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(When they put one in place like everyone else has) | |
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 |  cdruGo ColtsPremium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
kudos:5
 ·Frontier FiOS
| Re: Caps R Fun This is for traffic on the backbone, not to individual subscribers. If anything, this goes to provide even more capacity to delay even the need for caps.
While the competition is complaining that they don't have enough capacity, that net neutrality is a bad thing as it will overburden their network, and finding ways to slow down or limit their customers, Verizon appears to be doing The Right Thing™. | |
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|  53059959Temp banned from BBR more then anyone
join:2002-10-02
PwnZone | peering Now if only someone will decide to peer with verizon. I rarely ever see my route travel over uunet these days. | |
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 baineschile2600 ways to livePremium
join:2008-05-10
Sterling Heights, MI | Wow I can hit Time Warners Cap in less than a second. Sweet! | |
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 DanTrailer Park SupervisorPremium
join:2002-12-17
Eh? | Backbone not consumer speeds. I think they are referring to backbone technology, not consumer products.
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| baineschile2600 ways to livePremium
join:2008-05-10
Sterling Heights, MI | Re: Backbone not consumer speeds. Youre right of course, its just fun to always bring up internet caps no matter what news is presented. | |
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| | | | Re: Backbone not consumer speeds. Everything will be capped even our salary you will see. | |
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join:2001-05-16
Pittsburgh, PA | Re: Backbone not consumer speeds. Except Taxes  | |
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| Pv8man
join:2008-07-24
Hammond, IN | LMAOROFCMP
laughing my ass off rolling on floor crapping my pants.
Good one "Dan"
you just made my day better | |
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JSM88
join:2000-12-20
Falls Church, VA | ah, the refreshing taste of no caps of course, unlike cable customers, Fios users have no caps, just a beautiful open field of untrammeled bandwidth - and somehow verizon's network has not come crashing to a halt, nor has their balance sheet. | |
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|  dennismurphyPut me on hold? I'll put YOU on holdPremium
join:2002-11-19
Parsippany, NJ | Re: ah, the refreshing taste of no caps I dunno ... my uncapped Optimum Online BOOST cable service seems to be a pretty beautiful field too.
Not *all* cable providers suck ... just most of 'em.  | |
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| | | For now.
Cable had no caps until recently.
Don't worry, caps are coming. Maybe not now, maybe not next year, but when Verizon corners the market, I'm willing to bet money that they'll start seeing the "value" of caps. | |
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| |  nixenRockin' the BoxenPremium
join:2002-10-04
Alexandria, VA | Re: ah, the refreshing taste of no caps said by fifty nine:For now. Cable had no caps until recently. Don't worry, caps are coming. Maybe not now, maybe not next year, but when Verizon corners the market, I'm willing to bet money that they'll start seeing the "value" of caps. Around here, cable has *always* had caps of one sort or another.
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| | cdruGo ColtsPremium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
kudos:5 Reviews:
·Frontier FiOS
| That's what they've always said even back in the DSL days. And we're still waiting. Apparently tomorrow or next year never gets here. | |
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| | | Celia
join:2001-12-05
Chicago, IL | Re: ah, the refreshing taste of no caps We live in today, the cap of verizon lives in tomorrow. so we kinda dont share the same day... | |
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| | | | | Back in the day, I had RoadRunner and RCN and there were no caps either. I kept hearing how "shared capacity isn't an issue."
Now it's become an issue and here come the caps.
Verizon has no caps now because they want to woo cable customers. When they don't have that need anymore, that's when the time for caps will be just right. | |
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| | | | cdruGo ColtsPremium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
kudos:5 Reviews:
·Frontier FiOS
| Re: ah, the refreshing taste of no caps said by fifty nine:Verizon has no caps now because they want to woo cable customers. When they don't have that need anymore, that's when the time for caps will be just right. Verizon has no caps now because they have no need for caps. They have plenty of capacity and are being proactive with keeping up with current and future demands.
There will always be churn with cable companies and other competitors. They will always be wooing customers to come over from cable. So by your logic, Verizon shouldn't ever have to implement caps then. | |
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| | JSM88
join:2000-12-20
Falls Church, VA | See - this is the very essence of Cable's thinking - that they can keep screwing with their customers and eventually Verizon will join them. The logic does not follow. Now if you were saying that eventually the cable folks will disappear and vz will own the market (and be able to institute caps due to the lack of market forces to the contrary - the cable infrastructure won't disappear - either they will lose so many customers (and video subscriptions as iptv takes over) that they will be bought out for the value of their infrastructure(discounted) by someone who knows how to compete for consumers $ or they will begin to compete themselves.
