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|  baineschile2600 ways to livePremium
join:2008-05-10
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1 edit | To everyone who thought that ATT and VZ would lower cable prices Ha. Ha.
We can simply blame the NFL and the rest of the sports networks, that create their own "sub networks" (espn 3, espn classic, nfl network, big ten network, etc) buy games that people want to see, then gouge the providers in their prices.
P.S. A friend of mine has UVerse that does a lot of torrent download. He claims that when he turns on the TV, the internet speeds are cut in half. Anyone else facing this problem?
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| | | | | Re: To everyone who thought that ATT and VZ would lower cable pr From a sales flyer that AT&T mailed to me today, "Many factors can affect actual speeds. U-verse customers may experience a temporary speed reduction when the use of other U-verse services consumes otherwise available bandwidth."
LOL. Your TV is slowing down your Internet. Try not to watch so much HD! | |
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| |  berumte
join:2005-04-15
Missouri City, TX | I've had U-Verse for 9 months and can't say I've seen my DL speeds drop when the TVs are on. I pay for 18 down and 1.5 up, their highest tier, and use the U200 telly package. My 2 always-on boxes are wired to the gateway with 3 other family PCs on wireless. I torrent heavily -- mostly telly shows. Often my torrenting slows the wireless connections, but I've never noticed a slowdown from telly usage, which is normally one standard and one HD running concurrently.
Interestingly, I upg'd to the 18 (from 10kbps?) just before Thanksgiving, but I've not seen any difference for my extra $10 per month. | |
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| | Thinking of switching to Uverse I'm paying $130 for the cox bundle now and I want to pay less. Been thinking of switching to Uverse, but it isn't much cheaper. | |
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| | | Re: Thinking of switching to Uverse I was thinking of getting U-Verse within the next couple of months, but this rate hike making me think twice.
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maybe the service just isn't that good for the tv service vs the package price.
SURE GLAD I got rid of mine after only 1 week, I'll stay with DorecTV,
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join:2008-08-12
Rochester, MI | What crap. They reach their goal of 1 million subscribers before the end of the year, and the money hungry big wigs now want to make more profit. | |
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|  CylonRedPremium,MVM
join:2000-07-06
Bloom County | Re: What crap. Probably because they were either not making money at all or losing in order to get enough initial customers. Once the initial numbers were met - price hikes to finally make a profit.
SOP for these types of services... | |
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1 edit | wow~ I'm glad I dropped U-verse. When it first came out they were far cheaper than Comcast but now Comcast has better deals than U-verse does. I get 16/2, unlimited calling throughout the continent, and all the channels I like to watch for like 115 a month. And Comcast here doesn't charge you for HD service... you only have to rent a HD cablebox. Comcast is fairly competitive and having U-verse in the area helped drop Comcast's prices here.
With DOCSIS 3 coming I can expect much faster internet speeds. I doubt U-verse will go over 18/1.5 anytime soon. | |
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|  ropeguruPremium
join:2001-01-25
Mechanicsville, VA | Re: wow~ Are you sure that isn't promotional pricing that will go up in a year? | |
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| | The price is only going to climb The time is so primed for someont to come up with real online content. The telcos and cable companies are going to continue raising rates substantially over the next 3 years (where else are you going to get your tv and internet?) Netflix and Xbox 360 is proving that the technology is there. I havent seen apple TV but maybe thats it. But I can't wait for someone to make a nice online package where you turn the channel with a mouse. You will still have to go through the cable or telco for the internet access but it's a step in the right direction.
The cable and telcos have spent millions in advertising telling us that "bundling" is a good thing. It's NOT! | |
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|  KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK | Re: Well isn't that peachy Lack of competition. Because they can... and because the economy is hurting their stock prices, and so they want to prop up the prices with extra revenue.... so they raise prices to consumers.
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| fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
join:2005-05-20
kudos:3 | said by TigerNutz:Someone xplain this to me, when the economy is deep in the toilet why would a company raise rates? Makes no sense but it is AT$T we are talking about here....  Do the math...
They do a small price increase across the board to all affected customers. The gain from that price increase will offset any loss of customers that ditch the service for another provider.
Not everyone will leave and not everyone will cut but; not enough to even offset the increased sales. In an economic downturn, more people are going to stay home and entertain there rather than go out and spend money. The gamble of raising prices in a slow economy is a good one for any business in this position, actually.
