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1 edit | Providers With providers worrying about how to line the pockets with cash no wonder we are falling behind. Verizon is the only ones who are pushing the envelope right now. Everyone else is wondering how much smaller they can offer us bandwidth and how much profit they can see. Serves us right. | |
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kudos:1 | Re: Providers It seems like everybody in this forum knows the score, it's ashame no one else knows. It's all about money, not advancement in civilization. FTTP / FTTH is just the first step, after that is the services that fiber can handle. But it seems to me it will be a very long time before we see speeds comparible to Japan / China. We might have flying cars by then.
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You are surprised? You shouldn't be.You would think even the liberals would have some shame. I love how they think the President can just snap his fingers and everyone just jumps. Get a clue. | |
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FYI there's a lot of things Bush could careless about, border security, fuel efficiency, the environment, the deficit.. Does a lack of a national broadband development initiative really surprise you..? Sure doesn't surprise me.. | |
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Johnson City, TN | Re: Providers-Ding Ding winner At least the FCC has something to do with HDTV.
The president has almost nothing to do with broadband...
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Like we're some colonial power, like britan was and just go and invade for no other reason than to flex our muscles, or, to take slaves. Fact is, The whole world believed there were weapons on mass destruction in Iraq, largely because Saddam used them to wipe out whole towns of Kurds in a most horrible way.
It would be one thing if President bush had just invaded on his own, but the inconvenient fact is that he didn't. The UN authorized it, as did congress, because the evidence presented by many CREDIBLE intelligence agencies of many nations said Saddam had WMD. It was not something just cooked up for an excuse to go to war as the democrats would have us believe.
And, as far as being a country that c"can invade countries at will"-As if that were ever a true statement about the US-My question is: What point is there to being the single "super power" in the world if we are too much of a pansy as a society to look out after our interesta in the world? To not do so invites disaster. No matter how you slice it, we would have had to deal with these Islamic extremists sooner or later, as well as the situation in the middle east, since, like it or not, the industrialized world (not just the US) is stupidly dependent on oil supplies. We simply can not have a bunch of oil Sheiks dictating to us, or,holding the world economy (or our economy for that matter) hostage
And, you HAVE noticed how the countries in that region have begun to see the light after we did some ass whipping in the region? They were over there cowering from Saddam who had the largest military there because they knew he would use it, given the chance. They thought the us was weak, yet we kicked Saddams ass in what... 2 weeks?
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Deltaville, VA | said by jarablue:With providers worrying about how to line the pockets with cash no wonder we are falling behind. Verizon is the only ones who are pushing the envelope right now. Everyone else is wondering how much smaller they can offer us bandwidth and how much profit they can see. Serves us right. Verizon and SBC are the two major players who are moving in every court in the country to surpress muni-broadband. That is not pushing the envelope, it is a big dog growling over a bowl of food he can not eat because he is already full.
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I've read horror story blogs about the screwups in damaging public/private property while companies fall all over themselves to deploy broadband upgrades. I don't see much in the way of cablecos upgrading... probably because they have the most to lose in a bandwidth fight, right now.. (becuase they are CONTENT providers) but its about 20 years ago we were on 2400 buad modems! So, in another 20 years we'll have 240megabits?!?!? Its anybody's guess, | |
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kudos:2 | FCC Fees Maybe if we got rid of all these damn FCC Fees that ISPS have to pass on to their customers, we wouldn't be in so much problem. But than again, with the current CEO's of large ISP's, their primary goal is to be able to retire as millionaires.
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Nine Mile Falls, WA | Re: FCC Fees and your primary goal is to remain poor? | |
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join:2000-05-11 | Both, and neither. "The U.S. ranking is something ITU and OECD researchers attribute to a lack of a cohesive government infrastructure policy - but free-market fans and incumbent supporters attribute to geography. The data indicates there are 11.4 broadband subscribers per every 100 U.S. inhabitants."
It's both. Plus, maybe, just maybe, most of us have better things to do than sit in front of a computer all fooking day playing with ourselves, unlike some "front running" counties' citizenry. | |
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| Re: Both, and neither. To add to you comment.... What percentage of the US is covered by DirecWay internet service? Just about 100% of the country, I would venture to guess without doing some digging. Just because people are capable of getting broadband internet access, doesn't necessarily mean that they want or need to.
