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Los Angeles, CA | Come and get me I hope Colonel realizes how bad of pr this will be the second it hits the news.
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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Mount Airy, MD
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| Illegal in the USA The military is forbidden by the Posse Comitatus Act from taking action against US citizens within US territory.
But if you're outside the USA... watch out. 
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N3OGH
Bear patrol must be working like a charm
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Philly burbs
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| Re: Illegal in the USA Well I'd piss on the damn spark plug if I thought it would work!
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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| Re: Illegal in the USA said by N3OGH  :Well I'd piss on the damn spark plug if I thought it would work! I'll have to keep that in my list of canned replies. 
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The Folsom
Kindly Shut Your Noise Hole.
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join:2003-01-31
Yucaipa, CA
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| said by N3OGH :Well I'd piss on the damn spark plug if I thought it would work! "How about a nice game of chess?"
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join:2003-03-20
USA | Re: Illegal in the USA I got a better one. Same character.
"After very careful consideration I have come to the conclusion that your 'new defense system' sucks." | |
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The Folsom
Kindly Shut Your Noise Hole.
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join:2003-01-31
Yucaipa, CA
·Verizon FIOS
| Re: Illegal in the USA said by colorbars :I got a better one. Same character. "After very careful consideration I have come to the conclusion that your 'new defense system' sucks." "I don't have to take that from you, you pig-eyed sack of shit!" 
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RailRoadDude
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Redwood Valley, CA
·Comcast
| said by The Folsom :said by N3OGH :Well I'd piss on the damn spark plug if I thought it would work! "How about a nice game of chess?" No, Global Thermonuclear War
Fine...Choose your side
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hahano
@suddenlink.net
| That is incorrect. Posse Comitatus simply prevents the military from acting as the police and it doesn't apply to the coast guard or the national guard. The majority of limitations imposed on the armed forces by Posse Comitatus were removed with the patriot act. | |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast
| Re: Illegal in the USA said by hahano :
That is incorrect. Posse Comitatus simply prevents the military from acting as the police and it doesn't apply to the coast guard or the national guard. Except for the fact that punishing US citizens for breaking the law is a task that is exclusively delegated to civilian police forces. The military going after someone with a malware-infected computer that is engaged in illegal activities definitely crosses that line.
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join:2008-06-04
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| Re: Illegal in the USA [BQUOTE=UnKown
Also in the oath taken by all military members you do state that you will defend this nation against all enemies foreign and domestic.
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Does not. It says you'll defend the Constitution, not the nation. The idea is what you swear to defend, not the people, not the buildings, not the land. | |
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Forward, March
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Happy Camp
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| said by pnh102 :Except for the fact that punishing US citizens for breaking the law is a task that is exclusively delegated to civilian police forces. Actually, the courts are the ones that "punish" law-breakers, not the police forces.
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join:2002-06-14
Independence, OH
| Except when enforcing Federal drug laws, federal racketeering laws, or apprehending Federal fugitives.
The Posse Comitatus Act only pertains to the military providing assistance in enforcement of state law. Even then, any U.S. citizen can apprehend a felon just as long as they are not using cannons or tanks. | |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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| Re: Illegal in the USA said by mc5w :Except when enforcing Federal drug laws, federal racketeering laws, or apprehending Federal fugitives. I don't seem to remember any cases of the US military being involved in these cases domestically. How often does it happen?
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Tomek
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Brooklyn, NY | Military has policy to fight enemy, foreign or domestic.
But yeah botnets are an issue, especially those outside of US control. | |
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Maggs
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Woodside, NY | Posse Comitatus is no longer in force. Bush did away with it. | |
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TSI Gabe
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Chatham, ON | lol Let the BotNet wars begin! | |
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Simba7
join:2003-03-24
Billings, MT
3 edits | Ahh.. I'm glad I didn't join the AF. Sure, there's a bunch of smart people there, but sometimes a few get a little power hungry.
You won't see the Navy pulling this sh*t.
