about our country is that we're free to deploy our own networks if we want without relying on the government. It never ceases to amaze me when I see how people bitch and complain about the lack of broadband in their area. Here's an idea: form a community-involved consortium/initiative/whatever-you-wanna-call-it, gather all your neighbors and fellow residents/citizens/etc together, hold a town meeting, talk about building a community-driven access network, look into purchasing T1 or whatever access, set pricing models, line up the customers (the residents themselves) and beat the telcos, cable providers, gov't, etc. at their own game and be involved in running and satisfied in knowing that you're helping out yourself and your fellow neighbor because you all built this awesome network.
(yes I know I left out details.)
/off my soapbox now.  -- The Virginia WiFi Company : Richmond Free WiFi : Mohr-or-Less | |
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 |  | | Re: Why involve the gov't at all? I think I will wait for 700MHz Is the gov't going to ban wifi ? I am glad some people in Vietnam got to use the internet. Chicago the class rooms had computers the administrator was happy to point that out. I got the computers to work and connected them to the cisco router to the t1 line to administration wasn't as happy as when the computers just sat there, I thank God They had a porn filter. | |
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 | | It's not a fishing village Just out of interest, it's not a fishing village. It's way up in the highlands near the border with China and the main business is farming and tourism (guest houses). The hardest part of the project was logistics -- getting the gear up there. I interviewed someone about the project last week. I will put up a link on my blog when I get around to it at »www.notshort.net | |
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