Further, for every customer that DOES drop, that's just that many less customers they will likely have to support as well.
To be honest, its a win win for both cable and telephone. Where you will see a sign of trouble is when deep discounts come out to NEW customers only, not existing customers. | |
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join:2004-02-21
Lakewood, OH | thats great The price increases i may be up to face (or someone new). $10 now for the hd tier (used to be free), $5 increase on U200 package, DVR no longer free but costing $9, 2 stb's costing $7+$7.
$10
$5
$9
$7
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a $38 increase from the price the were offering a year ago until now. All these numbers exclude tax to make it easier.
I pay $89 now (U200 1 dvr 2 stb 6mb internet)with an increase of $38 to now $127. That is a 42% increase in one year when they vow not to increase prices but don't lock price in with a contract.
Now I am not sure how many of these new prices will effect me until next month but the cost for a new customer from a year ago is staggering. The satellites are looking cheap now. | |
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| | | Re: thats great said by jgkolt:The price increases i may be up to face (or someone new). $10 now for the hd tier (used to be free), $5 increase on U200 package, DVR no longer free but costing $9, 2 stb's costing $7+$7. $10 $5 $9 $7 $7 a $38 increase from the price the were offering a year ago until now. All these numbers exclude tax to make it easier. I pay $89 now (U200 1 dvr 2 stb 6mb internet)with an increase of $38 to now $127. That is a 42% increase in one year when they vow not to increase prices but don't lock price in with a contract. Now I am not sure how many of these new prices will effect me until next month but the cost for a new customer from a year ago is staggering. The satellites are looking cheap now. HD service was never free. It has always been a $10 charge. Don't know where that came from unless you specifically got some kind of deal.
As for the DVR, AFAIK, it is still included with the majority of their packages, like U200, U300 and U400 and even the UFamily. | |
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join:2004-02-21
Lakewood, OH | Re: thats great the HD service was free when i signed up a year ago. | |
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| | | | | Re: thats great said by jgkolt:the HD service was free when i signed up a year ago. That was just a promotional offer, similar to the one I got when I got UV over a year ago. I got the Movie Package free for a year, so I wouldn't include that as an actual price increase, per se.  | |
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| KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK | I'd dare say AT&T is beating the Cable Company at their own game of rate/price increases.
Since they introduced Uverse, they have had a slew of them. Multiple times a year.
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| |  NightfallMy Goal Is To Deny YoursPremium,MVM
join:2001-08-03
Grand Rapids, MI
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| Re: Seems that all providers are raising their rates. said by KrK:I'd dare say AT&T is beating the Cable Company at their own game of rate/price increases. Since they introduced Uverse, they have had a slew of them. Multiple times a year. Would be nice to see a comparison as to the price increases of each service and how much they have gone up respectively in a percentage over the last 5 years or so. | |
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| | | KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK | Re: Seems that all providers are raising their rates. Uverse has only been around one year, but according to another poster who was an early adopter, the price paid total has increased 42%. In one year.
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join:2001-08-03
Grand Rapids, MI Reviews:
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| Re: Seems that all providers are raising their rates. said by KrK:Uverse has only been around one year, but according to another poster who was an early adopter, the price paid total has increased 42%. In one year. I don't know off the top of my head how much the prices have increased, but that number seems a little high to me. Still the rest of the providers have been around for a long time and they could be measured accurately by the price increases. | |
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| | | Thanks for the link to Directv price hike. I Wasn't aware of this. Just when I was about to switch to Uverse from them, now it appears both are raising prices.
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| | NightfallMy Goal Is To Deny YoursPremium,MVM
join:2001-08-03
Grand Rapids, MI Reviews:
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| Re: Seems that all providers are raising their rates. said by TF2:Thanks for the link to Directv price hike. I Wasn't aware of this. Just when I was about to switch to Uverse from them, now it appears both are raising prices. This is why it is important to go with a provider that benefits you the most. To me, HD is important to me so I pay for the best HD provider for my needs which is Directv. Unless the price gets crazy, I will be staying with them for a while. | |
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| | | $hit can your cable/sat service and read. Sports players and actors make way too much money for mediocre performance. | |
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 jmn1207Premium
join:2000-07-19
Ashburn, VA
kudos:1 | Show Me the Money! I'd like to see data showing how the money is changing in all parties.
