  r81984Fair and BalancedPremium
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Katy, TX | Lame If they are using VOIP then all they have is a data only plan which for $70 is too expensive.
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Camden, TN | Re: Lame said by r81984:If they are using VOIP then all they have is a data only plan which for $70 is too expensive. Well if youa re like some of my friends that lvie wher youcnan oly get satellite or EDVO both of which are the same price but have caps this might actually be an alternative. This for $70 or Verizon EDVO for $60 but with a 5 GB cap and $256 per GB overgae fee. which is better? | |
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| Can you get a data only plan using a phone from the major carriers (and not a PC card or something?) Maybe you can, I dunno..
Anyway, as the drunk guy said, everyone else has a 5GB limit on their "unlimited" data plans.
Ignoring the 5GB limit.. a Data Connect plan from AT&T is $60. A tether-capable plan is $65. Add the price of a skype plan + phone number and you're at $70.
If it wasn't on the AT&T network (which has horrid coverage around me) I'd probably jump on this. | |
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| | | Not if it is unlimited and you can "talk" to people by using it. Er, wait... You've got something going there... All these plans are too expensive! 8-) | |
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join:2002-03-03
USA
kudos:4 |  I see an AT&T lawsuit coming very soon
The phones run on GSM networks including AT&T's and T-Mobile's. But Zer01 isn't buying time wholesale from AT&T and T-Mobile, Piilani said. Instead, they have purchased their own IP backbone and are using interconnect (AKA roaming) agreements, the way Verizon and Sprint phones work on each other's networks.
By using interconnect agreements, Zer01 can get around the carriers' 5GB/month data caps and offer truly unlimited data, Piilani said. I just don't see AT&T sitting still for this company's customers running unlimited data over the AT&T network and the company paying minimal fees to AT&T. I see a lengthy lawsuit in their immediate future.
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|  eliasPremium,VIP
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Miami, FL | Re: I see an AT&T lawsuit coming very soon said by Romney2012:I just don't see AT&T sitting still for this company's customers running unlimited data over the AT&T network and the company paying minimal fees to AT&T. I see a lengthy lawsuit in their immediate future. RTFA...
said by »www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2342994,00.asp :The phones run on GSM networks including AT&T's and T-Mobile's. But Zer01 isn't buying time wholesale from AT&T and T-Mobile, Piilani said. Instead, they have purchased their own IP backbone and are using interconnect (AKA roaming) agreements, the way Verizon and Sprint phones work on each other's networks. Each device on the Zer01 network gets a fixed IP address and opens a VPN tunnel to the company's servers, Piilani said. "It's our own VPN, and we're actually providing the data the customer is using," Piilani said. By using interconnect agreements, Zer01 can get around the carriers' 5GB/month data caps and offer truly unlimited data, Piilani said. The company's system does some traffic management to make sure that heavy users don't overload a local cellular system.
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| | Romney2012Defeat Obama 2012-Chg we can believe inPremium
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kudos:4 | Re: I see an AT&T lawsuit coming very soon said by elias:said by Romney2012:I just don't see AT&T sitting still for this company's customers running unlimited data over the AT&T network and the company paying minimal fees to AT&T. I see a lengthy lawsuit in their immediate future. RTFA... said by »www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2342994,00.asp :The phones run on GSM networks including AT&T's and T-Mobile's. But Zer01 isn't buying time wholesale from AT&T and T-Mobile, Piilani said. Instead, they have purchased their own IP backbone and are using interconnect (AKA roaming) agreements, the way Verizon and Sprint phones work on each other's networks. Each device on the Zer01 network gets a fixed IP address and opens a VPN tunnel to the company's servers, Piilani said. "It's our own VPN, and we're actually providing the data the customer is using," Piilani said. By using interconnect agreements, Zer01 can get around the carriers' 5GB/month data caps and offer truly unlimited data, Piilani said. The company's system does some traffic management to make sure that heavy users don't overload a local cellular system. I read the article wise guy. But maybe you don't understand how AT&T will respond. The method that Zer01 is using results in less income and higher costs to AT&T. Some companies tried to use interconnect agreements once before for those free conference calls and used the revenue splits to stiff AT&T. It was within the regulations, but AT&T and other carriers just shut them down anyway.
