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Utopia Now Offering 1 Gbps for $65 a Month
by Karl Bode 09:47AM Tuesday Sep 17 2013
Last year Utah municipal broadband provider Utopia announced they were joining the 1 Gbps club, with the group's seven partner ISPs (Beehive Broadband, Brigham.net, InfoWest, SumoFiber, Veracity Networks, WebWave, and XMission) offering the tier for $300. One year later, and Utopia has announced a 78% price cut on their 1 Gbps offerings, with the symmetrical 1 Gbps service now running $65 a month.

"For not much more than most phone and cable companies charge for their basic 8 megabits per second service, our customers get speeds that are more than 100 times faster," Utopia COO Gary Jones said in a prepared statement. "With so many connected devices in every home, the average speed of 8 megabits just won’t get the job done anymore," he notes.

The announcement is clearly a response to Google Fiber's announcement back in April that they'd be expanding into Utah. Google Fiber acquired the iProvo network for all of $1 (though that price comes with significant debt and future build out obligations), and plans to begin offering their own symmetrical 1 Gbps, $70 there before the end of this year.

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elios

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Competition

amazing what what happens when companies have to compete to keep customers
should be used a model of all broadband in the US

JasonOD

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Re: Competition

Google won't be offering service in within their footprint, so this is an act of desperation. Good luck to their investors, this is yet another example why municipal provided anything is usually a bad idea.

mr sean
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Re: Competition

said by Anon80:

...this is yet another example why municipal provided anything is usually a bad idea.

Yeah, it's really awful when you can get seven individual business partners actively engaged in the model and up your customer satisfaction ranking at the same time.
What the hell were they thinking?

Oh and...since you missed the implications of this business model, perhaps I should note sarcasm is also implied in the statement above.
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Skippy25

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Says the Comcast guy.

Jerm

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Re: Competition

Exactly.

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dfxmatt

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I feel really, really sorry for you for working for comcast. To get paid to just troll DSLreports on 10-20 different accounts basically trashtalking anyone for saying they need more speed or saying that competition is bad for you?

how do you even sleep at night knowing you are literally single handedly driving an agenda which damages the entire economy?
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Re: Competition

Unfortunately I think it is worse than that... he does it for free.

elios

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as long as his stock pays out next Q he doest care just like every other investor
got to have that 400% return by the end of the year or dump every thing
tcope
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Plus fees

Monthly $70 fee plus Utopia fee which can be another $25/month for 20 years.

So that 1Gb line is really around $100/month with a 2 year contract.
TBBroadband

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Re: Plus fees

What's the fee for??? paying off the network?

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Re: Plus fees

who cares, 100 dollars for a 1/1 Gbps line? lol I pay 75 bucks a month for a 50/15 Mbps connection! Wish I lived in that area, I would get that in a heartbeat
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Re: Plus fees

said by MSauk:

who cares, 100 dollars for a 1/1 Gbps line? lol I pay 75 bucks a month for a 50/15 Mbps connection! Wish I lived in that area, I would get that in a heartbeat

While you may be able to make use of it, it's true that most people never will use close to those speeds for any real duration. I know we are streaming more and more (which is about the only way anyone would max out their connection) but 1000Mb/sec? I'd suspect that would support about 10 devices all streaming at the same time.

I mainly was pointing out that the fee is not really as low as claimed.
Skippy25

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Re: Plus fees

You mean 100 devices streaming at about 8mbps right?

Or did you mean 10 devices streaming at about 80mbps?
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Re: Plus fees

said by Skippy25:

You mean 100 devices streaming at about 8mbps right?

Or did you mean 10 devices streaming at about 80mbps?

I know I'm greatly reducing the amount of use but that is just to easily show that almost no one is going to need 1GB of bandwidth.

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said by tcope:

said by MSauk:

who cares, 100 dollars for a 1/1 Gbps line? lol I pay 75 bucks a month for a 50/15 Mbps connection! Wish I lived in that area, I would get that in a heartbeat

While you may be able to make use of it, it's true that most people never will use close to those speeds for any real duration. I know we are streaming more and more (which is about the only way anyone would max out their connection) but 1000Mb/sec? I'd suspect that would support about 10 devices all streaming at the same time.

I mainly was pointing out that the fee is not really as low as claimed.

Apologize for the crass reply I had, didn't mean it to be like that.

I know we are streaming more and more as a family and my kids are growing up and doing the same as well. I just know that getting a line like that is basically future proofing your household for the next 8 years or more it seems
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said by tcope:

While you may be able to make use of it, it's true that most people never will use close to those speeds for any real duration.