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Atlanta, GA | Re: Both, and neither. said by manfmmd:Just because people are capable of getting broadband internet access, doesn't necessarily mean that they want or need to. I think that's a lot of it. Availability is generally not much of an issue nowadays (aside from rural areas, and even there satellite is available) -- it seems to be more of an issue of the usual American technophobia and the fact that (unlike in much of the rest of the world, where all phone calls are billed by the minute) dialup is quite cheap.
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Lake Forest, IL | Re: Both, and neither. Problem is the cost of access in those areas. If you would need to pay $90/month for internet, you may think twice. Not all have the $30/month RBOC deals. | |
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Universal broadband access for cheap would bring the country to a much higher level of understanding.
Ohh and for the people who say we got better things to do with our time. Consider that tv is the #1 time waster if that time is spent reading news and informative posts at even 1/2 the time they spend on tv they would both burn more calories(obesity epidemic?) and become a more informed citizen, but we can't have the latter at this point, educated thinking citizens are bad for governments.
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well they could still spread some of the religious nut information on the net too 8)) that seems to work wonders for controlling people :-O
I would agree 100 % on that.
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North Andover, MA | said by BosstonesOwn:said by TheGhost:Problem is the cost of access in those areas. If you would need to pay $90/month for internet, you may think twice. Not all have the $30/month RBOC deals. Let's also throw in the fact that city dwellers make 2 x on average then rural workers. So that $90 becomes 180 to a country boy and his family. Let's see pay the mortgage or broadband hmm tough choice. Now lets look at the difference in mortgage's / cost of living. 1BR condo's go for 500K in and around Boston. That 3000k+ a month for a mortgage payment. You can buy a mansion in wyoming with 500 acres of land for 50k. The same poor people who can't afford broadband in the city are the same type of people who can't afford it in the country.. A worldwide cost benefit analysis would show our service options as VERY poor however. The 15 countries that have better services than us almost certainly have lower cost structure.
I don't expect companies to wire up township 87 in northern maine. Anywhere were its not profitable to wire, are the places where the government SHOULD step in. I ALSO don't think that the government should be helping at all for areas where it is profitable to wire up. If a profit can be turned, someone will jump on it. Stop giving out subsidies and credits to mega-corps who can easily fund this stuff themselves in the corporate debt market. | |
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kudos:2 | said by manfmmd:To add to you comment.... What percentage of the US is covered by DirecWay internet service? Just about 100% of the country, I would venture to guess without doing some digging. Just because people are capable of getting broadband internet access, doesn't necessarily mean that they want or need to. Well in our country, Broadband serves 1 purpose, mainly just internet browsing, email, trivial things compared to other country's. In China, Japan, HK, they already have Video Phones, Interactive TV,(not the BS crap we have, But real Interactive TV) And so many things we only dream about. Its part of everyday life overseas. So if we had fiber to all our residents, then we would be able to adopt this lifestyle, and more people would be compelled to buy into it. But until their is more than just email and gaming, we will continue to lag behind the rest of the world.
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1 edit | Re: Both, and neither. "then we would be able to adopt this lifestyle"
I guess the real question is why we would adopt this lifestyle. Asian societal structure is profoundly different than ours, and that's just one aspect. I don't buy into the "if you build it they will come" theory. If it was true we'd all have fiber up our bums already--god knows there is enough fiber already strung and buried out there. The profit motive is irresistible and some outfit would be raking in the dough if there was actually a demand for this fluff.
More likely, not all that many people want "interactive TV" or video phones. I certainly don't, and I certainly have the resources to purchase those services if I wanted to. | |
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kudos:2 | Re: Both, and neither. I dont care for interactive TV anyway. But its not us that I am talking about. Its everyday Joe and Jane. That sit their all day watching ET tonight. | |
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Atlanta, GA | Few people are FTTP-capable...but exactly, different cultures/societies, different trends. | |
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1 edit | said by DaMaGeINC:In China, Japan, HK, they already have Video Phones, Interactive TV,(not the BS crap we have, But real Interactive TV) And so many things we only dream about. Its part of everyday life overseas. Asian culture is VERY different (read: much more into gadgets and electronics) than US culture, or European culture for that matter. Comparing the US to countries that are more similar to the US (Canada, the UK, Germany, Australia, etc.) is more fair.
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| KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
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| said by RadioDoc:Plus, maybe, just maybe, most of us have better things to do than sit in front of a computer all fooking day playing with ourselves, unlike some "front running" counties' citizenry. You're probably right. Those other countries have things like vacations, time off, holidays, mandatory overtime pay for odd hours, etc
They have more R&R and time off. We're busy having to work too damn much.... Welcome to the Corporate Nation.