EDIT: Although we did create the Tor Project. Hmm.. »www.onion-router.net/ | |
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join:2000-08-16
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| Re: Ahh.. said by Simba7 :I'm glad I didn't join the AF. Sure, there's a bunch of smart people there, but sometimes a few get a little power hungry. You won't see the Navy pulling this sh*t. EDIT: Although we did create the Tor Project. Hmm.. » www.onion-router.net/ That's right. The Office of Naval Intelligence is too busy fomenting right wing takeovers of fledgling democracies, unfriendly regimes and usurping the rights of whole peoples to be free from the economic yokes imposed upon them by American-based global imperialist corporate interests. Or, do you not recall the modern histories of Chile, Salvador, Nicaragua, Venezuela, Argentina, Iran, Congo, etc. ad infinitum? | |
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UnKown
The Underground Network
join:2002-09-08
Orlando, FL | yup the navy enjoys being attacked, especially from the rear. | |
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join:2000-10-05
Collegeville, PA
| Re: Ahh.. said by UnKown :yup the navy enjoys being attacked, especially from the rear. That's the British navy -- they like rum and the lash as well. | |
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screavic
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Paron, AR
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| Agree with... I agree with the walled garden part, send the customer a letter IN the mail and have it pop up and say something about you having a "bad virus" and try to see what it is so the customer can act.
I know alot of people just don't know they have a virus, trust me, they don't want it as much as we don't want it spreading it's "goodness".
I know this can be done cause you can use opendns.com and see some viruses. | |
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TSI Gabe
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Chatham, ON | Re: Agree with... Didn't the Terminator movie come out today? Skynet anyone?  | |
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screavic
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Paron, AR | Re: Agree with... 21 May 2009
Yeah I always think of that when I hear of "more smart computing" going on lol.
Who wouldn't want to hate us humans I know alot of animals do haha | |
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join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX | Re: Agree with... your not suppost to know about that
the matrix/skynet alliance forbids you | |
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Mephisto13
join:2008-05-16
Gatineau, QC | said by TSI Gabe :Skynet anyone? My thoughts exactly. | |
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screavic
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Paron, AR
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1 edit | Re: Agree with... Be funny is to get a security box that blocks all traffic from them hehehaha. Then they would have to figure out a way around it... "Oh it quit responding it must be down... Good Job guys good job!"
What if the ISP has DOS (Denial of Service) equipment to help preserve their bandwidth? This can be a big waste of government money.... as usual. | |
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Elf Wizard
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Mullica Hill, NJ | funny would be is if the bandwidth carriers for the government shut them off for abuse.
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winsyrstrife
River City Bounce
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clubs: | Nice picture, but Karl, that picture is the end result of using Windows ME, military attack or not.
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jjoshua
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Scotch Plains, NJ | What are they going to do? Spike them!
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Re: What are they going to do? That was the corniest one ever.
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Hpower
Roflmao
join:2000-06-08
Glendale, CA
1 edit | lol rofl this is just stupid. Our governement is just getting dumber everyday. But yes, I'd say take down damn win me machines by all means lol.
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join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX | Re: lol yes Win ME machines are the devil
upgrade them to win2k | |
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mobbo
join:2005-04-13
Denton, TX | You know what that means... Terrorism = Outdated AV definitions
Makes PERFECT sense to me! | |
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join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX | Re: You know what that means... agreed
windows ME = Terrorism too | |
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SLD
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1 edit | Re: You know what that means... Can you waste ANY more time writing drivel today? | |
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join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX | Re: You know what that means... have you used WinME?
I did for a few hours long ago that OS was a total mistake (similer to but to a greater extent like Vista)
think of the poor Geek Squad peeople that will be confused when they see WinME | |
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jmn1207
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Reston, VA
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| Re: I half agree While I do use all sorts of security software for layered protection, I have also used some computers for years with absolutely no anti-virus software installed on them. There are other ways to protect your computer. Security software certainly has its uses for many situations, but in all honesty, I have had more problems with the security software, itself, than any virus or trojan has ever caused.
For me, it all depends on what the computer is being used to do and how valuable the data might be.
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Millenniumle
join:2007-11-11
Fredonia, NY
| ... One wonders how Charlie hopes to determine whether one has installed "anti-virus software" and "the latest security patches?"
I think what Charlie really wants is the offensive ability, regardless. Presumably military control of all internet access.
No thanks! | |
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Super Joe
join:2004-01-21
Gurnee, IL | Re: ... 
Presumably? Hah. Hah.. | |
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rdmiller
join:2005-09-23
Richmond, VA | Can I see some ID? Some of Charlie's comments are a little over the top. Where exactly did the BBC find this guy? | |
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Simba7
join:2003-03-24
Billings, MT
| Windows ME still running? That's amazing.. Windows ME still running after 3 weeks.
I remember reloading every 2 weeks on my laptop, and I couldn't upgrade to Win2K (or XP) because the internal modem wasn't supported. Fsckin' Compaq.
Any computer I bump into that is running ME I highly suggest upgrading to 2K or XP. I'm sure I could find donor keys to help the effort.