True... today.

said by tcope:

I know we are streaming more and more (which is about the only way anyone would max out their connection) but 1000Mb/sec?

My first 768/128k DSL connection in the 90s blew me away. So fast it almost melted the copper. Who'd need anything faster? Now my FIOS connection fails to satisfy.

Soon we'll stream 4000p HDTV, 3D full-immersion gaming, do videoconferencing using holograms, and other new tech that gobbles inconceivable amounts of bandwidth.

We'll tell our grandkids how we "only" had a Gig-E connection. My daughter can't even relate to what 56k dialup was like, yet I have fond memories of doing my programming assignments on the university's mainframe from my apartment using a dumb terminal and 150 baud acoustic coupler, then later, a Commodore with 300 baud modem.

Times change, and bandwidth needs grow exponentially.
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Re: Plus fees

No doubt about that but is their a point now in paying more for a speed not being used? That is the other part of the point. Some people can even currently benefit from 1GB. I'm just pointing out that most people many not need to pay this higher price for this speed as it sounds great, but it's like buying a car that will go 200mph and not being able to ever drive it faster then 100mph.
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Re: Plus fees

said by tcope:

No doubt about that but is their a point now in paying more for a speed not being used? That is the other part of the point. Some people can even currently benefit from 1GB. I'm just pointing out that most people many not need to pay this higher price for this speed as it sounds great, but it's like buying a car that will go 200mph and not being able to ever drive it faster then 100mph.

It may not sound like it, but we do agree.

However, if I could get a Gigabit pipe for $65-70 like some lucky folks already can, it would be the fastest seventy bucks I ever spent. I pay almost $60 now for a sad little 25/25 pipe.
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Re: Plus fees

No... I hear you and don't disagree. Even "slow" Internet cost most people around $45. The 1GB is more like $100, though. But it's now easier for people to get the other carriers to drop their prices now that we can argue that we can get 1GB for just a little more.
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Re: Plus fees

said by tcope:

No... I hear you and don't disagree. Even "slow" Internet cost most people around $45. The 1GB is more like $100, though. But it's now easier for people to get the other carriers to drop their prices now that we can argue that we can get 1GB for just a little more.

The sad part is FIOS is a two-edged sword. We have access to some killer speeds, but they cost a LOT and it's highly unlikely a disruptive muni-fiber build will ever happen here.

For the lucky folks in under-served markets seeing $70 gigabit muni-fiber on the horizon, the old expression "he who laughs last, laughs best" seems appropriate. Who would have thought, ISPs in dense urban metros being smoked by the little ISPs out in the sticks.

It's also ironic that the dominant incumbents that kill off the little guys in metro areas, wouldn't stand a chance against the little muni-fiber ISPs if they (the big guys) ever came to town.
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Re: Plus fees

said by rebus9:

Who would have thought, ISPs in dense urban metros being smoked by the little ISPs out in the sticks.

Whooo there.... where you callin' the "sticks"!???



Actually that is very ironic as I moved from Tampa (110th Ave S) to Salt Lake City about 7 years ago. Anytime you want to come up, I'll show you around.
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said by TBBroadband:

What's the fee for??? paying off the network?

More or less. Another option is to pay a $2700 flat fee.
Skippy25

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Do you have a link you can point us to as reference?
Skippy25

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Re: Plus fees

This should have been under your "More or less. Another option is to pay a $2700 flat fee." statement as I couldnt find anything on their site saying what the fee was.
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Utopia is not the ISP, they only provide the fiber (as I understand it). In order to obtain their service you then need to choose an ISP in your area that uses the Utopia line.

»www.utopianet.org/faq/

What does UTOPIA cost?

Currently, UTOPIA has four installation and infrastructure options for new residential subscribers:

Lease option: $30 a month for a two-year lease. After two years, your contract switches to month-to-month term.

CUE (Contract Utility Enhancement) option: The CUE option is a ownership-like model. With this option the UTOPIA connection is tied to the property and it is billed directly by the city. The benefits of signing up for a CUE is once the infrastructure commitment is met then you will only have to pay for the services.

%u2022$300 down and $30 a month for 10 years (6% interest rate).
%u2022No money down and $25 a month for 20 years (7.9% interest rate).
%u2022A $2,750 upfront charge.

*A CUE contract must be signed by the homeowner on record.
tmc8080

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Re: Plus fees

Or you can move into the Google owned geography.. and pay nothing when singing up for 1-year $ 70.

Bavarianbles

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EPB anyone?

Odd that they did this the same day as EPB in Chattanooga.

Freedom

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Wholesale rate

Does anyone have any idea as to the wholesale rate the ISP's are paying on the network to connect to the users ?