One thing that won't happen is VZ owning the market all to itself - we may appreciate their approach to broadband today, and may even reward it by showing preference to their model - but the ultimate outcome for them, at best, is owning a competitive, truly national, network (and the concomitant revenues), not a monopoly. | |
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join:2008-10-01
Mount Rainier, MD | fiostv only its only for fiostv cool! what about the internet! | |
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| | | Re: fiostv only Internet is a byproduct of FiOS. Verizon only got into FiOS because they want to sell TV. | |
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 SLDPremium
join:2002-04-17
San Francisco, CA | Pretty scary That they are bragging of implementing 100Gbps links is scary - most of the links are 10Gbps or less. When you consider that many datacenters have customers with a 1Gbps or 10Gbps link, one or two racks can saturate a link if the data flow is directed thus. | |
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| openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:1 | Re: Pretty scary said by SLD:When you consider that many datacenters have customers with a 1Gbps or 10Gbps link, one or two racks can saturate a link if the data flow is directed thus. Considering the datacenters aren't saturating backbones with existing 40 Gbps capacity, I don't think there will be too much of a problem with backbones upgraded to 100 Gbps. | |
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| | SLDPremium
join:2002-04-17
San Francisco, CA | Re: Pretty scary I'm just saying that they are woefully underlinked right now, and 100Gbps isn't that high for a backbone if it is heavily used for video or filesharing. One of my clients was spitting out 850Mbps last weekend all by himself, and his site is only in the top 8000. | |
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| | | openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:1 | Re: Pretty scary said by SLD:One of my clients was spitting out 850Mbps last weekend all by himself, and his site is only in the top 8000. I'm assuming that 850 Mbps was peak and also spread across multiple backbones. | |
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| | | | SLDPremium
join:2002-04-17
San Francisco, CA | Re: Pretty scary It held for quite a few hours, and over one provider, so possibly one backbone to a point. | |
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| | | | | said by SLD:I'm just saying that they are woefully underlinked right now, and 100Gbps isn't that high for a backbone if it is heavily used for video or filesharing. One of my clients was spitting out 850Mbps last weekend all by himself, and his site is only in the top 8000. They just wouldn't be using a single 100Gbps link for each backbone connection from site to site. They have DWDM, which means that can deploy 32, 40, or 80 100Gbps wavelengths on each leg. I imagine currently they are running several 40Gbps wavelengths per leg. Providers that are using 10Gbps backbone links have them bundled and are approaching 10x10 bundles. | |
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| cdruGo ColtsPremium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
kudos:5 | It's (relatively) easy to implement a 10Gbps link across a rack or datacenter. Find me a pair of datacenters that have a 100Gbps link several hundred miles apart and I'll be impressed. | |
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| nitzanPremium,VIP
join:2008-02-27
kudos:2 | said by SLD:That they are bragging of implementing 100Gbps links is scary - most of the links are 10Gbps or less. When you consider that many datacenters have customers with a 1Gbps or 10Gbps link, one or two racks can saturate a link if the data flow is directed thus. Hence cometh the logical conclusion- a data center that sells you a 10GBit port is obviously overselling their capacity. Overall I think it's much better for a data center to have 1000x 100Mbit racks than 10x 10Gbit racks. They'd still be overselling capacity either way, but with 100Mbit racks a few rogue machines won't bring the entire data center down. With 10Gbit racks it's enough for ONE to be taken over to seriously put a dent in your day. | |
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| | Where are all those chicken littles that predicted V*'s demise over the "risky" Fiber decision three years ago.
Still waiting.................... oh, no takers !!!! hmmmm
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xlimitx
join:2001-12-31
Wilkes Barre, PA | True QAM Whoa, they'll be able to offer even more channels in True QAM instead of False QAM! Weee! | |
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houghe9
join:2008-02-27
Lexington Park, MD | i love it!!! they are building brand loyalty. i think getting screwed over by low caps and poor customer service for years will make people jump ship immediately when they eventually get fios.
those i know that have it swear by it. whenever i get it i will remember the times with cable when they screwed with bit torrent* and, let the cable installer sleep on my couch. I will celebrate!!!!
*i dont use bit torrent but i will never forget!!! | |
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 tmh
@comcast.net | Botnets will really have some teeth at 100Gbps, DDoS attacks can really have an impact, even on the biggest targets. | |
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| | | Re: Hmm... Hmm, Fios has been deployed in the Tampa Bay area. Hillsbourough, Pinellas, Pasco, Polk, Manatee, and Sarasota counties. | |
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| | | Verizon's service area is around the Tampa Bay Area. Hillsborough, Pinellas, Pasco, Polk, Manatee, and sarasota Counties all have fios in them. | |
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 funchordsHelloPremium,MVM
join:2001-03-11
Yarmouth Port, MA
kudos:5 |  Simpsons' Did It?
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| | fios scmios Now if they would do something for us in the deteriorating copper areas, with no hope of fios within the next 20 years | |
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| | | Re: fios scmios They will do something for you....
Sell you to the highest bidder. | |
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