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rcdailey
Dragoonfly
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join:2005-03-29
Rialto, CA
| Re: Windows ME still running? The first question will be: Will this computer run XP or W2K? Memory upgrades may not practical, depending on the motherboard and BIOS. With computers as cheap as they are now, it will likely be less costly to just get a refurb from TigerDirect or another outlet. Then, you have said bye-bye to Windows ME. Send the hardware to the e-cyclers. | |
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| lol, of course ME still run's, i have a 9 year old ibm thinkpad i series 1400 w/ ME on it & yes, it still rocks. i guess it just depends on how literate you really are when it comes to keeping something running correctly. btw, we also have 1 w95 & 2-98's up on the same network as our 2k, xp & vista machines. 7 machines total. i just had to have one for each room in the house. | |
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cpsycho
join:2008-06-03
Orangeville, ON
·Wightman Telecom
·Rogers Hi-Speed
| HAHAHA Let the cyber wars begin.
Nerd in mothers basement notice someone trying to access his network. Then he attacks offending network.
At the air force base.
Nerd:"Sir we have a problem".
Commander:"whats that".
Nerd:"We just lost control of our mainframe".
Commander: "get it back".
Nerd: "I cant im locked out as windows admin now. He has also changed my desktop to; HA HA I PWN'D YOU NOOB".
Commanader: "I thought you had the latest patches and norton anti virus instaled".
Nerd: "I did". | |
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join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX | Re: HAHAHA lol it'll be so funny and sad at the same time | |
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DeeplyShrouded
@comcast.net
| Wouldn't it violate several laws? OK let's say the Air Force thinks my computer is infected
with a virus. They go by the IP address I just got when I
rebooted my modem. Let's say for instance, that the person
who had the ip address before me was infected.
So now the Air Force is going to "attack" my computer?
First off, that is so laughable, it's doggone funny.
The military spends billions of dollars of taxpayer money,
yet it can't find Bin-Laden and it wants to attack so-called
"infected" computers? How about taking your military
crap off the public internet and putting it on your own
internal non-public accessible network where it should be in
the first place? I heard years ago about something called
Internet2 which was supposed to be for education only.
Well, if universities can have their own version of the
internet, then why can't the military?
If I use my programming and hacking skills to access a
computer that doesn't belong to me, I'd probably be tried,
convicted, fined, thrown in jail, and given a police record.
If the military does it, it's OK? What bullcrap is that?
How about an OS that actually pops up a system window that
says, "A software program called [PROGRAM NAME] is asking
for permission to be installed. Should it be installed?"
Plain English, so those who are not as proficient in
computers (Auntie or Grandma for instance) will know, if
such a window pops up and they weren't installing anything
at the time, know that they should click NO.
How about the ability to block all IP addresses except for
only those sites you trust? Hell, I live in the USA,
why would I want my machine to be open to port scanning
by some dickhead in Nigeria looking for a way to scam
their next victim? Makes me think the younger generation
has no common sense anymore.....
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join:2007-12-27
Columbus, OH
clubs: | Re: Wouldn't it violate several laws? Easy Fix Civilian, Join the Military, then you wouldent get in trouble! | |
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join:2001-12-05
Chicago, IL | Re: Wouldn't it violate several laws? nah, just kill them before they kill you... | |
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mastervirus
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join:2004-07-05
North Charleston, SC
clubs:
| if the old ip address was then issued to you and you were not attacking them they would just log it and continue from there but i dont agree with them trying to be able to crush any box they "say" is BAD but there really isnt anything we are going to be able to do but encrypt info patch and inform others. | |
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packetscan
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join:2004-10-19
Bridgeport, CT
clubs: | Isp Intergration If they want the ability to "take out" computers work with the isps to brick modems when needed.
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join:2008-04-06
Hubbard, OR
| Re: Isp Intergration Don't worry. O-6 Williamson is just a lawyer who couldn't make in in the civilian world:
COL. CHARLES W. (CHARLIE) WILLIAMSON III is the staff judge advocate, Air Force Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance Agency, at Lackland Air Force Base, Texas. He has served as a flight test manager for small, air-breathing missiles; as a judge advocate at two base-level legal offices; as a staff judge advocate for two base-level legal offices; and as the first staff judge advocate for the Joint Task Force-Computer Network Operations. The views expressed here are the author’s own and do not necessarily reflect those of the Air Force or Defense Department. | |
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join:2005-06-03
Bedford, MA | gunships More likely they would send in a helicopter gunship and start shooting. | |
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Uh, Mom? The Air Force Just Attacked Our PC