Is AT&T making a bigger profit, are they staying level, or are they actually losing money and simply attempting to reduce their losses?
Are the content providers just being greedy and trying to make a few extra dollars? Are advertisers not paying as much to the content providers because they are losing money? In turn, are content providers trying to stay level or are they, too, losing money and simply trying to minimize their losses?
Is it the talent (actors/writers) that is increasing their profits, causing a similar reaction from the content providers?
I don't need specifics, just averages, and I would be able to tell which party was making an increase or decrease by percentage. Who is losing money and who is making money? Do we blame Tom Cruise and the writers for Saturday Night Live? Is it Disney or some other media giant behind these price increases? Is this just AT&T raising prices to cover the cost of improving the services and infrastructure?
Since everyone always seems to blame the other guy, I suspect that everyone is taking a piece of the pie, except the customer. Regardless if the increases are used to generate pure profits, to keep an even keel, or to soften the blow from an economic downturn, everyone is making more money except the customer. | |
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|  jsz0Premium
join:2008-01-23
Jewett City, CT | Re: Show Me the Money! It's a lot of things...
The cost of producing programming is going up
TV advertising is on a decline (local & national)
Viewership is down in favor of Internet, video games, DVD
So the programmers are increasing rates across the board.
They're losing landline customers hand over fist
They're losing highly profitable business data circuits (leased lines, frame relay, T1, ISDN, etc)
They're losing out to cable for consumer broadband
They're spending a ton of money to deploy U-Verse service
I'm actually surprised the rate hikes aren't higher. | |
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| | | said by jmn1207:I'd like to see data showing how the money is changing in all parties. You are making things far too complicated. Entertainment pricing at the consumer level is primarily discretionary, it is not based on cost.
As long as the cable/telco/sat companies have data to show that they will make more money by raising prices (and they do), they will raise prices. The content providers know that, so they in turn want their slice to increase as well.
Here's an easy example: If ESPN lowered their monthly per subscriber fee from $3/month to $1/month, would you see any reduction in your monthly cable bill? Your cable company would just point to any one of a million other reasons for keeping rates as they are or raising them again.
The only way to stop rate increases is to change the game. Netflix,OTA, etc... | |
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Tell me, where is sanity? | |
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join:2005-03-10
Whittier, AK |  Competition will lower prices I swear.
Any city council member that rehashes a similar statement should get a swift kick in the nuts.
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join:2006-07-03
Waterford, CT | That's just great! Wonderful, just wonderful! This is just what I wanted to hear, with the economy the way it is, and the electricity rates about to go up AGAIN!  | |
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KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK | AT&T: Putting the CON into CONsumer So why did they deserve those statewide franchises again? They said of course to provide competition and lower prices....
... And we believed that. No seriously, we didn't. The politicians always buy it though.
AT&T U-Verse looks to be more expensive then Cox Cable, now.
I'm sure they'll carefully keep prices in Lockstep....
Guess I'll give up on Uverse. Dish Network's TurboHD sounds better and better every day....
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It's time now to go to the State and tell them this isn't doing anything but raising prices. It's time to take ATT's state wide video law away from them and make them compete like Cable companies do. Oops. I forgot in Ohio ATT is considered a cable company. | |
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| | TV Cost Here is the big catch, it cost a hell of alot more of money to provide a TV channel or channels or any programming which drives these cost.
A company has to pay for the rights to distribute the channels as well as pay for the infrastructure and what not.
Cable Co's did the right thing going into telco business. For every TV cust they actually are off set by taking a phone customer. Less expenses involved when managing phone over TV.. | |
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| | u-verse and the competition I've had U-verse service in the greater detroit area for almost 9 months now and since then Comcast has actually dropped their "introductory" rate by $30 to compete with ATT. I know that Comcast has lost a considerable amount of business to ATT in this area as almost all of my neighbors have switched. The triple pak from Comcast with HD used to be $115, then $99, now $79 for 12 months. When we signed with ATT we were guaranteed $99 pricing for as long as we keep the service with none of the bait and switch "introductory" shenanigans. I guess we'll wait and see if they try to bump our bill, but we've ben very happy with their service so far. They're far and above Comcast with service, pricing, and product. | |
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