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Erie, PA | Re: Both, and neither. I'll laugh at you now presumptively for when those other countries realize how retarded some of their little work policies are and change them to be like ours. Oh lookie there, what's going on in France?
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| No problem--- Once their Governments sell them out to big money interests, they can join us in the work harder and harder for lower and lower standards of living category....
Course they'd be way behind us in that "race" anyway.
It's great to be #1 at something I guess....
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| said by Combat Chuck:Oh lookie there, what's going on in France? Are you referring to this?
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Notice it's exactly against the trend here. Many European nations have laws protecting fair use of the people over the Corporate wishes..... opposite of here. Those silly countries need to be like us. Sell out. Nah. Maybe they should instead provide at least some examples for OUR leadership... it would be nice.
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|  oliphantI Have 8 BoobiesPremium
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Corona, CA | Re: U.S. lagging again... The U.S. is lagging because some choose not to purchase a broadband connection? This statistic is about how many actually choose to subscribe...not how many are servicable.
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| Any way you cut it - - it's pathetic for the world's largest economy to be rated so low in an element of information technology. But hey, look at our education system; health care; having no national day off to vote; wages shrinking while corporate profits rise - the list of inequalities in America masquerading as 'someone else's problem' is enumerable. When we're no longer the hot-shot economy, being 16th (or 25th) won't matter!
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Additionally, these days this ranking seems to be just about bragging rights. I really doubt that South Korea has a significant competitive advantage over us simply due to BB coverage... | |
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Cheyenne, WY | I am Going to be very selfish I have my broadband connection it is going to be upgranded in a few weeks to as much as 7 mbps. I am not going to loose any sleep over the fact that Joe Blow who lives in Not On The Map, Wyoming Doesn't have broadband nor do I care if the United States is number 16 in broadband penetration. I am not going to worry about something I can do nothing about.
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Banks, OR | Geography? Yea, right! Geography doesn't explain why Canada is ahead of us. Or the Scotish Highlands. Or why even the most rural farmer in Korea can get broadband if they want to.
Good thing the free-market maniac, no-such-thing-as-market-failure, Heritage Foundation types weren't around in the 1950's: we'd have no Interstate Highway system. I know alot of them would argue that we should have a network of privately owned, privately built toll roads instead. Anything goverment does turns out bad, you know. | |
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That's what the people of the world dont like about us: our arrogance. We have been fat and happy for so long we take it for granted (hell, even our poor on welfare have shelter, food, water, clothing, electricity, protection of the law...) and think everyone should be just like us. Well, they're not, pilgrim and they never will be. Better get used to it. They may like western goodies, but many of the worlds cultures have been around for thousands of years. I doubt they will want to be like us any time soon. | |
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Pleasant Grove, UT | Population density is NOT an excuse I believe one of the primary reasons the United States is now #16 in the world in broadband penetration, and likely to drop further, is that the incumbents who benefit from broadband scarcity are blocking the efforts of communities to organize and build their own broadband networks through public/private partnerships.
While South Korea and Japan are certainly more dense than the United States, Canada is dramatically LESS dense than the United States -- and Canada is 5th in the world in broadband penetration. Furthermore, both Sweden and Finland are ahead of the United States also, and I don't believe either of them are very dense.
Furthermore, both India and China are building broadband infrastructure at an astonishing rate, and aren't sitting around trying to decide if government involvement is "unfair" competition.
According to a recent best selling book, "The World is Flat", accountants in India using real broadband did 25,000 US tax returns in 2003, 100,000 in 2004, and are expected to do 400,000 in 2005. By 2010, they will do over half the tax returns in the USA -- if workers in the USA don't move up the food chain, they'll be lucky to get fast food jobs -- which are also starting to be out sourced. | |
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Santa Clara, CA | woooooohoooooo We're 16th and dropping fast. I guess the consumer doesnt want faster speed to browse all those hotties | |
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1 edit | What about dialup Broadband penetration doesn't mean sh!t. There are people plenty content with dialup. I'd be interested in statistics showing percentage of households with internet service, whether dialup or broadband.
This isn't a matter of deployment failures but simply a byproduct of disinterest.
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| Re: What about dialup said by oliphant:Broadband penetration doesn't mean sh!t. There are people plenty content with dialup. I'd be interested in statistics showing percentage of households with internet service, whether dialup or broadband. This isn't a matter of deployment failures but simply a byproduct of disinterest. Look at selected stats from here, especially the one regarding access to a computer. That is more telling I believe - household access to a home computer - than the others. Another table will show total internet access - and the US is not doing badly there with 50% just for 2001 (no other figures available).