»gigaom.com/2007/02/07/atts-free-···million/
»gigaom.com/2007/03/15/cingular-q···e-calls/
So, I don't expect AT&T to sit by idly without doing something to cripple it or get more money out of it.
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| | | eliasPremium,VIP
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Miami, FL | Re: I see an AT&T lawsuit coming very soon The links you posted relate to call termination fraud. Call termination fraud doesn't require a relationship before the fact, the telco just sends a nice bill for call termination.
I would imagine these Zer01 people aren't doing this under AT&T's nose, especially since they went through the process of becoming an MVNO under them.
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| | | |  FBGuyyippee ki yayPremium
join:2005-03-19 | Re: I see an AT&T lawsuit coming very soon yea that case that AT&T made back in the day is different than this one. | |
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| said by Romney2012:The phones run on GSM networks including AT&T's and T-Mobile's. But Zer01 isn't buying time wholesale from AT&T and T-Mobile, Piilani said. Instead, they have purchased their own IP backbone and are using interconnect (AKA roaming) agreements, the way Verizon and Sprint phones work on each other's networks.
By using interconnect agreements, Zer01 can get around the carriers' 5GB/month data caps and offer truly unlimited data, Piilani said. I just don't see AT&T sitting still for this company's customers running unlimited data over the AT&T network and the company paying minimal fees to AT&T. I see a lengthy lawsuit in their immediate future. They are probably paying by-the-byte, so why should AT&T care?
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Denton, TX | Maybe they are doing like what "unlimited" webhosts do... buy a big block of transfer and gamble on the fact that most people will only use a small amount and cancel out the big/power users. If this company pays by the byte or has purchased a large block of data usage, ya they'll be screwed if the only people who sign up are power users, but if they get a balance of casual users and power users, I can see this being beneficial to all parties.
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join:2008-01-29
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kudos:1 |  Wait!
 Come back in a year and see if they are still here! Remember Amp'd Mobile! | |
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join:2002-04-05
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kudos:1 | Re: Wait! No.
Just "fade to black". | |
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| | | i should have asked if anyone bought out Amp'd Mobile as in their customers and debit? | |
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| | | | | Re: Wait! me either thats why i was asking. I still see signs for their service when driving by Wireless Toyz buy I see signs for Helio too. | |
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kudos:4 | How many Gigs is this ones "unlimited" plan? | |
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| 3rd party competition in wireless, go figure.. Why is it that 3rd party carriers will provide what the major carrier's wont?
This seems to be a trend.. first we have prepaid companies reselling airtime dirt cheap and now reselling unlimited calling & lite wireless broadband.
Wireless broadband will be a hard sell in areas such as NY metro where wifi networks ooze free broadband like free air to breathe. I believe the technology still has at least ONE or TWO more generations of upgrades to go to finally achieve capacity & speeds necessary to replace cablemodem, dsl & fiber wired connections.
Also, $70 is still too high a price... my expectation is that unlimited calling and data will hit $50 (no taxes & fees added) sometime soon-- so it can act as a replacement for wired connections & you can tether to a home network &/or your laptop/portable devices. | |
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| | | Re: 3rd party competition in wireless, go figure.. just look at boost mobile
50 bucks unlimited every thing
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Brooklyn, NY | Re: 3rd party competition in wireless, go figure.. said by anon1 :
just look at boost mobile
50 bucks unlimited every thing
lol
all of these other companys are just a joke
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Actually they did. Their rates were better than Verizon and they offered more high tech services. They were an MVNO on the Verizon Network. Unfortunately their customers did not pay their bills in a timely manor and they ran out of money. They would have probably have been successful if they had been stimulated. I would have been an Amp'd Mobile customer but they did not have any local numbers in this area for incoming calls from my land line.
Amp'd Mobile posted a notice when Verizon would cut off their customers. Shortly thereafter Amp'd posted a list of assets they were liquidating. At that point they went Chapter 7, complete liquidation of the company, because it turned into a monetary black hole. I did not hear of anyone taking over their customer base.