But without access to a home computer then obviously there is not going to be internet connectivity there until they purchase one(leaving aside WebTV).
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Exactly so. The underlying premise of broadband is that people are going to want to pay for "premium" services, such as streaming movies (I bet it would be interesting to see how many of Comcasts customers even use "On Demand", or, have "Premium" channels like HBO). Most people I know who have cable, only have the "Extended" teir of the usual suspect channels and dont even watch half of them, let alone have the endless repeaters like HBO, SHO, etc. Why? Because it costs too much for their needs.
Same for internet access. It is only recently that broadband has come down in price to what many consider "Reasonable"-around $25 a month for DSL and providers still want to rip you off for faster service. For example: I can get comcast 4Mb service here for $42 because I have cable TV. But then, I can get SBC 1.5 Mb DSL for $19.95 which suits my needs. Which do you think I chose? Up till then, I was on dialup for 6 years because it was the lower priced alternitive.
Another example of this type of thing is cellphone service. I have had a cell for years. 6 Years ago I got a "local" plan for 250 minutes at $19.95. now, that same plan, with "Unlimited night and weekend" minutes is $29.95 and you cant get new plans for less than $39.95. Yet we're told prices havre gone down. The excuse, of course, is that now you have fancy phones with cameras-another useless, fluff "feature" and text messaging and internet access-Really, do you really NEED internet access, at extra cost, from your cellphone?
This is the standard US marketing ploy that they all use: Keep adding speed or so called "features" so you can say the same old basic thing is "New and improved". Then, you can keep your prices up and cast the impression that you are moving ahead when you're really not and the suckers will pay, especially when you require a contract which gives you all the power and the customer gets jack.
Same goes for broadband. They give you dribs and drabs and the occasional deal-But you have to sign that contract that says they can raise the price on you and change your service at their sole discretion. I bet most of you didn't even bother to read your providers TOS, did you?
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1 edit | The system has failed I know I'm going to get flamed for this, but I'm going to say it anyway. This is just a sign of things to come. The United States is falling behind in everything. We are not the world leader anymore. We as Americans in general are very uneducated and arrogant. I honestly feel that it is too late for our country. As one of my favorite musicians says, "The system has failed". I sadly believe he is right. | |
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Little Rock, AR | Re: The system has failed We'll have a good run for the next 50-75 years or so, if for inertia alone, I mean, just look at Russia, it has still not wasted what's Soviet Union built up since only 1950's, and it's been actively destroying its own economy and way of life for 20 years now, but I tend to agree that unless there's a fundamental change in our "#1" mentality and general ignorance, we're f**cked. | |
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| TransmasterDon't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
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Cheyenne, WY
1 edit | said by WeSRT4:We as Americans in general are very uneducated and arrogant. In My experience the French are the most arrogant SOB's I know, they think they poop perfume. It is so fun the tease them. We have the best wine, our cuisine is far more diverse then theirs, etc. Point this out and watch a frog squirm.:D
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| | | You are the first American I've seen, that seems to have a clue about America and Americans.
The majority of Americans have a "we are nr1 and the world envies us" mentality. If some of those people travel the world and see for themselves how backwards America is compared to many other countries in the planet, it would be a good wake up call. | |
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| | stuck on dialup 90 miles north of NY City We still stuck on dialup less than 90 miles north of NY City in New York State. There is no broadband available here despite the taxes we pay.
Time Warner Cable who holds the franchise wants over $26,000 to install cable
to my house. That's rediculous, I've been fighting them for
5 years. Read all about it at:
»[TWC] [TWC] wants wants to charge me $25,000 for RR
And DSL is not available. Verizon does not supply DSL to this phone exchange
I put up a sign on the road near my house: Time Warner Sucks
USA sucks for broadband
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Baton Rouge, LA | It is the future Broadband is the future and will be the defining technology that seperates countries in terms of global position. If we want to be better and not be left behind.... We better get on the ball and soon! It may be too late already. Following the money is good for those few who profit the most in this country but it is overall bad for the U.S. and will impact us negatively if not changed. | |
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| Titus PulloI came, I saw, I slept
join:2004-06-26
kudos:1 Reviews:
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| Re: It is the future The industry is only interested in rapacious profit and your Govt would rather you NOT have access to un-filtered information. An ignorant populace is a blissful populace.
Now, do yourselves a favor and read up on Peak Oil.
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